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News Flash: Inflammation Is What Causes Most Of Today's Heart Disease, not necessarily high fat diet

 
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from a medical study, recent:

CONCLUSIONS:
Available evidence from randomized controlled trials shows that replacement of saturated fat in the diet with linoleic acid effectively lowers serum cholesterol but does not support the hypothesis that this translates to a lower risk of death from coronary heart disease or all causes. Findings from the Minnesota Coronary Experiment add to growing evidence that incomplete publication has contributed to overestimation of the benefits of replacing saturated fat with vegetable oils rich in linoleic acid.
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The Minnesota Coronary Experiment was done about 50 years ago. It wasn't published because it didn't support the "saturated fat bad" theory.
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11/08/2019 03:17 PM
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Let's not forget what the heart is, a muscle.

It is the most important of all the muscles because it must operate 24/7/365 without skipping a beat.

To keep a muscle in top condition it must operate at or near the top of it's capacity.

Now look at the modern human being.

How much time in a day do you think the average human being spends at rest as opposed to in some form or aerobic activity, even as simple as walking?

Inactivity leads to the decay and atrophy of the heart. All the rest of the shit that goes along with that- from eating shitty food, to taking all kinds of drugs, to carrying around a couple of extra bowling balls worth of fat for an entire adult lifetime all adds to the problem.

It certainly isn't a high animal fat diet.
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Not true. Stephen Hawking lived to 76. He wasn't running marathons. The body is not a machine. It's the Spirit in Flesh. It responds to belief and emotion.
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I had a heart attack at age 56! My cholesterol was really high and they put me on statins but the statins elevated my liver enzymes so they took me off and wanted me to go on an injectable cholesterol med but I have not followed through. Not sure what to do at this point.
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Anyone interested in health should listen to the podcasts by Dr. Paul Saladino, MD. He follows a "nose to tail" carnivore diet. You'll be blown away by the information and myth busting.

Even if you aren't interested in a 100% animal based diet the knowledge you will gain is amazing.

This isn't just some guy promoting some crazy diet, the podcasts are deeply science based and he has guests like Harvard researchers and the top nutritional doctors/scientists
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It certainly isn't a high animal fat diet.
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No actually all the wheat and milk based foods is what's doing it.

Adults have a hard time processing lactose, and if you were C sectioned forget it, just avoid all together.

Bread actually is the number one killer, specifically wheat.

That's whats clogging us up, causing people to rack up pounds and all types of health issues as a result.
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Today's milk is inflammatory because of something done to the cows many years ago. It corrupted the milk. Since this info has gotten public, there is non-corrupted milk for sale in some stores. It is designated A2 milk.My daughter could not consume any milk product without total-body pain and inflammation. She now buys A2 milk and has no problems. Look it up on the internet. It tells you how it happened.I believe that there is only one type of cow that was not corrupted.
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It certainly isn't a high animal fat diet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76531980


No actually all the wheat and milk based foods is what's doing it.

Adults have a hard time processing lactose, and if you were C sectioned forget it, just avoid all together.

Bread actually is the number one killer, specifically wheat.

That's whats clogging us up, causing people to rack up pounds and all types of health issues as a result.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42079668


Today's milk is inflammatory because of something done to the cows many years ago. It corrupted the milk. Since this info has gotten public, there is non-corrupted milk for sale in some stores. It is designated A2 milk.My daughter could not consume any milk product without total-body pain and inflammation. She now buys A2 milk and has no problems. Look it up on the internet. It tells you how it happened.I believe that there is only one type of cow that was not corrupted.
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Yes, and also other animals like goats and sheep produce A2 milk
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Every medicine doctors perscribe are a synthetic version of what exists in Nature. So that way, they can make a lot of m oney, because Nature cannot be patented.
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And if people just adjusted their diet and lifestyle they wouldn't need those med's.

But no doctor will say that.
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There is some sunlight breaking through. It is slow going because professionals are slow to part with the old ways.One of those pioneers of the new way is Dr. Fung. He has written books, made videos which teach the new effective way of treating obesity and diabetes.
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Oh snap
Thanks for the pin guys
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Thanks for starting off this thread, eekers.

Great content, all of you!
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Mmm animal fat.
Fuck vegans and their dangerous bullshit.
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Lard, ghee, coconut oil to cook.

Olive oil eat raw.

We need FAT to many body functions. We don't need sugars and starches.

Think about this: Look into people who live longer and you will find out they are the ones with the higher colesterol.
Here it is, one of many studies available now: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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Thanks so much for posting that!

My young Vegan friend has gotten his cholesterol down to 58. !

He has been lowering it purposely for years

He thinks the opposite of high cholesterol will help him live over 100
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Mmm animal fat.
Fuck vegans and their dangerous bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77548268


Lard, ghee, coconut oil to cook.

Olive oil eat raw.

We need FAT to many body functions. We don't need sugars and starches.

Think about this: Look into people who live longer and you will find out they are the ones with the higher colesterol.
Here it is, one of many studies available now: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25369713


Thanks so much for posting that!

My young Vegan friend has gotten his cholesterol down to 58. !

He has been lowering it purposely for years

He thinks the opposite of high cholesterol will help him live over 100
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15597339


Have him read this, he might change his mind, although vegans usually have some underlying mental conditions

[link to heart.bmj.com (secure)]
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11/08/2019 05:33 PM
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Mmm animal fat.
Fuck vegans and their dangerous bullshit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77548268


Lard, ghee, coconut oil to cook.

Olive oil eat raw.

We need FAT to many body functions. We don't need sugars and starches.

Think about this: Look into people who live longer and you will find out they are the ones with the higher colesterol.
Here it is, one of many studies available now: [link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25369713


Thanks so much for posting that!

My young Vegan friend has gotten his cholesterol down to 58. !

He has been lowering it purposely for years

He thinks the opposite of high cholesterol will help him live over 100
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15597339


Have him read this, he might change his mind, although vegans usually have some underlying mental conditions

[link to heart.bmj.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26871372


Or this:

[link to www.drbriffa.com]

There are some additional recent studies showing higher cholesterol as protective (reducing all cause mortality) but I don't feel like looking for them right now, I mean, when you think about it isn't one less vegan actually a good thing?
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Let's not forget what the heart is, a muscle.

It is the most important of all the muscles because it must operate 24/7/365 without skipping a beat.

To keep a muscle in top condition it must operate at or near the top of it's capacity.

Now look at the modern human being.

How much time in a day do you think the average human being spends at rest as opposed to in some form or aerobic activity, even as simple as walking?

Inactivity leads to the decay and atrophy of the heart. All the rest of the shit that goes along with that- from eating shitty food, to taking all kinds of drugs, to carrying around a couple of extra bowling balls worth of fat for an entire adult lifetime all adds to the problem.

It certainly isn't a high animal fat diet.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76531980


Not true. Stephen Hawking lived to 76. He wasn't running marathons. The body is not a machine. It's the Spirit in Flesh. It responds to belief and emotion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77044814


This is also so true!!

Take a look at this example, see how they test medicines. They ALWAYS use a placebo. And through the power of belief, placebo works!!!!
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Re: News Flash: Inflammation Is What Causes Most Of Today's Heart Disease, not necessarily high fat diet
Speaking of teeth, my dog's teeth are rotting and falling out. What do you think I could do? Iodine drops in the water bowl?





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