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Courts Reviving Debtors' Prison For Overdue Fines And Fees!!! {With VIDEO On Court Costs}

 
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How can one pay their debt if they are locked up?

This scares me to death.
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blackcat It's to do with profit. Many states have privatized jails and a part of the deal is that they have to be (I think) 80% occupied, otherwise the state pays a penalty. The USA has the finest politicians that money can buy.
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too many pussies afraid of dying and THEY KNOW IT. face it assholes those in charge are calling you bitches and then treating you accordingly.
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too many pussies afraid of dying and THEY KNOW IT. face it assholes those in charge are calling you bitches and then treating you accordingly.
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If Muslims & their apologists really want to cure "Islamophobia," here is an easy way. Focus their indignation on Muslims committing violent acts in the name of Islam, not on non-Muslims reporting on those acts.
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Islam is not a race - the racism rant is lame, used by the intellectually lazy to derail the debate.

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the cost of obamacare, the eventual price increase of utilities from smart meters, being charged by the mile we drive, etc... we will all be there soon. not enough prison space, better build some FEMA detention centers.
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This is literally unconstitutional, not that a piece of paper ever stopped tyrants from doing what they wish.
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The way the get around the law, Ie outlawing debtors prison, is to charge them with contempt of court for not following a court order. Little do people know that they can challenge the contempt charge. The courts can not hold you contempt for something that you can not possible do. But not many know this.
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Thank you for this info.
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the cost of obamacare, the eventual price increase of utilities from smart meters, being charged by the mile we drive, etc... we will all be there soon. not enough prison space, better build some FEMA detention centers.
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This is what is worrying me so much. Everything is coming down on us to create the "perfect storm."
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I can barely afford rent.
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We can barely afford to live...sigh.

I love your avatar...it makes me smile.
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How can one pay their debt if they are locked up?

This scares me to death.
 Quoting: Krystal


It's what they can "fine" you with too that is just amazing. The process to fight is absurd.

I never understood at all how locking someone up for a debt could be productive. Well unless you wanted to thin the herd so to speak.
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How can one pay their debt if they are locked up?

This scares me to death.
 Quoting: Krystal


It's what they can "fine" you with too that is just amazing. The process to fight is absurd.

I never understood at all how locking someone up for a debt could be productive. Well unless you wanted to thin the herd so to speak.
 Quoting: amachiavellian


I know.
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Interesting...Yet another way to scare/Control/mentally damage the poor...What is next...Cutting off a pound of flesh to appease the rich?
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Interesting...Yet another way to scare/Control/mentally damage the poor...What is next...Cutting off a pound of flesh to appease the rich?
 Quoting: Settle4It

Exactly, Settle...it really worries me.
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Local courts are reviving debtors' prison for overdue fines and fees...even in minor traffic infractions.

Courts across the US are putting those in jail who cannot pay their court costs and fees.

As I am writing this, I cannot believe it is happening.

When one gets caught up in the justice system there is no end to the fees...fees for this...fees for that.

I honestly do not know what people are going to do.___________________________________________________

FROM ARTICLE:

As if out of a Charles Dickens novel, people struggling to pay overdue fines and fees associated with court costs for even the simplest traffic infractions are being thrown in jail across the United States.


Critics are calling the practice the new "debtors' prison" -- referring to the jails that flourished in the U.S. and Western Europe over 150 years ago. Before the time of bankruptcy laws and social safety nets, poor folks and ruined business owners were locked up until their debts were paid off.

Reforms eventually outlawed the practice. But groups like the Brennan Center for Justice and the American Civil Liberties Union say it's been reborn in local courts which may not be aware it's against the law to send indigent people to jail over unpaid fines and fees -- or they just haven't been called on it until now.

Advocates are trying to convince courts that aside from the legal questions surrounding the practice, it is disproportionately jailing poor people and doesn't even boost government revenues -- in fact, governments lose money in the process.

"It's a waste of taxpayer resources, and it undermines the integrity of the justice system," Carl Takei, staff attorney for the ACLU's National Prison Project, told FoxNews.com.
 Quoting: Krystal


In one of these GLP threads, I read something in someone's signature that stated something like, "Gold is the currency of kings, silver is the currency of gentlemen, barter is the currency of peasants and dept is the currency of slaves". Sounds about right, guess what US?
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[link to www.foxnews.com]

Local courts are reviving debtors' prison for overdue fines and fees...even in minor traffic infractions.

Courts across the US are putting those in jail who cannot pay their court costs and fees.

As I am writing this, I cannot believe it is happening.

When one gets caught up in the justice system there is no end to the fees...fees for this...fees for that.

I honestly do not know what people are going to do.___________________________________________________

FROM ARTICLE:

As if out of a Charles Dickens novel, people struggling to pay overdue fines and fees associated with court costs for even the simplest traffic infractions are being thrown in jail across the United States.


Critics are calling the practice the new "debtors' prison" -- referring to the jails that flourished in the U.S. and Western Europe over 150 years ago. Before the time of bankruptcy laws and social safety nets, poor folks and ruined business owners were locked up until their debts were paid off.

Reforms eventually outlawed the practice. But groups like the Brennan Center for Justice and the American Civil Liberties Union say it's been reborn in local courts which may not be aware it's against the law to send indigent people to jail over unpaid fines and fees -- or they just haven't been called on it until now.

Advocates are trying to convince courts that aside from the legal questions surrounding the practice, it is disproportionately jailing poor people and doesn't even boost government revenues -- in fact, governments lose money in the process.

"It's a waste of taxpayer resources, and it undermines the integrity of the justice system," Carl Takei, staff attorney for the ACLU's National Prison Project, told FoxNews.com.
 Quoting: Krystal


In one of these GLP threads, I read something in someone's signature that stated something like, "Gold is the currency of kings, silver is the currency of gentlemen, barter is the currency of peasants and dept is the currency of slaves". Sounds about right, guess what US?
 Quoting: BrainJuice


Yep, that sounds about right...I hate life.
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Umm, increasing debt with fines?
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Several years ago, I got a ticket for speeding. I attempted to fight it, and was pushed into a payment plan I could not afford. I had never had a ticket in my life. I explained I could not afford it, but they did not seem to care. They told me they would send me a letter for a court date.

I waited, and waited and it never came. I figured they took sympathy on me and waived my fine.

Years later, I got another ticket for going three miles over the limit. The ticket was two hundred dollars, once that ticket went through I got a letter notifying me of my unpaid fine which had climbed from 200.00 to 600.00. I was told I had a warrant, and if I did not pay or make an arrangement by a certain day I would be placed in jail.

I've never committed a crime, and until I moved here ( Arlington, Tx) gotten a ticket. I went to the court house the next day and stood in line for two hours to "make arrangements". As I did, I was educated. This is common place, they add crazy fines to old tickets over years, and then threaten jail if unpaid.

I was able to arrange a payment plan. They did not ask me what I could afford, instead told me I needed to pay 133.33 for six months. Because I neeeded a payment plan, a "service fee'" of 200.00 had been added. Luckily, my ex gave me his credit card, or I would have been screwed. I had to pay that before I left or my warrant would be enforceable. If I missed one payment they would "pick me up". For six months, I lived in fear, and struggled to make the payment. I went without lunch every day, often had no money for gas to get to work, but they got paid.

Now I live in fear of getting a ticket here. It's incredible how they can get away with turning two tickets that were 200.00 each into 1000. worth of debt. I was treated like I was a loser. They did not care that I was a single parent who was struggling to make ends meet. At all.
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Umm, increasing debt with fines?
 Quoting: Harbinger Of Truth


Several years ago, I got a ticket for speeding. I attempted to fight it, and was pushed into a payment plan I could not afford. I had never had a ticket in my life. I explained I could not afford it, but they did not seem to care. They told me they would send me a letter for a court date.

I waited, and waited and it never came. I figured they took sympathy on me and waived my fine.

Years later, I got another ticket for going three miles over the limit. The ticket was two hundred dollars, once that ticket went through I got a letter notifying me of my unpaid fine which had climbed from 200.00 to 600.00. I was told I had a warrant, and if I did not pay or make an arrangement by a certain day I would be placed in jail.

I've never committed a crime, and until I moved here ( Arlington, Tx) gotten a ticket. I went to the court house the next day and stood in line for two hours to "make arrangements". As I did, I was educated. This is common place, they add crazy fines to old tickets over years, and then threaten jail if unpaid.

I was able to arrange a payment plan. They did not ask me what I could afford, instead told me I needed to pay 133.33 for six months. Because I neeeded a payment plan, a "service fee'" of 200.00 had been added. Luckily, my ex gave me his credit card, or I would have been screwed. I had to pay that before I left or my warrant would be enforceable. If I missed one payment they would "pick me up". For six months, I lived in fear, and struggled to make the payment. I went without lunch every day, often had no money for gas to get to work, but they got paid.

Now I live in fear of getting a ticket here. It's incredible how they can get away with turning two tickets that were 200.00 each into 1000. worth of debt. I was treated like I was a loser. They did not care that I was a single parent who was struggling to make ends meet. At all.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51961980


This is the story I am so afraid of. It could happen to any of us.

Once you get in the system, the system can take you and eat you alive.
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the war on deadbeats is going to replace the war on drugs