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Water won't freeze in Wisconsin- ice rink staying water with temps below zero. Ideas? | |
| ladulce Offer Upgrade  User ID: 49010236  United States12/23/2013 10:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 49720004 United States12/23/2013 10:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The ratio between water molecules and dissolved solids is upside down. The only way to correct it is to add phenyl alkalid triphosphate to the water in question. Using UV-filtered liquid oxygenated bio matter, the kind that is not expired works best, lightly spray the water with a fine mist. Problem solved. Good luck. |
| AuroraB User ID: 46640209 United States12/23/2013 10:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is regularly a solid pond- it freezes early and solid. The city puts a truck on it and sells tickets betting on when it will fall through the ice. So, it freezes solid... Quoting: ladulce However, this year... The ice rink at Traxler park in Janesville has city crews and neighbors confused -- it hasn't frozen all season. "When we're looking at it we don't know why it's not frozen," Paul Steinbauer said. Steinbauer works at Fastenal Hardware just across from the rink. He said usually, they can see 10 to 15 skaters on the ice from inside their store. Steinbauer said the not-so-icy rink didn't freeze during the last cold spell when temperatures dropped well below zero. "The whole cold week it didn't freeze and that's not normal for here," Steinbauer said. per: [link to rock.channel3000.com] Any ideas why? I'm from south of you, Loves Park, IL. We use to skate across from our house, so I know what you mean. It gets cold it freezes fast. I'm in TN now, water has been freezing here, so it's strange it's not there. The rink isn't bigger than normal? We've had tons of rain here and a lot more water in places which makes the water move more. Of course a lot of our water here wouldn't freeze solid, more water or not. |
| ladulce (OP) User ID: 49010236 United States12/23/2013 10:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is regularly a solid pond- it freezes early and solid. The city puts a truck on it and sells tickets betting on when it will fall through the ice. So, it freezes solid... Quoting: ladulce However, this year... The ice rink at Traxler park in Janesville has city crews and neighbors confused -- it hasn't frozen all season. "When we're looking at it we don't know why it's not frozen," Paul Steinbauer said. Steinbauer works at Fastenal Hardware just across from the rink. He said usually, they can see 10 to 15 skaters on the ice from inside their store. Steinbauer said the not-so-icy rink didn't freeze during the last cold spell when temperatures dropped well below zero. "The whole cold week it didn't freeze and that's not normal for here," Steinbauer said. per: [link to rock.channel3000.com] Any ideas why? I'm from south of you, Loves Park, IL. We use to skate across from our house, so I know what you mean. It gets cold it freezes fast. I'm in TN now, water has been freezing here, so it's strange it's not there. The rink isn't bigger than normal? We've had tons of rain here and a lot more water in places which makes the water move more. Of course a lot of our water here wouldn't freeze solid, more water or not. Hey! I was just shopping in Loves Park a few hours ago. Lol. No, it is the same (roughly) as always. I just found this odd, and, even more odd the newspaper quoting everyone as basically having no idea why it isn't freezing. As long as it isn't fuku-water, I guess we are all good, right? |
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| Windsage User ID: 40955476 United States12/23/2013 10:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone taken the temperature of the water? If it's BELOW 32F and still not frozen, you've got a whole different problem than if it is just not cold enough. Have they taken water samples for testing? Maybe someone has dumped a bunch of barrels of toxic something in there, people actually do that shit. Have you noticed any fish die offs or waterfowl problems? Is the water smelly or does it have an odd color? If the water is just not down to below 32F, there might be a geo-thermal event where the ground underneath has warmed up like at Yellowstone. Anyway, measure the temperature and that will at least be a start. |
| ladulce (OP) User ID: 49010236 United States12/23/2013 11:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone taken the temperature of the water? If it's BELOW 32F and still not frozen, you've got a whole different problem than if it is just not cold enough. Quoting: Windsage Have they taken water samples for testing? Maybe someone has dumped a bunch of barrels of toxic something in there, people actually do that shit. Have you noticed any fish die offs or waterfowl problems? Is the water smelly or does it have an odd color? If the water is just not down to below 32F, there might be a geo-thermal event where the ground underneath has warmed up like at Yellowstone. Anyway, measure the temperature and that will at least be a start. I will go poke around tomorrow. I walk around there fairly often, but, haven't been for the last several months and didn't notice any die-offs or anything odd over the summer/fall, but, we will go see if we find anything strange tomorrow. It will be a Glp inspired Christmas eve- hell yeah! |
| TastyThoughts User ID: 39561486 United States12/23/2013 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Particulating from particulations? lol or something below is heated in-turn heating the above. The mantle is pushing and heating the crust? "They cannot see what's-up if They are looking down." (TastyThoughts) "Something is smelly! Something is smelly, like an old barnacle encrusted shoe washing ashore in the middle of summer." (TastyThoughts) "Yes happy Earth day. Now go tell the wicked to stop damaging the Human Species therefore/and the Earth; For, they are discombobulating the entire Universe and upsetting the Most High God." (TastyThoughts) |
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| digitalmonkey User ID: 51898662 United States12/23/2013 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was thinking salt or heat from below. let us know if u figure it out I awoke to hear john 3:16 in a loud voice. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
| digitalmonkey User ID: 51898662 United States12/23/2013 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | sorry double post Last Edited by digitalmonkey on 12/23/2013 11:37 PM I awoke to hear john 3:16 in a loud voice. For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 315362 United States12/24/2013 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | pump out 2/3rds of the water, bring in a backhoe and dredge down about 2 feet to get any salt that precipitates out with the lower water level, refill with water that is not road salt laden. Should freeze right up. Less salt initially, and a larger volume to dilute any remaining salt. Oh and make sure they empty the radiators next time. |
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| beeches User ID: 28167778 United States12/24/2013 12:37 AM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone taken the temperature of the water? If it's BELOW 32F and still not frozen, you've got a whole different problem than if it is just not cold enough. Quoting: Windsage Have they taken water samples for testing? Maybe someone has dumped a bunch of barrels of toxic something in there, people actually do that shit. Have you noticed any fish die offs or waterfowl problems? Is the water smelly or does it have an odd color? If the water is just not down to below 32F, there might be a geo-thermal event where the ground underneath has warmed up like at Yellowstone. Anyway, measure the temperature and that will at least be a start. Wow, great idea. Especially with all the earth booms in Wisconsin - geothermal warmth under the pond? my own first thought was some kind of oil or other substance to act as antifreeze. we only have each other. And that makes us rich.. . . Wisdom in the man, patience in the wife, brings peace to the house and a happy life. |
| wisc_natureboy User ID: 51864958 United States12/24/2013 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | since there is about 1ft of ice on lakes already up here that is crazy that its not froze over, I immediately thought salt water? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29971029 First I thought.. cheese. Then I thought.. alcohol.. THEN I thought salt water.  Yeah, someone salted it as a prank. All is frozen here in Madison. Could also be a new spring feeding it? We all breathe the same air. .-.. --- ...- . / .- .-.. .-.. |
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| Nikola Tesla User ID: 51663264 United States12/24/2013 01:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Check the salt levels. Someone may have salted the water just to keep it from freezing. Look carefully at grumpy nearby neighbors. "One person with courage is a majority." - Thomas Jefferson "You’ve heard that we are what we eat. But we also are what we think". “Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." -William F. Buckley Jr. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1138982 United States12/24/2013 01:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | since there is about 1ft of ice on lakes already up here that is crazy that its not froze over, I immediately thought salt water? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29971029 First I thought.. cheese. Then I thought.. alcohol.. THEN I thought salt water. Yeah, someone salted it as a prank. All is frozen here in Madison. Could also be a new spring feeding it? lol a spring? You sure your not from Florida, Wisconsin boy? |
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| wisc_natureboy User ID: 51864958 United States12/24/2013 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | since there is about 1ft of ice on lakes already up here that is crazy that its not froze over, I immediately thought salt water? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 29971029 First I thought.. cheese. Then I thought.. alcohol.. THEN I thought salt water. Yeah, someone salted it as a prank. All is frozen here in Madison. Could also be a new spring feeding it? lol a spring? You sure your not from Florida, Wisconsin boy? Step 7 in accessing a survival zone: Know where current fresh water springs are, and where new ones likely exist (1-2 feet underground). We all breathe the same air. .-.. --- ...- . / .- .-.. .-.. |
| beeches User ID: 28167778 United States12/24/2013 01:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Particulating from particulations? lol Quoting: TastyThoughts or something below is heated in-turn heating the above. The mantle is pushing and heating the crust? I was thinking the same thing, that their might be an under ground heat source.  hope they figure it out. skating outdoors is the best.  we only have each other. And that makes us rich.. . . Wisdom in the man, patience in the wife, brings peace to the house and a happy life. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27068907 United States12/24/2013 01:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not familiar with where you are, but things are a little weird here, too. Long Island. Today, 2 days before Christmas, a caterpillar by the back door. Last week I walked out the back door into a spider spinning a web over the stoop. First week of December, a cricket chirping. We still have robins, who usually migrate out-a-here. We've had a couple of minor snow events already, yet still insects? Weird indeed. |
