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UPDATE: Time to say screw it --> "There is now about 22 km of ice between the ship and open water."!!!

 
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I'll bet they come back with some really good penguin recipes (BBQ penguin, pan-fried, smoked, etc.).
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Re: UPDATE: Time to say screw it --> "There is now about 22 km of ice between the ship and open water."!!!
I cant find where it says that all four ships are trapped...Russian, French Chinese and Australian...as far as I can tell only the Russian ship is trapped.

The Chinese ship was able to get about 7 miles away from them but was forced to turn back the other ships are still at least two days away
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It seems to be a planned event to keep our minds off the 60 degree December days.

They'll probably let the poor guys die just to spread the message.

If we say it's cold it's cold. That thermometer is a lie. Your trees blooming in Feb is a Lie.
**I'm all out of bubblegum
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Summers during Al Gore's global warming can be brutal.

It's summer time in Antarctica.

verycold
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ROFLMFAO!!!!

This is exactly what *I* was thinking!!!
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It seems to be a planned event to keep our minds off the 60 degree December days.

They'll probably let the poor guys die just to spread the message.

If we say it's cold it's cold. That thermometer is a lie. Your trees blooming in Feb is a Lie.
 Quoting: Lemon


So a pole shift HASN'T occurred?!?!

Sure seems to me that the weather around the globe is fucked up.....

Too warm for winter in the northern hemisphere....too cold for summer in the southern hemisphere.

Hmmmmm
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The best part is that these people are global warming idiots and they were going there to document the environmental changes taking place down there.

[link to weaselzippers.us]

"The expedition is being led by Chris Turney, “climate scientist”, who has “set up a carbon refining company called Carbonscape which has developed technology to fix carbon from the atmosphere and make a host of green bi-products, helping reduce greenhouse gas levels.” The purpose of the expedition is “to discover and communicate the environmental changes taking place in the south.”

The metaphor just couldn’t be more fitting: desperate true believers of global warming/accelerating polar ice melt now find themselves trapped by thousands of square kilometers of summertime sea ice that wasn’t supposed to be there.

:f yeah:
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Okay, so this situation is in the ANTARCTIC, but the subject line of the OP says ARCTIC, and other posters in the thread are confusing the two . . .

How can things so basic and so significant as the ANTARCTIC and the ARCTIC get confused, it's making me mental.

Look this action is all happening in the

SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE

near the SOUTH POLE

by ANTARCTICA

Not at the other end of the globe grrrrrrr.

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Re: UPDATE: Time to say screw it --> "There is now about 22 km of ice between the ship and open water."!!!
they found COAL down there.

think about it, coal comes from DEAD TREES!!!

that means Antarctica used to be HEAVILY FORESTED!!!!!
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I thought coal came from dead FOSSILS....as in dinosaurs, mastodons, etc.
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Re: UPDATE: Time to say screw it --> "There is now about 22 km of ice between the ship and open water."!!!
If the boat is that badly stuck, it is not going anywhere. Even wooden ships such as that of Shackleton, lasted weeks before it finally broke up.

Another "Bread and Circus'" non story to distract us from the disasterious economy and state of the world generally.

The can easily rescue the stupid tourists and so-say scientists by helicopter. The question is, who's gonna pay?
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thread titles here are like the end result in a game of chinese whispers

those who read them get traped.
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The best part is that these people are global warming idiots and they were going there to document the environmental changes taking place down there.

[link to weaselzippers.us]

"The expedition is being led by Chris Turney, “climate scientist”, who has “set up a carbon refining company called Carbonscape which has developed technology to fix carbon from the atmosphere and make a host of green bi-products, helping reduce greenhouse gas levels.” The purpose of the expedition is “to discover and communicate the environmental changes taking place in the south.”

The metaphor just couldn’t be more fitting: desperate true believers of global warming/accelerating polar ice melt now find themselves trapped by thousands of square kilometers of summertime sea ice that wasn’t supposed to be there.

:f yeah:
 Quoting: Paige


Sweet! That's just too precious for words, haha. In that case I hope they get to stay there awhile.

Can't they use windmills or solar panels to melt the ice? How about HAARP? Never mind....too many carbon credits.

Maybe Al Gore & company can send some hot air down that way.


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SLAM THAT CLAM
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What happened to all that global warming?
 Quoting: JasmineinNM


global worming? it does not occur worldwide and if, only in summertime, don't you know it jet?
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I was making a joke
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A Russian ship, called the Akademik Shokalskiy, is stuck in ice off the coast of Antarctica, the Australian Maritime Safety Authority (AMSA) reports. The research boat, which was on its way toward Mawson’s Hut at Cape Denison, Antarctica, is carrying 74 people.

Given its location approximately 1,500 nautical miles (about 1,725 miles) south of Hobart, Australia, the boat falls under the purview of the Australian Search and Rescue region, according to the AMSA release.

Chris Turney, one of the leaders of this Australasian Antarctic Expedition, has been tweeting about the incident. (He also made the video above.) “Stuck in ice. All well. Relief expt’d 30 hrs. Science continuing,” he wrote around 6 a.m. Eastern time. A few hours later: “We’re in the ice like the explorers of old! All are well and spirits are high. Happy Christmas from the AAE.” Finally, this: “Heavy ice but all well — windy!” with the hashtag #spiritofmawson of the trip.

As of 3 p.m. Eastern, three rescue vessels were en route to help the stranded ship. However, the AMSA reported that the nearest were two full days away. Turney had something slightly different to report, with his latest tweet around 3:20 p.m. Eastern. “Shokalskiy met heavy ice Xmas Eve. Want to reassure family & friends all well. Chinese ice breaker expt’d 24 hrs.”

<<<snipped text>>>
 Quoting: Luisport



ARTICLE:
[link to www.weather.com]

A ship that has been trapped in thick Antarctic ice since Christmas Eve was nearing rescue on Friday, after a Chinese icebreaker named the Snow Dragon drew close to the icebound vessel.

The Russian ship MV Akademik Shokalskiy, which has been on a research expedition to Antarctica, got stuck Tuesday after a blizzard's whipping winds pushed the sea ice around the ship, freezing it in place. The ship wasn't in danger of sinking.

Maritime authorities received the ship's distress signal on Wednesday and sent three icebreakers to assist. By Friday afternoon, China's Snow Dragon had made it as far as the edge of the sea ice surrounding the ship, 12 miles away, but still faced the tough task of getting through the dense pack ice to the paralyzed vessel.

The Snow Dragon was hoping to reach the ship by Friday evening, but changing weather conditions and the thickness of the ice could slow its progress, said Andrea Hayward-Maher, spokeswoman for the Australian Maritime Safety Authority, which is coordinating the rescue.

Turney said it may take the Snow Dragon until Saturday to break through.

The scientific team on board the vessel - which left New Zealand on Nov. 28 - had been recreating Australian explorer Douglas Mawson's century-old voyage to Antarctica when it became trapped. They plan to continue their expedition after they are freed, Turney said.

Despite the interruption to the expedition, the scientists have continued their research while stuck, counting birds in the area and drilling through the ice surrounding the ship to photograph sea life.



WHAT MAWSON FOUND,
AND WHAT THE RUSKIES AND CHIN COULD BE AFTER NOW:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

As the expedition commander Douglas Mawson was himself a geologist, the examination of the accessible (i.e., not covered by ice) rock formations of Wilkes Land was a key feature of the expedition.
The expedition is noted for having achieved the first discovery of a meteorite, a chondrite, 30 km west of Cape Denison.[6] Over the following century a trove of meteorites have been discovered in this region of Antarctica.



MAWSON'S HUTS:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

"Mawson's Huts" are the collection of buildings located at Cape Denison, Commonwealth Bay, in the far eastern sector of the Australian Antarctic Territory, some 3000 km south of Hobart. The buildings were erected and occupied by the Australasian Antarctic Expedition (AAE) of 1911-1914, led by geologist and explorer Sir Douglas Mawson.
The huts included a magnetograph hut, used to measure variations in the south magnetic pole; an absolute magnetic hut, which was used as a reference point for studies in the magnetograph hut; and the transit hut, an astronomical observatory.

Using a wireless relay station on Macquarie Island, it was possible to contact the Australian mainland by radio. The AAE was the first expedition that had this possibility. Meteorological observations got transmitted by the system continuously. It was the first use of radio on the Antarctic continent.



CHONDRITE METEORITE:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Chondrites are stony (non-metallic) meteorites that have not been modified due to melting or differentiation of the parent body.[3][4] They are formed when various types of dust and small grains that were present in the early solar system accreted to form primitive asteroids.
Their study provides important clues for understanding the origin and age of the Solar System, the synthesis of organic compounds, the origin of life or the presence of water on Earth.
Chondrites can be differentiated from iron meteorites due to their low iron and nickel content. Other non-metallic meteorites, achondrites, which lack chondrules, were formed more recently.

Chondrites were formed by the accretion of particles of dust and grit present in the primitive Solar System which gave rise to asteroids over 4,550 billion years ago.
Another indication of their age is the fact that the abundance of non-volatile elements in chondrites is similar to that found in the atmosphere of the Sun and other stars in our galaxy.
Many chondritic asteroids also contained significant amounts of water, possibly due to the accretion of ice along with rocky material. As a result, many chondrites contain hydrous minerals, such as clays, that formed when the water interacted with the rock on the asteroid in a process known as aqueous alteration.

Enstatite chondrites (also known as E-type chondrites) are a rare form of meteorite thought to comprise only about 2% of the chondrites that fall to Earth.[21] Only about 200 E-Type chondrites are currently known.[21] The majority of estatite chondrites have either been recovered in Antarctica



So this research vessel and team could be studying METEORITES [Enstatite chondrites/E-type chondrites [link to en.wikipedia.org] ] , VARIATIONS IN MAGNETIC POLE, and ASTRONOMICAL OBSERVATION RESEARCH ...

It intrigues me that the Chinese were there sooner to rescue with a vessel named SNOW DRAGON ...



This sounds Bezerk !!!


xxxK
 Quoting: Krispy71


The thread's name has changed according to an UPDATE...

We bezerkers gonna love this !!
Watch this :
[link to www.fark.com]

As it now seems the Chinese vessel Snow-Dragon has been captured by the ice also and is stuck position.
They are waiting for a FRENCH VESSEL to come to the rescue with the designation ASTROLABE ...

ASTRO - LAB - E !!!!!!

Seriously ???
The Russian vessel was out for an expedition to research METEORITES [Special Rare Ones!!]
And now the French are expected to arrive with their Astro-Lab-E ???!!!!!


snip from article:
The Chinese icebreaker Xue Long, or Snow Dragon, was just six nautical miles away from the rescue, but now it's stuck in an Antarctica ice floe, too.

The Chinese crew is hoping a French icebreaker 14 nautical miles away will arrive and offer relief, said Zhu Li, chief officer of the Chinese ship.

But it's likely the French vessel Astrolabe will also be slowed by the polar cap's extreme frigidity, Zhu said.


I know an astrolabe is a tool
But its etymology is verrrrry interesting and reveals a hidden meaning and code that links with the purpose of the Russian vessel !!!


Etymology of astrolabe
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
OED gives the translation "star-taker" for the English word "astrolabe" and traces it, through medieval Latin, to the Greek word astrolabos from astron "star" and lambanein "to take". In the medieval Islamic world the word "asturlab" (i.e. astrolabe) was given various etymologies. In Arabic texts the word is translated as "akhdh al-kawakib" (lit. "taking the stars") which corresponds to an interpretation of the Greek word. Al-Biruni quotes and criticizes the medieval scientist Hamzah al-Isfahani (de) who had stated: "asturlab is an arabization of this Persian phrase" (sitara yab, meaning "taker of the stars"). In medieval Islamic sources there is also a "fictional" and popular etymology of the words as "lines of lab". In this popular etymology "Lab" is a certain son of Idris (=Enoch). This etymology is mentioned by a 10th-century scientist called al-Qummi but rejected by al-Khwarizmi. "Lab" in Arabic also means "sun" and "black stony places" (cf. Dictionary).

Really !!????
Taker-of-stars = taker-of-meteorites !!!!!

But the second "fictional" meaning is also very interesting !!!
THE LINES OF ENOCH !!!
Thus about DNA and gene-lines !!!!

It also intrigues me that "LAB" is also SUN and BLACK STONY PLACES !!!

And isnt it intriguing that this expedition is planned right now, now that ISON has passed once and will pass a second time ?????

The Sow-Dragon was really in a hurry to reach the Russian research-vessel FIRST !!!
Snip from article:
The Aurora Australis out of Australia is two days from the Russian ship, its captain, Murray Doyle, told CNN on Friday.
China's State Oceanic Administration said the Xue Long sailed through an intense cyclone to reach the Akademik Shokalskiy sooner.



Could it be that China has invested in or interests in that Russian expedition ? And now the ODESSA-aligned French want to have a look and a grain of the "pot-with-gold" too ....
????

... rare meteorites [start-of-Universe material] ...
... DNA ...
... Gene-lines [Enoch = Annunaki !!!!!!] ...

* Enoch, son of Jared, Son of Mahalaleel, son of Cainan, son of Enos, Son of Seth, son of Adam the first "formed" man [by Annunaki scientists] *

** To me ODESSA is also Annunaki-aligned **
** Chinese are a different alien-breed **



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they found COAL down there.

think about it, coal comes from DEAD TREES!!!

that means Antarctica used to be HEAVILY FORESTED!!!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51990793


I thought coal came from dead FOSSILS....as in dinosaurs, mastodons, etc.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47104454


Then you'd be wrong.

Coal is carbon that was in the atmosphere long ago and locked up in vegetation.
That means it was once in the air, and that time was when the earth was at its most verdant and giants ruled the lands with huge plants and animals.

That's what AlGore is afraid will happen.

Nowadays controling carbon is used to control food production for the masses, that may allow them to survive the intended extermination.
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rofl

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Okay, so this situation is in the ANTARCTIC, but the subject line of the OP says ARCTIC, and other posters in the thread are confusing the two . . .

How can things so basic and so significant as the ANTARCTIC and the ARCTIC get confused, it's making me mental.

Look this action is all happening in the

SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE

near the SOUTH POLE

by ANTARCTICA

Not at the other end of the globe grrrrrrr.
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The title of thread with "Artic" : sure really great joke of OP , he tests all who write here hf
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If the boat is that badly stuck, it is not going anywhere. Even wooden ships such as that of Shackleton, lasted weeks before it finally broke up.

Another "Bread and Circus'" non story to distract us from the disasterious economy and state of the world generally.

The can easily rescue the stupid tourists and so-say scientists by helicopter. The question is, who's gonna pay?
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IF you read the main article the ship is 1500miles too far away from any air base that could send rescuers. So it has to be done by ship. Or maybe even submarine
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Maybe they can bring in a giant u boat and put some amps through the front end and melt a way through or something arcane

or just send some ops teams on the ice with 10 snow scooters packed with c4 charges and drill 5 hundred holes and just blow a giant crack open

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If the boat is that badly stuck, it is not going anywhere. Even wooden ships such as that of Shackleton, lasted weeks before it finally broke up.

Another "Bread and Circus'" non story to distract us from the disasterious economy and state of the world generally.

The can easily rescue the stupid tourists and so-say scientists by helicopter. The question is, who's gonna pay?
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vessel's captain very experienced in ice cruises in arctic and antarctic seas. he knows what he make and sure he's well controlling situation
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Summertime? Didnt they just record the coldest temp recently down there at -138F
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they have to bomb the ice and use HUGE quantities of explosives to win over the evil ice!
explosionexplosionexplosionexplosionexplosionexplosionexplosionexplosionexplosionexplosion

And they have to document it all and upload the video footage on youtube and vimeo ofcause

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Summertime? Didnt they just record the coldest temp recently down there at -138F
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Near Vostok ...


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Very interresting Isis,
thank you hf

... near Vostok eh ...


xxxK
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xxxK
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This has been a rediculous news story.
Rescue my ass.
These guys haven't even run out of good booze yet.
They have heat and fresh sheets.
F them
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Does Australia have a helicopter carrier?
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Yes. HMAS Canberra, LHD 02. Should be commissioned in 2014. Can they stay stuck until then? If they can stay stuck until 2015, we'll have two of them and HMAS Adelaide LHD 01 can help!

They ain't ice breakers but!


"The Canberra Class Amphibious Assault Ship (LHD), also known as a Landing Helicopter Dock, project will provide the Australian Defence Force with one of the most capable and sophisticated air-land-sea amphibious deployment systems in the world.

These 27,000 tonne ships will be able to land a force of over 2,000 personnel by helicopter and water craft, along with all their weapons, ammunition, vehicles and stores.

The first LHD, named HMAS Canberra, is due to be commissioned in the first quarter of 2014 and the second ship, HMAS Adelaide, is planned to commission in 2015."

[link to www.navy.gov.au]

[link to www.hmascanberra.com]

[link to www.naval-technology.com]
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Okay, so this situation is in the ANTARCTIC, but the subject line of the OP says ARCTIC, and other posters in the thread are confusing the two . . .

How can things so basic and so significant as the ANTARCTIC and the ARCTIC get confused, it's making me mental.

Look this action is all happening in the

SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE

near the SOUTH POLE

by ANTARCTICA

Not at the other end of the globe grrrrrrr.
 Quoting: Vision Thing



You're absolutely right, VT!!

It's stupefying that people don't know the difference between the Arctic (Northern Hemisphere) and Antarctica (Southern Hemisphere).
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...


scratching
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That's right.
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CELCIUS is the same as FAHRENHEIT ?

whatever
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no it's obviously a mistake
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At -40 it is the same.
Out of the pan into the Fire.
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These guys haven't even run out of good booze yet.
They have heat and fresh sheets.
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yes, for four-six weeks. but unfortunately now no one can say for sure whether they will have help for this time or not - the nature of the Antarctic often is very severe
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The title of thread with "Artic" : sure really great joke of OP , he tests all who write here hf
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Okay, so this situation is in the ANTARCTIC, but the subject line of the OP says ARCTIC, and other posters in the thread are confusing the two . . .

How can things so basic and so significant as the ANTARCTIC and the ARCTIC get confused, it's making me mental.

Look this action is all happening in the

SOUTHERN HEMISPHERE

near the SOUTH POLE

by ANTARCTICA

Not at the other end of the globe grrrrrrr.
 Quoting: Vision Thing



You're absolutely right, VT!!

It's stupefying that people don't know the difference between the Arctic (Northern Hemisphere) and Antarctica (Southern Hemisphere).
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you coped the test successfully rofl
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i can see them being stuck for quite some time, especially if the weather worsens./





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