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News Flash: Inflammation Is What Causes Most Of Today's Heart Disease, not necessarily high fat diet

 
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"What are the biggest culprits of chronic inflammation? Quite simply, they are the overload of simple, highly processed carbohydrates (sugar, flourand all the products made from them) and the excess consumption of omega-6 vegetable oils like soybean, corn and sunflower that are found in many processed foods.

Take a moment to visualize rubbing a stiff brush repeatedly over soft skin until it becomes quite red and nearly bleeding. you kept this up several times a day, every day for five years. If you could tolerate this painful brushing, you would have a bleeding, swollen infected area that became worse with each repeated injury. This is a good way to visualize the inflammatory process that could be going on in your body right now."
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
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yeah and a lot of times these cholesterol lowering drugs cause worse side effects than the original ailment! It's all a scam.
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
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what are the natural remedies - do you know?


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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
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Not true...had 2 heart attacks several years ago and i have been on blood thinners, aspirin, statins, niacin, fish oil. I asked my heart doctor about coQ10 and if i needed to take it since i saw the commercials about it and he said no was a waste of money...
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Of course it's a waste of money, he doesn't get any of it!
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52124200


Not true...had 2 heart attacks several years ago and i have been on blood thinners, aspirin, statins, niacin, fish oil. I asked my heart doctor about coQ10 and if i needed to take it since i saw the commercials about it and he said no was a waste of money...
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No. Its true. Its your dr that is misinformed.
Blood thinners are a toxic chemical. Many of which are derived from rat poison. By thining your blood in such a way they increase the resulting inflammation to stop the internal bleeding.

Statins lower cholesterol- keep in mind your brain is mostly cholesterol..... and cholesterol is the primary building block of certain hormones like testosterone.

Take a fish, keep it out of the fridge at 98.6 degrees for a few hours. Would you eat it? What makes anyone believe that rancid fish fat from a factory in China is good for you? Open up the capsule and taste it...... i am willing to bet you would not swallow it down.

Aspirin is actually good. It keeps blood cells from clumping. It is a know cancer fighter and boosts metabolism. Studies have shown that 1 full aspirin a day is better than statins in lowering cholesterol and triglycerides while increasing cellular energy.
---Do not swallow it whole. Chew it to avoid stomach issues.
It also depletes vitamin E and K. You need about 1-3 mg a day if you take aspirin. Vit K2(mk4) also increases testosterone by converting cholesterol.
K is actually more effective than CoQ10.
Niacin comes in many forms all sold as niacin but they are chemically different. The one you should be taking is niacinamide.
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A doc told me inflammation could be caused by oxidized cholestetol.
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Mmm animal fat.
Fuck vegans and their dangerous bullshit.
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
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[link to myscienceacademy.org]

"What are the biggest culprits of chronic inflammation? Quite simply, they are the overload of simple, highly processed carbohydrates (sugar, flourand all the products made from them) and the excess consumption of omega-6 vegetable oils like soybean, corn and sunflower that are found in many processed foods.

Take a moment to visualize rubbing a stiff brush repeatedly over soft skin until it becomes quite red and nearly bleeding. you kept this up several times a day, every day for five years. If you could tolerate this painful brushing, you would have a bleeding, swollen infected area that became worse with each repeated injury. This is a good way to visualize the inflammatory process that could be going on in your body right now."
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Makes sense. That's why people who eat off the land are so healthy== as the eskimoes & aborigines of Australia, Africa and other nations.
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
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yeah and a lot of times these cholesterol lowering drugs cause worse side effects than the original ailment! It's all a scam.
 Quoting: eekers


Oyster mushrooms naturally contain Lovastatin, the same ingredient found in the Big Pharma drug Mevacor®.

I don't hear doctors recommending eating oyster mushrooms to keep cholesterol in check... wonder why? hmmmmmmm......
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52124200


Inflammation is caused by several dozen different things. Try not to simplify or state definitive things in regards to health & bio. Maybe share some pubmed papers on your claim but more importantly why not share some natural remedies for Enterovirus. I'm not disagreeing with anything you said just that sharing information is why you are here right?

IMO the biggest cause of health problems in the world is being overweight. When you are overweight your entire body is suffering from Chronic Inflammation.

Control obesity to Control Inflammation but you can also Control Inflammation to control obesity; It's quite interesting. Most important takeaway however is if you Control Inflammation you can stay alive because inflammation leads to almost all disease.

Breaking the Obesity-Inflammation Cycle
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Obesity and cancer: inflammation bridges the two
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"What are the biggest culprits of chronic inflammation? Quite simply, they are the overload of simple, highly processed carbohydrates (sugar, flourand all the products made from them) and the excess consumption of omega-6 vegetable oils like soybean, corn and sunflower that are found in many processed foods.

Take a moment to visualize rubbing a stiff brush repeatedly over soft skin until it becomes quite red and nearly bleeding. you kept this up several times a day, every day for five years. If you could tolerate this painful brushing, you would have a bleeding, swollen infected area that became worse with each repeated injury. This is a good way to visualize the inflammatory process that could be going on in your body right now."
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Makes sense. That's why people who eat off the land are so healthy== as the eskimoes & aborigines of Australia, Africa and other nations.
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The Eskimos thrived because of two things a balance of healthy fats: in Fish Oil, Omega 3 and the extreme amount of Astaxanthin. Astaxanthin is one of the only Antioxidants I have studied that doesn't do damage cells in high doses. In other words take as much as you can afford. It's what makes salmon and flamingos pink and it's way more powerful than vitamin c.

7 Potential Benefits of Astaxanthin
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A doc told me inflammation could be caused by oxidized cholestetol.
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Pretty much! Oxidation causes stress (inflammation) in the cells and that increases Reactive Oxygen Species and when ROS imbalance occurs your cells become prone to cancer and all disease.

Inflammatory response, reactive oxygen species,
programmed (necrotic-like and apoptotic)
cell death and cancer
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52124200


Not true...had 2 heart attacks several years ago and i have been on blood thinners, aspirin, statins, niacin, fish oil. I asked my heart doctor about coQ10 and if i needed to take it since i saw the commercials about it and he said no was a waste of money...
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He is an idiot. Probably also says vitamins just turn your pee yellow. Statins deplete Q10 and cause heart attack without Q10, read the insert from the pharmacy about your drug. Sratins are killers
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Inflammation is caused by enterovirus most autopsies prove.

Enterovirus is easily and cheaply cured by natural remedies.

But the point is to $ell overpriced useless drugs not cure people.

In fact if you didn't have heart disease stains would kill you in 5 years. Stain deplete body of coQ10 without which you die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52124200


Not true...had 2 heart attacks several years ago and i have been on blood thinners, aspirin, statins, niacin, fish oil. I asked my heart doctor about coQ10 and if i needed to take it since i saw the commercials about it and he said no was a waste of money...
 Quoting: southern man 1685967


I hope you are taking an broad rotation of antioxidants? Nothing above is healing your damaged cells, it's just allowing you to keep chugging for a while. You need to fix the damage too or it will never go away.

Don't use your doctor as your only source of information. They went to a school that taught people how to maintain sickness not to heal it. Nothing against him, it's all he knows... Maintenance.
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Let's not forget what the heart is, a muscle.

It is the most important of all the muscles because it must operate 24/7/365 without skipping a beat.

To keep a muscle in top condition it must operate at or near the top of it's capacity.

Now look at the modern human being.

How much time in a day do you think the average human being spends at rest as opposed to in some form or aerobic activity, even as simple as walking?

Inactivity leads to the decay and atrophy of the heart. All the rest of the shit that goes along with that- from eating shitty food, to taking all kinds of drugs, to carrying around a couple of extra bowling balls worth of fat for an entire adult lifetime all adds to the problem.

It certainly isn't a high animal fat diet.
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One last thing, take a huge variety of antioxidants on a rotation. Increase your Glutathione with either NAC, Alpha Lipoic Acid, Whey Protein.

Glutathione allows antioxidants to do their work and if you have damage already you definitely need a boost of Glutathione.

You should spend a month learning all the varieties of antioxidants and potential sources.

All Antioxidants have an ORAC value
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Let's not forget what the heart is, a muscle.

It is the most important of all the muscles because it must operate 24/7/365 without skipping a beat.

To keep a muscle in top condition it must operate at or near the top of it's capacity.

Now look at the modern human being.

How much time in a day do you think the average human being spends at rest as opposed to in some form or aerobic activity, even as simple as walking?

Inactivity leads to the decay and atrophy of the heart. All the rest of the shit that goes along with that- from eating shitty food, to taking all kinds of drugs, to carrying around a couple of extra bowling balls worth of fat for an entire adult lifetime all adds to the problem.

It certainly isn't a high animal fat diet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76531980


So true!

It's like an old car that sits in garage for 30 years without running. Exercise is just as important for the body as sleep is.

Here's an interesting nugget of trivia, Cell Damage to the body during Stroke, Heart Attack etc... does not occur from lack of oxygen. The bulk of the damage happens when the cells are re-oxygenated.

I just did a quick search and accidentally found an article that showed this re-oxygenation damage can be prevented with simple antioxidants like vit C. Keep in mind the below study is not open source so I cannot see the amount used. It's an in the dish study invitro not an in the body study invivo so it's basically practically useless although interesting.

[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]


You can protect yourself from future damage as well as repair current damage if your body is flush with antioxidants.
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Old thread, but pinned anyway.

Good reminder info for people.
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Mmm animal fat.
Fuck vegans and their dangerous bullshit.
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Lard, ghee, coconut oil to cook.

Olive oil eat raw.

We need FAT to many body functions. We don't need sugars and starches.

Think about this: Look into people who live longer and you will find out they are the ones with the higher colesterol.
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Just proves what I've been saying for years.

The food is killing us and causing all these problems.

They are slowly poisoning and killing us through food and the doctors simply offer pills as a solution, never a diet change.
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Body inflammation you can cure it with turmeric+black pepper.

Cut lactose and gluten.
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Just proves what I've been saying for years.

The food is killing us and causing all these problems.

They are slowly poisoning and killing us through food and the doctors simply offer pills as a solution, never a diet change.
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Doctors are not taught nutrition at Universities. And if they do, it's insignificant.
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Let's not forget what the heart is, a muscle.

It is the most important of all the muscles because it must operate 24/7/365 without skipping a beat.

To keep a muscle in top condition it must operate at or near the top of it's capacity.

Now look at the modern human being.

How much time in a day do you think the average human being spends at rest as opposed to in some form or aerobic activity, even as simple as walking?

Inactivity leads to the decay and atrophy of the heart. All the rest of the shit that goes along with that- from eating shitty food, to taking all kinds of drugs, to carrying around a couple of extra bowling balls worth of fat for an entire adult lifetime all adds to the problem.

It certainly isn't a high animal fat diet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76531980


Simply going on a brisk walk daily will solve that issue, which 90% of people don't do.

We walk to the grocery store all the time in my house, it's great exercise with carrying the groceries back..

I go on a daily jog personally, gotta get that heart rate up daily.
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Body inflammation you can cure it with turmeric+black pepper.

Cut lactose and gluten.
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THIS X 100000000

GLUTEN AND LACTOSE ARE KILLERS
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Just proves what I've been saying for years.

The food is killing us and causing all these problems.

They are slowly poisoning and killing us through food and the doctors simply offer pills as a solution, never a diet change.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668


Doctors are not taught nutrition at Universities. And if they do, it's insignificant.
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I was told that in Japan, sucess of doctors are seen by the health of their patients. If they get ill, doctors have to treat them for free until they are fine.

This is not possible in western medicinem, because they live of disease, not Health. Think about it.
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[link to myscienceacademy.org]

"What are the biggest culprits of chronic inflammation? Quite simply, they are the overload of simple, highly processed carbohydrates (sugar, flourand all the products made from them) and the excess consumption of omega-6 vegetable oils like soybean, corn and sunflower that are found in many processed foods.

Take a moment to visualize rubbing a stiff brush repeatedly over soft skin until it becomes quite red and nearly bleeding. you kept this up several times a day, every day for five years. If you could tolerate this painful brushing, you would have a bleeding, swollen infected area that became worse with each repeated injury. This is a good way to visualize the inflammatory process that could be going on in your body right now."
 Quoting: eekers


Our Great grandparents, grandparents ate steak, bacon, and stuff fried in lard and many lived to a hunderd

Todays people are dropping dead in their 60s, Thanks Mcdonalds and big city fast food, preservative, frankenfood chemical living
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It certainly isn't a high animal fat diet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76531980


No actually all the wheat and milk based foods is what's doing it.

Adults have a hard time processing lactose, and if you were C sectioned forget it, just avoid all together.

Bread actually is the number one killer, specifically wheat.

That's whats clogging us up, causing people to rack up pounds and all types of health issues as a result.





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