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Debt burdens in developed nations have become extreme by any historical measure and will require a wave of haircuts, warns IMF paper.

Much of the Western world will require defaults, a savings tax and higher inflation to clear the way for recovery as debt levels reach a 200-year high, according to a new report by the International Monetary Fund.

The IMF working paper said debt burdens in developed nations have become extreme by any historical measure and will require a wave of haircuts, either negotiated 1930s-style write-offs or the standard mix of measures used by the IMF in its “toolkit” for emerging market blow-ups.

The paper says the Western debt burden is now so big that rich states will need same tonic of debt haircuts, higher inflation and financial repression - defined as an “opaque tax on savers” - as used in countless IMF rescues for emerging markets.

Most advanced states wrote off debt in the 1930s, though in different ways. First World War loans from the US were forgiven when the Hoover Moratorium expired in 1934, giving debt relief worth 24pc of GDP to France, 22pc to Britain and 19pc to Italy.

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The policy is essentially a confiscation of savings, partly achieved by pushing up inflation while rigging the system to stop markets taking evasive action. The UK and the US ran negative real interest rates of -2pc to -4pc for several years after the Second World War. Real rates in Italy and Australia were -5pc.
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IMF A Dangerous Marxist Entity That Is Hell-Bent on Destroying Liberty For All


The head of the IMF is effectively a French Socialist who is hell bent on destroying the world economy imposing French Socialism on the rest of the world. Christine Madeleine Odette Lagarde is of course a French:lawyer and politician who has been the Managing Director of the International Monetary Fund (IMF) since 5 July 2011. She is born and bred to be a true French-communist (the type that convinced Marx to join) and sees other people’s money as the wealth of the state. They do not respect your property and violate the Commandments by coveting their neighbor’s goods.

She is the one behind these crazy ideas of confiscating 10% of everyone’s bank accounts in Europe and now has the audacity to tell the USA that it should raise its taxes to 71%. I suppose if France is collapsing and its head has fallen to a 9% approval rating with crazy laws making it illegal to ever close your business, then if she can screw up the rest of the world, then France will not look so bad.

It is economics that is driving this cycle. They will try to oppress, beat, imprison, and kill the people, justifying their actions like any sick individual who always blames everyone but themselves for what takes place. They will destroy civilization just to hold those reigns of power no different from Stalin who would do anything to maintain control. These people do not respect your rights or property. Everything simply belongs to them to decide what to do with it. No different than Communism. It is always about them retaining position and power.


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So,then, the taper is just a headfake.I reckon Yellen will be printing 150 billion per month by this time next year.
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The crash will happen September 2015.
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The crash will happen September 2015.
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SAVINGS TAX!

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So those people who were sensible, saved what they earn and didnt buy houses a cars and big screen tv's on credit have to now pay because of everybody elses debt!

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From the comments section of the article:

I knew this would happen, after what happened in Cyprus when they raided bank accounts last year to pay down the debt, it only set the precedent........The IMF pulled it off and the rest of the worlds banks were watching, and licking their chops, to see if Cyprus would get away with it. Well they did, no major insurrection, and it's no longer a news story....the world forget about it!

Now their eyeing this prospect again.....except on a global scale.

The bad part of all this is, they (the banking system) already has your money (checking, savings, retirements 401k, pensions), all they have to do is click the mouse and your broke, or no longer have access to your hard earned money.
This is scary stuff folks, this is what happens when socialist are given power and are allowed to run amok in high levels of business.

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It is not dark sinister groups trying to collapse the economy to create a new world of Communism, that was the fad back in Rockefeller’s day. They actually believed Communism would work and be fair. The USA adopted Marxism and that became self-evident in the tax code where it hit 94% in 1945. I do not care who you are – a 94% tax rate is not economic freedom. Even serfs go to keep 20% in the Dark Ages. This was American Communism where you retained ownership in title, but they were like the muscle that shook you down.

What we should be concerned about is the effort to eliminate economic freedom. These people believe they are not the problem – it is you. If you paid all your taxes, they could keep the system running and retain power. But the more this system fails, the greater they will use their powers to hunt everything down. This is how Rome fell. Maximinus I declared all wealth belonged to the state. When there were no other enemies to wage war against and bring home more wealth, they began turning against their own people. This is how EVERY empire has died.


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savings tax..they'll dip in and take a certain percentage of all accounts.
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Theft. Honestly, if they do this here, bankers had better have a LOT of security. People are already getting hungry. Add angry and victimized to the list of grievances and we may well have an honest chance at revolution.
Wishful thinking, I know.

Then again, Just waiting for them to lay us over a bench and rape the life out of us isn't living and is most certainly NOT working to fix anything. (RANT FUCKING ON!)

Jesus, I live in Texas and even the local and state governments are corrupt as fuck. When I lived in Utah, they were corrupt as fuck there too. When I lived in Oregon, Washington and Wyoming, corrupt as fuck. Guess what? Lived overseas a bit too. Corrupt as fuck there too. I am sick of it. Literally everywhere I have lived on this planet was full of corrupt assholes running the show while stealing from the people they claim to represent and protect!

I have seen small towns and even whole counties reject the rule and authority of those same assholes only to watch those towns be slowly destroyed over time by dickhead leftists/communists from California and New York moving in because things got good and they can't fucking have that! There are also the ones that are flat assaulted by Fed forces. Murder is legal if you carry a badge.

I believe widespread revolution and the return of our true Constitutional Republic is our only real hope now. And the chances of success are slipping into oblivion every day it doesn't happen.
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Theft. Honestly, if they do this here, bankers had better have a LOT of security. People are already getting hungry. Add angry and victimized to the list of grievances and we may well have an honest chance at revolution.
Wishful thinking, I know.

Then again, Just waiting for them to lay us over a bench and rape the life out of us isn't living and is most certainly NOT working to fix anything. (RANT FUCKING ON!)

Jesus, I live in Texas and even the local and state governments are corrupt as fuck. When I lived in Utah, they were corrupt as fuck there too. When I lived in Oregon, Washington and Wyoming, corrupt as fuck. Guess what? Lived overseas a bit too. Corrupt as fuck there too. I am sick of it. Literally everywhere I have lived on this planet was full of corrupt assholes running the show while stealing from the people they claim to represent and protect!

I have seen small towns and even whole counties reject the rule and authority of those same assholes only to watch those towns be slowly destroyed over time by dickhead leftists/communists from California and New York moving in because things got good and they can't fucking have that! There are also the ones that are flat assaulted by Fed forces. Murder is legal if you carry a badge.

I believe widespread revolution and the return of our true Constitutional Republic is our only real hope now. And the chances of success are slipping into oblivion every day it doesn't happen.
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The IMF & The Destruction of Capital Formation

. . . such a confiscation is incredibly DEFLATIONARY for it will reduce the money supply since the confiscation will cover losses – not stimulate the economy.



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The only people I know who are saving money are the banks. All that loot that they were supposed to lend us, instead, they haven't lent it to us. So, tax away!
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Real problem is, once they have taken a % of our banking balances they will inforce "forced loans" and nationalize our 401Ks and like investments. They will most likely take all of our balances and replace them with some form of Gov Bonds. Forced Loans have been a sign, historically, of the last legs of a government.
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