FED BLACK CARD

So how exactly would one pursue the redeeming of the BC?

You guys mentioned something about how the lawful money route "could" prevent you from seeing the bigger picture. I think it was hunny~b or gideon.

Could you guys elaborate on that?

In my opinion, there is way more to this than "money". If that's all your worried about that's fine, but you're selling yourself short. This is about remembering who you are and stepping forward to demonstrate that. If you return to the father, concerns about whether money is lawful or otherwise are a thing of the past. Now, that's not to say that there isn't validity to the lawful money train of thought. It's just that if that's what you're into you're glancing at a tiny sapling in a forest full of redwoods.

Additionally, I would focus on equity not commerce unless you're Jean Keating. The UCC 1 is a rather dangerous document if you ask me. If that's the path you take then you're attempting to play Monopoly with Milton Bradley himself. Good luck with that.

WWCD

Hi WWCD!
How have you been?
Yes, and Amen to what you have shared! :)
"Money" is amoral. Meaning it is neither "good nor bad".
It either "rules" over you, or YOU take control and tell it what to do.

"Use" is the condition in which all is held. "One must be lead by the spirit and exercise discernment over everything.

How are you managing all that you have at this present time?
Those who are faithful with a little, will be faithful with a lot. :)

Standing and State are two different things. It's important to understand the difference.

Standing deals with relationship.
State (time) deals with our condition.

One must start right where they "stand", do the work to improve the relationship, and our "state"/condition changes accordingly.

You don't "kill the strawman" per se, we reckon or count it as "dead". The obligation to "obey" it must end. We cannot become "unborn" from it.
One must be born again, our thoughts, actions, awareness, knowledge, habits and loves.
Our "old" ways must be laid down and all things made new.

In the Wizard of Oz, the straw man had no heart. One needs a heart, a new heart. A heart that loves others like our Heavenly Father loves us! Unconditionally.
One must "see" himself as he currently stands. Know thyself.
You need to know where you "stand" in order to know how to proceed.

i guess none have gotten their magical get out of debt free card, nor gained control of the millions of $ in "their" accounts.

just as i thought.

for those still crapping on the concept of redemption per 12 USC 411 and lawful money demand, you are speaking from ignorance. never did anyone proclaim 12 usc 411 demand for lawful money redemption was the end game.

what was posted was it was a PROVEN way to control your own finances, business affairs, fractional reserve banking, usury, freedom from income tax and all its trappings and numerous other Federal and State intrusions into my personal life.

it has been proven again last year and this year by numerous new suitors who have ended the IRS involvement into their pockets, and we have the Federal court documents to back that claim.

while the UCC, Federal direct account, controlling the trust, killing the strawman crews continue to end up in jail, paying income tax, and generally falling flat on their faces, we continue to gain new ground in property ownership, freedom from corrupt courts and FIAT currency woes.

and we have public record to prove it all, not just "i know someone who does it and they are teaching me how and someday, i will get it right".

are you ready to learn yet? or shall i stop bumping this thread and let it die again?

by their fruits ye shall know them and the FED BLACK card produces no fruit whatsoever.

Again...I'm glad that you have gotten what you wanted using the methods that you seem to hold very dear to your heart. That's awesome. I, too, am in the process of getting what I want using the methods that I have uncovered as I go along my way.

Yes, the system is a complete and total snow job, but we (as individuals who don't know who we are) are the ones who have provided the snow. The system had no choice but to step in to try and pick up a little slack. There are two sides to this...public and private. I don't want any part of the public, really.

The hatefulness in your tone is startling, most sincerely. If I were to show you the progress I have made, which I won't because you've not demonstrated that you are worthy of it, your mind would be blown. Yes, the thread has slowed way down. I think primarily because we have all seen fit to go our own way and stop wasting time arguing with people like you who just don't get what we're trying to achieve. Plus, quite frankly I'm beyond the point where I feel comfortable sharing what I have learned on a medium such as this. Find it out for yourself.

You can start by remembering who you are, my friend. Remember who you are.

WWCD

Unworthy!? Who are you to judge anyone? The only "hate" I see on this and other threads about this topic are from YOUR posts.

Seeking ones own path seems to fulfill Jesus' prophecy of wickedness in the last days, but those were his words and I would not project them onto you the way you project hater on what was written.

Just because you post of your miraculous deeds and offer zero verifiable results tells me you may THINK things have happened, but until and unless you can show me where and exactly how you have made the Government perform it's lawful duties to protect you, your family and your property then frankly, I am not impressed.

I will leave your thread to die the death it deserves.

Still have not got your black fed card have you? Nope, did not think so.

I am new to your form. I have the UCC-1 filled out correctly, the other form you have to fill out after that also. after you fill out all the form. and complete the process you send it to the US treasury to accept it for value. At that time you can start writting off your debts to your treasury account, (mine is 40 million you can look them up) and the head guy will send you bonds. We are employees of the gov. that never gets our paychecks and when we die the gov. assumes rights (they are our strawman) and collects the money. There is a way you can get a black card too but i have not found it yet, still working on it. I am willing to share all my info. i have lots of great info that explains everything. and im in contact with two people that have completed the process. this is one that will help anyone understand.

[link to www.debtloanpayoff.com]

For one, them being able to change definitions on a whim is completely irreverent. Because unless I AGREE with their definition, there is no trust and no law formed. Without juris-diction there is no law. Jury's have to AGREE, no agreement, no law, no verdict, no sentence.

As for your attack on lawful money, again, you are full if it, you use money and if you use money that is commercial fiat, YOU remain fallen and dead. When you explain to me how you pay your debts without those payments being lawful in both jurisdictions (land/sea) then we can talk.

You act like you know what is up, but as you have posted before, you have not found remedy. That's funny because your consistent attacks and slights at my posts in this thread seem to miss one important fact, I have found remedy, I own my property, I have my own court, I enter into commercial acts with full protection of the law, I travel freely without ID, I pay my debts and try to help people who are searching free of charge. I work, get a check, pay zero withholding, as does my wife and pay ZERO income tax, Social Security, etc.

When you can claim (and prove) the same (or better) then one can presume to lecture me on the subject of remedy, and tell me again about what is "lawful",

I have limited my appearances on this thread out of respect for the Ops wishes, so stop calling me out on what I have posted until you at least get to the level of remedy I have, because you are allot of talk and judgement without much real result from what I can tell.

Sorry Op. back on track.

Any one still current? winner winner chicken dinner? DizzieMissLizzie?

Care to help another on the same?

Any one still current? winner winner chicken dinner? DizzieMissLizzie?

Hmmm...current is an interesting word. Ha. Yes, I'm still kickin'.

Why' interesting'?

what a LONG STRANGE TRIP this has been!!