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work desk neighbor behind me is talking UP Obamacare

 
R.P. McMurphy

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OP... you should really cover-thy-ass, if you know what I'm saying.

Request a meeting with HR and explain how this person makes you feel uncomfortable, and request to be moved away from her.

Last Edited by Mike Ehrmantraut on 01/03/2014 01:46 PM
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she is saying that insurance is cheeper now for people who couldnt afford it before...

and that insurance companies can no longer deny anybody for pre-existing.


i thought the whole populace was against obamacare... what dafuq she talkin boutwtf
 Quoting: webbyBird


Fuck, just keep throwing up the deductible part...lol
 Quoting: ~sIcKaNdTwIsTeD~


Yup... the deductible... the premiums... the fact that more people have lost their insurance than have signed up.

Then ask her to name the three branches of government... and when she can't do that, simply state "And this is how obama got elected."
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Perfect actually, well said!
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Greta Van Susteran has had Rahm Emmanuel's brother (Ezekiel I believe) on her show and it was stated he is one of the authors of the ACA. What a totally obnoxious guest he was!
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is she right though?
 Quoting: webbyBird


The bill was written by the insurance companies. Who do you think benefits?
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bsflag

and here is why: I asked then in office Delaware politician Senator Mike Castle in a public forum WHO had written the bill.

His answer:

We don't know who wrote it.

When the crowd gasped, he continued:

We don't know which legislative aides were asked to write it, but that is how all laws of that size are written - by aides who are not named as the actual writers of the bill.

Source: I was there.
 Quoting: beeches


BS to yoS. Aides don't write anything. Lobbyists, be they insurance or petro or pharma or agribiz, write every piece of legislation. Aides may package it, may push back on some portions, but they are provided a Word file by the respective lobbyist with a completely prepared document
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 51965665


I used to work for a state Hospital Association. They would write legislation they wanted to go forward. They had a bunch, at least a dozen, attorneys in a conference room working on bills they wanted to pass. Then when the legislation was nicely written up, they would go to DC and throw a cocktail party for the politicians, lobbyists and aids. I used to do the name tags. Anything with association in the name usually has political pull. The only thing I don't know is how much they pay to get what they want. I never saw the hospital association ask the public their opinion though.
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Re: work desk neighbor behind me is talking UP Obamacare
she is saying that insurance is cheeper now for people who couldnt afford it before...

and that insurance companies can no longer deny anybody for pre-existing.


i thought the whole populace was against obamacare... what dafuq she talkin boutwtf
 Quoting: webbyBird


Fuck, just keep throwing up the deductible part...lol
 Quoting: ~sIcKaNdTwIsTeD~


Yup... the deductible... the premiums... the fact that more people have lost their insurance than have signed up.

Then ask her to name the three branches of government... and when she can't do that, simply state "And this is how obama got elected."
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


Perfect actually, well said!
 Quoting: ~sIcKaNdTwIsTeD~


nice!
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R.P. McMurphy

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Greta Van Susteran has had Rahm Emmanuel's brother (Ezekiel I believe) on her show and it was stated he is one of the authors of the ACA. What a totally obnoxious guest he was!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 31928174


He and his brother ARE the stereotypical jews.

I look at these two maggots and can't help but think to myself... "Adolph, you missed a couple here."
"Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again.

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she is saying that insurance is cheeper now for people who couldnt afford it before...

and that insurance companies can no longer deny anybody for pre-existing.


i thought the whole populace was against obamacare... what dafuq she talkin boutwtf
 Quoting: webbyBird


Fuck, just keep throwing up the deductible part...lol
 Quoting: ~sIcKaNdTwIsTeD~


Yup... the deductible... the premiums... the fact that more people have lost their insurance than have signed up.

Then ask her to name the three branches of government... and when she can't do that, simply state "And this is how obama got elected."
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


Her comeback will be "If the evil business owners would pay a living wage we would not need Obamacare", because she does not know the answer and her job is to parrot the Obama mantra.
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Re: work desk neighbor behind me is talking UP Obamacare
she is saying that insurance is cheeper now for people who couldnt afford it before...

and that insurance companies can no longer deny anybody for pre-existing.


i thought the whole populace was against obamacare... what dafuq she talkin boutwtf
 Quoting: webbyBird


Fuck, just keep throwing up the deductible part...lol
 Quoting: ~sIcKaNdTwIsTeD~


Yup... the deductible... the premiums... the fact that more people have lost their insurance than have signed up.

Then ask her to name the three branches of government... and when she can't do that, simply state "And this is how obama got elected."
 Quoting: R.P. McMurphy


Her comeback will be "If the evil business owners would pay a living wage we would not need Obamacare", because she does not know the answer and her job is to parrot the Obama mantra.
 Quoting: Copperhead


You have identified the weakness, now exploit it.

Just laugh at her when she makes these comments... but first, like I said before, cover your own ass by meeting with a superior about her behavior.

I know this type, and you must protect yourself first. She will bury you if given the opportunity, so don't give it to her.

Use her own words against her. Any HR person in the world is not going to like hearing "If the evil business owners would pay a living wage..."

Last Edited by Mike Ehrmantraut on 01/03/2014 08:27 PM
"Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again.

==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ====
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I went thru the same stuff when camera lights came to my area. I wanted depserately to find one person that thought the scamera lights were a good idea. Maybe I just wanted to see what that kind of idiot looked like.

The problem is same - camera lights and ocare -- both are instances of austerity and both affect the middle and lower class to extremes.

Its austerity and My solution is to produce less, earn less, pay less (to gov), and live a simpler life. Meanwhile, I suspect many are still chasing the American Dream and some are finding that it no longer is attainable. I have tons more time to do the things I enjoy and to spend time with family and friends. I'm finding that money truly is the root of all evil.
Fuck Obamacare - I'll not have it. If would be useless for me to pay high prems in order to have deductable that I could NOT pay. What's the fucking point in that?
The insurance execs and upper tier gov employees will have to find another way to get rich if no one participates. If enugh people participate we are all screwed.
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is she right though?
 Quoting: webbyBird


She may be correct in that this is effectively "spreading the wealth around" like barry promised in 2008.

Some will benefit at the expense of others. But in the end all will suffer as level of care goes down, folks who are expected to carry the financial burden will say screw it and go with out, etc. etc.

It will eventually crash & burn.

If there is any doubt, consider how the Post Office & DMV operate. Models of efficiency? I think not! And now the same ass clowns are in charge of medical care? What could possibly go wrong
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people who can afford it will use private healthcare.
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01/03/2014 09:21 PM
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Re: work desk neighbor behind me is talking UP Obamacare
Guaranteed there are also a ton of negatives associated with this bill. These brain dead obamabots will find out soon enough. Problem is some of these idiots will actually say things like I would be willing to pay more taxes if it would help.





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