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UPDATE: Time to say screw it --> "There is now about 22 km of ice between the ship and open water."!!!

 
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RAMMING SPEED!


After more than 11 hours of ramming thick sea ice to rescue the stranded Akademik Shokalskiy, Chinese ice-breaker Xue Long has retreated to open water, leaving the rescue operation to Australian ice-breaker Aurora Australis.

Aurora captain Murray Doyle said it was always possible the ice would be too thick for the Xue Long.

''We were always option B,'' he said. ''We were always going to be sent on until the end.''

Reports from the Chinese ice-breaker and the Akademik Shokalskiy say pack ice in the area is 10/10ths, which means the vessel is surrounded, and some ice floes are between three and four metres thick.

The Aurora could comfortably slice through ice up to 1.35 metres thick, and crash through thicker slabs by reversing and ramming.[/b[

But Mr Doyle was unsure how the ice-breaker would handle ice thicker than three metres. ''It's not what we're built for,'' he said.

[link to www.smh.com.au]
 Quoting: sea capn dread brian moran 51990793


why does china have an ice breaker there?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 32953012


They too, were trying to get the ship free.
....but the ice is over 10ft thick now....no chance of that.

Apparently they are staying now too in open water because they have a helicopter on board to rescue the people.
Kiss that ship BUH BYE though.
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that is a long way from china

2-5000 miles
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It was already in the area.
It's an ICEBREAKER....that's what they do...BREAK ICE.

Wouldn't be much good in MIAMI now would it? thwak
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Prob best for Antarctic ice-stranded ship(s) to wait for calvary to arrive: United States super - breaker Polar Star [link to m.nbcnews.com] …
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Time to say screw it --> "There is now about 22 km of ice between the ship and open water." [link to www.smh.com.au] …
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Added that Southern Ocean region to GFS weather maps here: [link to models.weatherbell.com] … click on Australia and then Watt Bay option


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Frozen Antarctic vessel has pesky low pressure problems -- always stormy in circumpolar trough (due S of Tasmania) [link to twitter.com (secure)]
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Stranded Antarctic research (pleasure cruise) ship voyage was bungled to begin with ... says NY Times. (@dotearth) [link to dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com] …
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RAMMING SPEED!


After more than 11 hours of ramming thick sea ice to rescue the stranded Akademik Shokalskiy, Chinese ice-breaker Xue Long has retreated to open water, leaving the rescue operation to Australian ice-breaker Aurora Australis.

Aurora captain Murray Doyle said it was always possible the ice would be too thick for the Xue Long.

''We were always option B,'' he said. ''We were always going to be sent on until the end.''

Reports from the Chinese ice-breaker and the Akademik Shokalskiy say pack ice in the area is 10/10ths, which means the vessel is surrounded, and some ice floes are between three and four metres thick.

The Aurora could comfortably slice through ice up to 1.35 metres thick, and crash through thicker slabs by reversing and ramming.[/b[

But Mr Doyle was unsure how the ice-breaker would handle ice thicker than three metres. ''It's not what we're built for,'' he said.

[link to www.smh.com.au]
 Quoting: sea capn dread brian moran 51990793


why does china have an ice breaker there?
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They have some floating laundromats down there that get stuck in the ice, from time to time.
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this is an amazing story. Wow and wow and wow.

sometimes you just gotta wait - for the nails in the AGW coffin to be pounded in with a 50 pound hammer.
You don't have to be an American to treasure freedom, but it sure does help !
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Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 13 h
Added that Southern Ocean region to GFS weather maps here: [link to models.weatherbell.com] … click on Australia and then Watt Bay option


Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 13 h
Frozen Antarctic vessel has pesky low pressure problems -- always stormy in circumpolar trough (due S of Tasmania) [link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Luisport


stormy conditions for nipped by floes vessel usually is not the worst option, but in most cases quite the opposite: such conditions can crack the ice fields, and the ship will be able to move. in history of antarctic and arctic researches a lot examples precisely such developments...
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Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 3 min
Stranded Antarctic research (pleasure cruise) ship voyage was bungled to begin with ... says NY Times. (@dotearth) [link to dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com] …
 Quoting: Luisport


that it is important to understand: that in such research cruises captain and crew are required to comply the orders of the expedition's sciense chief (in this case australian's chief ) where and how to follow the ship. captain may refuse to execute the order only if it is sure that there is an obvious and pronounced threat for vessel life. sciense chief , in turn, should understand very well to which ice conditions he " pushes " the ship and whether the risks are justified or at least should be in the expedition of a good specialist in ice conditions .
judging by the horrible conditions in which the vessel , neither one nor the other sciense chief of the expedition was not ensured ...
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Here is the leader of the expedition, Chris Turney:

Turney told the Australian Broadcasting Corp. that his goal is to excite the public about science. As for climate change, "in the scientific community, it's remarkably solid." And "self-evident."

[link to www.realclearpolitics.com]

Well - if AGW evidence is so "rock solid," what are you stuck in now, Mr. Turney?
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The Chinese helicopter has arrived the Shokalskiy. It's 100% we're off! A huge thanks to all

Preston Phillips @10NewsPhillips 4 h
@ProfChrisTurney - Finally!! So happy for you guys!
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Stranded Antarctic research (pleasure cruise) ship voyage was bungled to begin with ... says NY Times. (@dotearth) [link to dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com] …
 Quoting: Luisport


that it is important to understand: that in such research cruises captain and crew are required to comply the orders of the expedition's sciense chief (in this case australian's chief ) where and how to follow the ship. captain may refuse to execute the order only if it is sure that there is an obvious and pronounced threat for vessel life. sciense chief , in turn, should understand very well to which ice conditions he " pushes " the ship and whether the risks are justified or at least should be in the expedition of a good specialist in ice conditions .
judging by the horrible conditions in which the vessel , neither one nor the other sciense chief of the expedition was not ensured ...
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[link to www.newsru.com]
google translation
...Captain "Academica Shokalski " so said the refusal to evacuate the crew : " The ship is not in danger , it is in normal operation , but we were on the ice ." " We hope for a change of wind, which will allow us to try to get out on their own. And hopefully that will help us get an American icebreaker Polar Star, which will cope with our ice- hundred percent ," - said the captain .

John Young also confirmed that currently the Russian vessel is safe. "The decision of the crew is the responsibility of his captain - said the head of rescue operations AMSA. - Dining continue with " Academician Shokalski " we have not been exhausted , but I want to clarify that all now seem to us to be less effective than the evacuation ."
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[link to www.newsru.com]
...at 20:08 ship's time (11:08 Moscow time= 07:08 UTC 01/01/14), the first helicopter took 12 passengers...
According to the AMSA, the helicopter will have to commit a total of seven flights to the "Academician Shokalski" - five times he would carry people and twice - luggage and equipment. Estimated duration of each flight - about 45 minutes...
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Chris [email protected]
The Chinese helicopter has arrived the Shokalskiy. It's 100% we're off! A huge thanks to all

Preston Phillips @10NewsPhillips 4 h
@ProfChrisTurney - Finally!! So happy for you guys!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52330707


What I am thinking now is:

What if ... it was PLANNED from the start to bring this ship in this POSITION and CONDITION ?
What if it HAD TO BE that it looked like they HAD TO EVACUATE the ship ?

The CHIN are up to their heads in to this this time [instead of 'The Odessa-Faction'].
Of course the French [Odessa-aligned] vessel came to look and see what it could do [scouting and legit spying],
but I cant let it go that the Chin had a long period of communication with this ice-stuck research-ship, and that THEY are the ones who are now evacuating the crew & scientists
instead of the Aussies ...

If you put this in the BEZERK-perspective then it all kinda makes sense too ...

What if on that [Russian] expedition vessel they have an "experiment going" that is vector-aligned with the works of the ODESSA-faction which implemented the oil-spills and spread CYNTHIA and other genetic-modified/genetic created lifeforms for multiple reasons we explained in our thread like "infecting the oil" and fight "AUgie" [the primordial ancient organism that was discovered, and is like an ancient defence and healing-organism inside Earth, but which carries/holds primordial DNA and genetic data which is important for the Odessa-faction [who want to abuse it for their own manipulation-games] but also important for the Chin/Jap faction [who want to defend and protect this organism] ...
{-in very simplistic words explained-}

This Russian expedition vessel will now be in Natural Quarantine for weeks ... and if the vessel will be crushed by the ice then there will be no panic if their experiment is "let loose" in these Antarctic waters ...

According to the techniques in the past 3 years that were displayed by the Chin-faction they will be able to ACTIVATE or SWITCH-OFF their "experiment" ...
[Techniques like the reverse-EMP technique that sucked energy out of nuclear vessels leaving them unharmed but unable to work, techniques like the activation of the antenna beneath the Great Chinese Wall, also think about advanced teleportation-techniques of particles, etc ..]


What if this expedition was A FALSE FLAG-operation [intended plan] and now there is no-one who will be able to reach the ship which is perfectly placed IN THE ICE and surrounded by the ice ... Ice are crystals and DATA-containers and AMPLIFIERS of energy !!!!


xxxK
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[link to www.newsru.com]
...at 20:08 ship's time (11:08 Moscow time= 07:08 UTC 01/01/14), the first helicopter took 12 passengers...
According to the AMSA, the helicopter will have to commit a total of seven flights to the "Academician Shokalski" - five times he would carry people and twice - luggage and equipment. Estimated duration of each flight - about 45 minutes...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52333841



Note that this is an 8-11 and 11-14/111-4 timestamp !!!

The GOM-oil spill was an 3-11 ...
We all know the 9-11 ...

first heli 12 persons = 1 12 ... 11-2

752 145

The numbers mentioned in this piece of text are all significant and related to CODE.
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don't worry:
it's impossible to hide at this really not big ship anything serious, especially in presence long time aboard during expedition a lot australian's scientists (or you're expect, that they are also involved in conspiracy ? gasp )
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Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 3 min
Stranded Antarctic research (pleasure cruise) ship voyage was bungled to begin with ... says NY Times. (@dotearth) [link to dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com] …
 Quoting: Luisport


---snipped text---

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[link to www.newsru.com]
google translation
...Captain "Academica Shokalski " so said the refusal to evacuate the crew : " The ship is not in danger , it is in normal operation , but we were on the ice ." " We hope for a change of wind, which will allow us to try to get out on their own. And hopefully that will help us get an American icebreaker Polar Star, which will cope with our ice- hundred percent ," - said the captain .

John Young also confirmed that currently the Russian vessel is safe. "The decision of the crew is the responsibility of his captain - said the head of rescue operations AMSA. - Dining continue with " Academician Shokalski " we have not been exhausted , but I want to clarify that all now seem to us to be less effective than the evacuation ."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52333841


BUNGLED TO BEGIN WITH ! NORMAL EXPEDITION = proceeding just as planned ... [just like I stated before]


The this can only be understood if you know what the BEZERK-thread is all about :

We hope for a change of wind, which will allow us to try to get out on their own. And hopefully that will help us get an American icebreaker Polar Star, which will cope with our ice- hundred percent ," - said the captain .


- A CHANGE OF WIND
= a change in power, not the ODESSA-faction way .. but now the Chin/Jap/Ruskie "wind-of-change" !
An attempt to change the domination of Synthia and all the other negative-charged organisms and destruction tactics.


- allow us to try to get out on their own = shouldnt it be "Allow US to try to get out on OUR own" ??????!!!!!

- get an American icebreaker Polar Star, which will cope with our ice- hundred percent ," =
The US [which is part of the ODESSA-faction] COPE with OUR ICE ?????

This implements that this ICE is special or that is is going to be different then before ...


xxxK

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Put the word out they are killing whales, then make a mini series off watching the sea Shepard go get them.
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[link to www.vesti.ru]
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..."Significant improvement of the ice conditions in the area of the ship is going to happen when the wind in the south-western, western and north-western direction. Expected that such winds reduce the cohesion of the drifting ice and create favorable ice conditions that will allow the ship to get out of their own ice captivity. Short favorable westerly winds are expected on January 7-8, "- said the press service of the Institute.

Currently the ship is in a spot of solid 10-ball drifting ice formed as a result of exposure to eastern and south-easterly winds. The press service of the Institute reminded that January is the second month of the summer season in the southern hemisphere. "These long-term observations allow us to expect a high probability of near-term changes in ice conditions in the area in the favorable direction", - the press-service...
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Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 13 h
Added that Southern Ocean region to GFS weather maps here: [link to models.weatherbell.com] … click on Australia and then Watt Bay option


Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 13 h
Frozen Antarctic vessel has pesky low pressure problems -- always stormy in circumpolar trough (due S of Tasmania) [link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Luisport


stormy conditions for nipped by floes vessel usually is not the worst option, but in most cases quite the opposite: such conditions can crack the ice fields, and the ship will be able to move. in history of antarctic and arctic researches a lot examples precisely such developments...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52285669


although china icebreaker (after yesterday australian scientists evacucation ) have some problems with moving toward ice edge
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Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 13 h
Added that Southern Ocean region to GFS weather maps here: [link to models.weatherbell.com] … click on Australia and then Watt Bay option


Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 13 h
Frozen Antarctic vessel has pesky low pressure problems -- always stormy in circumpolar trough (due S of Tasmania) [link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Luisport


stormy conditions for nipped by floes vessel usually is not the worst option, but in most cases quite the opposite: such conditions can crack the ice fields, and the ship will be able to move. in history of antarctic and arctic researches a lot examples precisely such developments...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52285669


although china icebreaker (after yesterday australian scientists evacucation ) have some problems with moving toward ice edge
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The Chinese icebreaker is now officially STUCK IN THE ICE too.

Global Warming tards.

Antarctic rescue ship now stuck in ice
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]


Karma is a bitch.....ain't it??? multleylaugh

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[link to www.vesti.ru]
Google translation
U.S. sends aid " Academician Shokalski " icebreaker Polar Star
5/1/2014 1:09 (updated at 01:33 )
U.S. sent in its Antarctic icebreaker Polar Star - he will help in the liberation of ice captivity Russian vessel " Akademik Shokalsky ." This was reported by Itar-Tass on Saturday January 4 representative USCG Allison Conroy . According to her, in response to the Australian Maritime Safety Services (AMSA) Polar Star left the port of Sydney to assist the two vessels - the Chinese " Syuelun " and Russian "Academician Shokalsky ." In the area of operations the U.S. icebreaker should come within a week...
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the interesting partof it all is that we are in SUMMER here in the Southern Hemisphere!



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the interesting part of it all is that we are in SUMMER here in the Southern Hemisphere!



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Only irrational people believe global warming is man made. 3/4 of this planet is water and there are numerous erupting underwater sites. Global cooling on the other hand is man made by contrails.
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you are stupid, so is your statement. I dont necessarly believe in global warming but the earth is definately changing. Of course a lot of it is caused by man, with all the pollution and toxins and carbons we continually pump in the atmosphere it absolutly has an effect.......MANMADE.
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I need to clean this up a little.

Not Contrails : It's Chemtrails ( Aluminium Oxide )

It's working! Arctic ice up over 50% in 1 year!

The sun IS the main factor in global warming/cooling.

El Nino (Geothermal) also causing global warming.

Mankind is - innocent -.

------
It was a politically driven HOAX.
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Not only Earth is heating up slightly,
but OTHER PLANETS in our solar-system are ...
this is NOT MAN-MADE !!!,
but part of a bigger cycle that has happened before this one a few times,
in the time of the dinosaurs the level of Co2 was higher then currently and that WITHOUT cars/machines/factories ... lol ....

TPTB only want you to believe its YOU coz that way you feel guilty and pay TAX ;)

Thus TPTB created a hoax by not telling us the truth,
Its not Global Warming but PLANETARY WARMING, as a result that we as a solar-system are travelling trough a much denser part and particle-wise a higher charged space-medium, with a lot more particles that interact with everything they encounter.

This causes a lot of CHANGES in many levels, and with changing chemical reactions ... There is a lot more happening then the OLD POWERS can account for with their laws and scientific dogma's and paradigms.
It suits them also in a political manner to reflect all the blame on other countries and parties.

Although they DO TRY a heck-of-a-lot with modern technology and wave-techniques .. they know they can NOT CHANGE THE COURSE the Old Gal Earth is heading for, cos she is just an interactive little chain in the big whole of the Fractal Nature [and design] of the Universe.


What all the different factions [old PTB, NWO, ODESSA or DRAGON,...] want is to have a grab and hold on 2 things:

1 - get hold on the newly forming bonds [chemicals and lifeforming(s)] that are occurring in rocks/sediments, in water(s) and airbound.
The supercharged particles from out of space are different then we have known for the past couple of thousands of years, and they DO INTERACT with US/all life on Earth and the other planets. They have the ability to re-activate junk-DNA.

2 - get hold and samples of the ancient organisms that get awakened [come out of hybernation/stasis, some after millions of years] and which still contain RNA and DNA DATA from that ancient primordial time-stamp, which are more valuable then gold or diamonds to them. They are like the STEMCELLS from which they can create and design new life, or with it alter existing life !!!


THAT is what part of this EXPEDITION is about !

The longer they are "stuck" in that ICE, the longer time they have to conduct tests, release substances, do examination, collect samples, etc ...

The US "help-on-the-way" will first have to free the "stuck" Chinese vessel before it can reach the Russian vessel ...lol... Smart move ! That will buy them time.

The US together with France [and many others of Europe], UK, and some others are part of a new faction called ODESSA-fleet ... they are counter and opposing a part of Russia, China, Egypt and some others and since Oct 13th 2010 also JAPAN.
A third faction is "Crescent moon" which is Islamitic.


THEY are ALL after these PRIMORDIAL ANCIENT ORGANISMS for their own reasons and benefits,
and to collect samples of NEW CHANGES and mutations which learn them what to expect in the near future and thus how to adapt their technology to it to still be able to dominate the global-average-person.


Nature is a constant repetition of patterns, like fractals,
and if you study these patterns you gain knowledge in every aspect [and design] of LIFE and the Universe.
To be able to control or manipulate this is to have control over everything ... To be truly God-Like ...



Look beyond the boundaries of your nose and personal perceptions and you will see the world in a different manner/matter.


xxxK
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It's summer in Antarctic continent

Summer, not winter
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Yes ...
but still there was more ICE then they could have predicted and counted for ...lol...

Thats why the Chin person said that the US HAD TO DEAL WITH OUR ICE !!!
OUR ICE = Chinese/Russian ice = = => a result of an EXPERIMENT, something they planned, deliberately !!!

Now they are in natural quarantine for a few weeks ... no one to mess with them ...
except maybe a sub or maybe not ...


I want you to even also look further and connect some other dots :

What are the odds of THIS happening ?
---> 2 ships stuck "unexpectedly" [lol] in Antarctic ice in SUMMER ???!!!!!
---> at the same time a RARE POLAR-VORTEX happening at the Arctic which brings a titans-winter weather to the Northern Hemisphere ???!!!! All together with sudden outbreaks of deadly H1N1 ....


It is my opinion [and BEZERK's] that Jap/Chin/Rus were attacked with Fukushima to sabotage and slow them down by the Odessa-factions which also cauzed the 2010 GOM-oil-spill, which the Chinese prevented a second rig to be sabotaged ...
The Odessa-faction/NWO are messing things up in their own country to weaken people [depopulation] and the horrific winter-weather and deadly-flu outbreaks could be well fitted in those plans, and to make them dependent-thus-obeying & vulnerable ...

To me it seems that this Antarctic expedition is something from the Chin/Jap/Rusk faction to try to get advantage first and earlier then the Odessa-faction.
To get hold on ancient and new meteorite material [Ison] and evidence of other changes occurring.




Thanx ...
hope you will be able to see through the media-rubbish and connect the real-dots ....


xxxK
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Re: UPDATE: Time to say screw it --> "There is now about 22 km of ice between the ship and open water."!!!
Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 13 h
Added that Southern Ocean region to GFS weather maps here: [link to models.weatherbell.com] … click on Australia and then Watt Bay option


Ryan Maue ‏@RyanMaue 13 h
Frozen Antarctic vessel has pesky low pressure problems -- always stormy in circumpolar trough (due S of Tasmania) [link to twitter.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Luisport


stormy conditions for nipped by floes vessel usually is not the worst option, but in most cases quite the opposite: such conditions can crack the ice fields, and the ship will be able to move. in history of antarctic and arctic researches a lot examples precisely such developments...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52285669


just in
[link to top.rbc.ru]
Google translation
...Russian vessel "Akademik Shokalsky" freed from ice captivity - the wind changed direction and the ice formed a wide crack, where the captain and sent sudno.sudno now goes south at a speed of three knots...





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