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Just wanted to chat about some deep things with some intelligent, well read individuals who enjoy thinking out of the box!

 
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cool thread.
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Thanks! Add some ideas or thoughts if you want!
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So, to start out, just incase anyone wants to play, what do you intend to get out of life, or why do you think we, or you personally, are here?

Or, what are your ideas of life and this and other dimensions, universes, etc?
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hey OP, great idea!! funny, I never thought of doing this here before, even though I enjoy this as well. I'll remember to try this sometimes. thanks. :-) :hf:
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edited. for your further understanding.
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Thanks will check him out hes not new to me i just forgot what he was about
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Gotya. Well that essay is nothing like his books and novels, nor like any other of his essays. Def check it out!
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What was that particular essay called you mentioned the title did you not?
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The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus. you can find it online in audio or readable versions, you do not even need to dl it, but many places you can for free. It is about 100 pages, pretty quick read, but awesomely thought provoking!
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So, to start out, just incase anyone wants to play, what do you intend to get out of life, or why do you think we, or you personally, are here?

Or, what are your ideas of life and this and other dimensions, universes, etc?
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hey OP, great idea!! funny, I never thought of doing this here before, even though I enjoy this as well. I'll remember to try this sometimes. thanks. :-) :hf:
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Thanks! np and take care! Add something if you would like or have the time.
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Ok, once again I am going to actually go watch that new movie now. I will probably check in to bane any assholes, but I hope more people come and share ideas and are not condescending, and add to the convo!
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Thanks will check him out hes not new to me i just forgot what he was about
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Gotya. Well that essay is nothing like his books and novels, nor like any other of his essays. Def check it out!
 Quoting: Patrick Bateman

What was that particular essay called you mentioned the title did you not?
 Quoting: Balloons


The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus. you can find it online in audio or readable versions, you do not even need to dl it, but many places you can for free. It is about 100 pages, pretty quick read, but awesomely thought provoking!
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Just looked it up, 120 pages. It is definitely worth it though if anything like this interests you! I love his view point and how he turns it around into being good, while most people focus on it being bad in a way. Never mind I will not try to quickly explain, read it! :)

Tbh, I have never met anyone who has read it outside of my Existentialism class, and I have asked a lot of people I figured would have, a couple even with ivy league philo grad degrees, lol.
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This movie seems like it is going to be better than I imagined which is awesome because it will kind of deal with some of this thread.

And anon girl, I really was not being mean in any way, I hope you know that, and I am sorry for wording it strangely or how it was to even make you think that!

hf
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This movie seems like it is going to be better than I imagined which is awesome because it will kind of deal with some of this thread.

And anon girl, I really was not being mean in any way, I hope you know that, and I am sorry for wording it strangely or how it was to even make you think that!

hf
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Whereas Plato contained
everything
nonsense, reason, and myth

Our philosophers
contain nothing but nonsense or reason because they have closed their eyes to the rest.
The mole is meditating.
It is Christianity that began
substituting the tragedy of the soul
for contemplation of the world.
But, at least, Christianity referred
to a spiritual nature and thereby preserved a certain fixity.
Quote/



That is close to the philosophers goal, he does not actually admit that they try to prove Gods existence, but something in the heart of philosophers longs for spirituality, they often distance them self from it on purpose to gain friction and momentum, then they bounce back and forth splitting it all and assembling it
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And you're looking for said individuals ...here?
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We are here to find our way back to God.

We were created to be companions to God forever and forever.

We are here to learn to be a citizen in Heaven.

We are here to pro-create and bring all the created souls here and now. We are all here... The Precession of The Eqinox has been completed.

We are that generation that will not see death.
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Hmmmmmmmmmm - yes this is a (hardknocks) school for the spirit, but there are additional factors for this 'special' planet.


I believe that organic life was put forth by the Aeon Sophia or rather her scrambled remnant Gaia - to redeem and re-integrate the Archon imprint she left on the interstellar medium as the result of her unbalanced descent into the material realms - this recovery is being mediated by her Aeon counterpart Christos.


We as smart monkeys (mk III......?) are the final stage in a long process and have finally evolved to a stage where we are able to house and ground the full spectrum of the dissociated inorganic Archon awareness - who are irresistablty drawn to inpinge on the organic world as they seek a connection to source or real life - we have incorporated them as our egomamiac minds art culture civilisation religion rationality etc etc - in fact what most of us consider our selves to be is archonic.

Some of the spectrum seems to be recalcitrant, some irreconcilable and completely hostile - ( hence the whole sin redemption Christianity thing)

TPTB are in bed with a Luciferian element that seeks control of the human race for its own purposes.

Either way everything needs to be grounded into the physical via the humanan race good and evil - for the grand harvest at the end of the age!
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I believe each of us is here, because the world as it is in any certain time would be imperfect without every single soul incarnated at that given time..
There is nothing to achieve and nothing to become - just to be.
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I quoted post about life being an amusement park and seeing 11:11, anyway might as well add my 2 cents.

I've been doing some deep contemplation for the past few months and through my past life experiences, which is not many as I'm only 26, I've come to the conclusion that life is a spiritual journey of sorts.

Everyone is on their own journey to spiritual growth all you have to do is not fuck anyone else's journey up and even help others through theirs if needed.

The goal is spiritual growth through the acquisition of knowledge. Knowledge which is gained by using your brain and soul together through contemplation of past, present and future. Sort of like a parent teacher conference with god.

It seems that the longer you're alive the cherished moments of your past seem more and more brief. This is probably why people are so depressed when they think of the past too much and those who think to the future are optimistic.

That said, life is a absolutely the greatest amusement park conceived. Buckle up and enjoy the rides, just don't be a bad customer!
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I really liked your post. hf

Remembering the good experiences of the past does the opposite of depress me; thinking of the future does. One thing I have learned, and this happened after my dad was diagnosed with a progressive disease, is to live in the now. Worrying/thinking about the future, serves no purpose for me. It may for others, but not me.
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I like it, also, but personally, I wish it were more true than it is, at least to me. Especially the do not be a bad customer part. The most evil and worst customers on Earth, by far, live like gods compared to the rest of us.
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Perhaps those evil/worst customers gain the least spiritual growth in this life and suffer for it in the next life. Sure, they live like gods but this time on earth is so short. Maybe the hardships that evil/bad customers inflict on their victims gives the victims the challenges needed for extreme spiritual growth thus making them great in the next life. Kinda like Yin-Yang maybe? scratching
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There is no grand "meaning" to life.

Your Motus Operandi is to LIVE and LIVE as long and strong as possible. Do you look around in nature and see things give themselves up on purpose? No. Everything strives to live and survive as long as possible.

It was from your ancestors that you were given the capability to live with "meaning". They have allowed you the technological advances to survive this planet and flourish and still have time on your hands for the "meaning".

Food, Water and Shelter are the 3 biggest survival tools and they have practically been handed to you on a silver platter.

What do you do in this spare time "meaning" you have been allowed?



To probe this further, in my mind I have broken down "meaning" into 3 areas that battle for superiority and the 3rd wins most of times.


1. There is an inherent benevolence (some call it an instinct to further the survival of our species) to help your family/fellow man. I think this is the "meaning" most would relay as good.

2. Since for every action, there is an opposite reaction. This goodness seems to be offset by evil (Destruction of our species). Some people make this their "meaning".

3. Of course, most people just "meander" between the two with no clear vision.
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I quoted post about life being an amusement park and seeing 11:11, anyway might as well add my 2 cents.

I've been doing some deep contemplation for the past few months and through my past life experiences, which is not many as I'm only 26, I've come to the conclusion that life is a spiritual journey of sorts.

Everyone is on their own journey to spiritual growth all you have to do is not fuck anyone else's journey up and even help others through theirs if needed.

The goal is spiritual growth through the acquisition of knowledge. Knowledge which is gained by using your brain and soul together through contemplation of past, present and future. Sort of like a parent teacher conference with god.

It seems that the longer you're alive the cherished moments of your past seem more and more brief. This is probably why people are so depressed when they think of the past too much and those who think to the future are optimistic.

That said, life is a absolutely the greatest amusement park conceived. Buckle up and enjoy the rides, just don't be a bad customer!
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I really liked your post. hf

Remembering the good experiences of the past does the opposite of depress me; thinking of the future does. One thing I have learned, and this happened after my dad was diagnosed with a progressive disease, is to live in the now. Worrying/thinking about the future, serves no purpose for me. It may for others, but not me.
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I like it, also, but personally, I wish it were more true than it is, at least to me. Especially the do not be a bad customer part. The most evil and worst customers on Earth, by far, live like gods compared to the rest of us.
 Quoting: Patrick Bateman


Perhaps those evil/worst customers gain the least spiritual growth in this life and suffer for it in the next life. Sure, they live like gods but this time on earth is so short. Maybe the hardships that evil/bad customers inflict on their victims gives the victims the challenges needed for extreme spiritual growth thus making them great in the next life. Kinda like Yin-Yang maybe? scratching
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Hopefully, but that depends on your pov, thanks!
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There is no grand "meaning" to life.

Your Motus Operandi is to LIVE and LIVE as long and strong as possible. Do you look around in nature and see things give themselves up on purpose? No. Everything strives to live and survive as long as possible.

It was from your ancestors that you were given the capability to live with "meaning". They have allowed you the technological advances to survive this planet and flourish and still have time on your hands for the "meaning".

Food, Water and Shelter are the 3 biggest survival tools and they have practically been handed to you on a silver platter.

What do you do in this spare time "meaning" you have been allowed?



To probe this further, in my mind I have broken down "meaning" into 3 areas that battle for superiority and the 3rd wins most of times.


1. There is an inherent benevolence (some call it an instinct to further the survival of our species) to help your family/fellow man. I think this is the "meaning" most would relay as good.

2. Since for every action, there is an opposite reaction. This goodness seems to be offset by evil (Destruction of our species). Some people make this their "meaning".

3. Of course, most people just "meander" between the two with no clear vision.
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Lots of parts of this I agree with! Thanks for sharing!
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And you're looking for said individuals ...here?
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I am not looking for anything further than people to share their ideas or discuss, pretty simple.

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I believe each of us is here, because the world as it is in any certain time would be imperfect without every single soul incarnated at that given time..
There is nothing to achieve and nothing to become - just to be.
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Also a very intellectual way of thinking of the idea or meaning of life! Thanks!
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Whereas Plato contained
everything
nonsense, reason, and myth

Our philosophers
contain nothing but nonsense or reason because they have closed their eyes to the rest.
The mole is meditating.
It is Christianity that began
substituting the tragedy of the soul
for contemplation of the world.
But, at least, Christianity referred
to a spiritual nature and thereby preserved a certain fixity.
Quote/



That is close to the philosophers goal, he does not actually admit that they try to prove Gods existence, but something in the heart of philosophers longs for spirituality, they often distance them self from it on purpose to gain friction and momentum, then they bounce back and forth splitting it all and assembling it
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Some of this is true, but some is not. Many different types of/parts of philosophy, and some do just that.
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There is no grand "meaning" to life.

Your Motus Operandi is to LIVE and LIVE as long and strong as possible. Do you look around in nature and see things give themselves up on purpose? No. Everything strives to live and survive as long as possible.

It was from your ancestors that you were given the capability to live with "meaning". They have allowed you the technological advances to survive this planet and flourish and still have time on your hands for the "meaning".

Food, Water and Shelter are the 3 biggest survival tools and they have practically been handed to you on a silver platter.

What do you do in this spare time "meaning" you have been allowed?



To probe this further, in my mind I have broken down "meaning" into 3 areas that battle for superiority and the 3rd wins most of times.


1. There is an inherent benevolence (some call it an instinct to further the survival of our species) to help your family/fellow man. I think this is the "meaning" most would relay as good.

2. Since for every action, there is an opposite reaction. This goodness seems to be offset by evil (Destruction of our species). Some people make this their "meaning".

3. Of course, most people just "meander" between the two with no clear vision.
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So we are just animals and there is no meaning of life. While totally plausible I just refuse to believe this. There's just too much out there about spirituality to not believe it.

Those tribal people in the amazon cut out of any civilization. These purest uncorrupt by the outside world humans have shaman. Spiritual leaders that believe there is a meaning in life. The fact that there is spirit means there is more beyond this.
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There is no grand "meaning" to life.

Your Motus Operandi is to LIVE and LIVE as long and strong as possible. Do you look around in nature and see things give themselves up on purpose? No. Everything strives to live and survive as long as possible.

It was from your ancestors that you were given the capability to live with "meaning". They have allowed you the technological advances to survive this planet and flourish and still have time on your hands for the "meaning".

Food, Water and Shelter are the 3 biggest survival tools and they have practically been handed to you on a silver platter.

What do you do in this spare time "meaning" you have been allowed?



To probe this further, in my mind I have broken down "meaning" into 3 areas that battle for superiority and the 3rd wins most of times.


1. There is an inherent benevolence (some call it an instinct to further the survival of our species) to help your family/fellow man. I think this is the "meaning" most would relay as good.

2. Since for every action, there is an opposite reaction. This goodness seems to be offset by evil (Destruction of our species). Some people make this their "meaning".

3. Of course, most people just "meander" between the two with no clear vision.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49207649


So we are just animals and there is no meaning of life. While totally plausible I just refuse to believe this. There's just too much out there about spirituality to not believe it.

Those tribal people in the amazon cut out of any civilization. These purest uncorrupt by the outside world humans have shaman. Spiritual leaders that believe there is a meaning in life. The fact that there is spirit means there is more beyond this.
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Yes the post you responded to has a huge base following, it is part of many beliefs. But also like you said, many have lots of spiritual beliefs as ell, well most do. But I do not see hoe the amazon helps your case, in any way, imo it hurts it. But just my thoughts and the other poster's thanks for sharing!

hf
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I have more "life experience" than most others on this board and I don't have a clue what this existence is about.

My intent is to harm no one.

I believe that I am living here and now to witness and record events. In cursive :). A scribe, if you will.

I like to keep things simple, Patrick Bateman. My philosophical leanings are toward the Hermetic.
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So, to start out, just incase anyone wants to play, what do you intend to get out of life, or why do you think we, or you personally, are here?

Or, what are your ideas of life and this and other dimensions, universes, etc?
 Quoting: Patrick Bateman


Me, personally?

To destroy all of these false systems that are built on untruths and/or deceptive manipulation, etc., like "science" and financial systems.

Good enough?


My ideas on other "dimensions" and things cause a lot of butthurt. ;) Not sure if many are ready for any of it.

We live in a world (largely) full of delusional idiots that would rather have their heads buried in the sand, only their heads were more or less forced into that sand by other delusional idiots.


It is quite sad, but very real.
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Squahs "o" ^^ sounds cewl i dont know droog.

Whereas Plato contained
everything
nonsense, reason, and myth

Our philosophers
contain nothing but nonsense or reason because they have closed their eyes to the rest.
The mole is meditating.
It is Christianity that began
substituting the tragedy of the soul
for contemplation of the world.
But, at least, Christianity referred
to a spiritual nature and thereby preserved a certain fixity.
Quote/



That is close to the philosophers goal, he does not actually admit that they try to prove Gods existence, but something in the heart of philosophers longs for spirituality, they often distance them self from it on purpose to gain friction and momentum, then they bounce back and forth splitting it all and assembling it
 Quoting: Balloons
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I'll bite.

First, in the grand scheme of things, we are here for just a short amount of time. In that time, I want to have a positive influence on those around me, and do so in a way that empowers my children and their children to do the same.

Second, the idea of a "programmed" or Matrix type of universe is a fascinating topic to contemplate.
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Nice. Yes, in the scheme of all, our time as we are now, is extraordinarily short.

Matrix type universes are also fun and there will be many more of them out in our universe shortly, due to technology and what not.
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I get a kind of techy mailer which I usually don't read too well, but today I clicked on an article about super-realistic video games. Teaser said something like You Won't Believe This is a Video Game. I spent about 1 minute in that game and bailed out... very grey, super realistic as promised, like in an old junked out factory, the POV whipping around the way things move in video games. I have to tell you, it won't be long until they will creating realities, universes we won't be able to distinguish from this reality (which I think we are all sharing).

For example here's a sensory thing from a couple of months ago from Microsoft:

Tech More: Video Games Xbox One Microsoft
Microsoft Almost Put Smell-O-Vision In The Xbox One Controller [link to www.businessinsider.com]

I remember reading sci-fi from decades ago about people just plugging into these virtual realities and staying there.

The next big drug, the next big porn play, 50 ways to meet your lover.
*********** WaterLily ***********
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Disturb the universe?"
-- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

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“We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”
-- Jorge Luis Borges
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"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring,
and finished it in the middle of the summer."
-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei
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Gotya. Well that essay is nothing like his books and novels, nor like any other of his essays. Def check it out!
 Quoting: Patrick Bateman

What was that particular essay called you mentioned the title did you not?
 Quoting: Balloons


The Myth of Sisyphus by Albert Camus. you can find it online in audio or readable versions, you do not even need to dl it, but many places you can for free. It is about 100 pages, pretty quick read, but awesomely thought provoking!
 Quoting: Patrick Bateman


Just looked it up, 120 pages. It is definitely worth it though if anything like this interests you! I love his view point and how he turns it around into being good, while most people focus on it being bad in a way. Never mind I will not try to quickly explain, read it! :)

Tbh, I have never met anyone who has read it outside of my Existentialism class, and I have asked a lot of people I figured would have, a couple even with ivy league philo grad degrees, lol.
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It used to be rather popular when I was young. Young people read Camus and watched Bergman movies and talked about Sartre but didn't actually read Being and Nothingness, which was really a big mind f*ck anyway and adopted existential ennui as a way to get laid and get high. It was actually pretty depressing.

People don't read as much as they used to, and universities tend to encourage reading analysis and criticism rather than original works.
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" Do I dare
Disturb the universe?"
-- T. S. Elliot, Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock

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“We are as ignorant of the meaning of the dragon as we are of the meaning of the universe.”
-- Jorge Luis Borges
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"Pompey made his preparations for the war at the end of the winter, entered upon it at the commencement of spring,
and finished it in the middle of the summer."
-- Cicero, De Imperio Cn. Pompei
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There is no grand "meaning" to life.

Your Motus Operandi is to LIVE and LIVE as long and strong as possible. Do you look around in nature and see things give themselves up on purpose? No. Everything strives to live and survive as long as possible.

It was from your ancestors that you were given the capability to live with "meaning". They have allowed you the technological advances to survive this planet and flourish and still have time on your hands for the "meaning".

Food, Water and Shelter are the 3 biggest survival tools and they have practically been handed to you on a silver platter.

What do you do in this spare time "meaning" you have been allowed?



To probe this further, in my mind I have broken down "meaning" into 3 areas that battle for superiority and the 3rd wins most of times.


1. There is an inherent benevolence (some call it an instinct to further the survival of our species) to help your family/fellow man. I think this is the "meaning" most would relay as good.

2. Since for every action, there is an opposite reaction. This goodness seems to be offset by evil (Destruction of our species). Some people make this their "meaning".

3. Of course, most people just "meander" between the two with no clear vision.
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So we are just animals and there is no meaning of life. While totally plausible I just refuse to believe this. There's just too much out there about spirituality to not believe it.

Those tribal people in the amazon cut out of any civilization. These purest uncorrupt by the outside world humans have shaman. Spiritual leaders that believe there is a meaning in life. The fact that there is spirit means there is more beyond this.
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It was a very simplistic thought that I put out there. Basically, the meaning of life is to live and flourish.

I do agree we are just animals, with a vastly more complex energy matrix which you call spirituality, some call conscience, some call a third eye, some call it whatever.

If I picture myself in the Amazon with no human intervention, all I have is the animals and nature to guide me. All that I would practically learn is that I am the most intelligent animal on this earth.

What I did with that intelligence is anybody's guess. I'm sure these Amazonian people have a long history, albeit inclusive, that teaches them traditions that include some type of religion or "way" of doing things that has been gleamed through time as "better".

There is also the fact that there are "spirits" out there or however you want to define it. It's a proven fact that things go bump in the night at certain places and time and there are intellectual voices recorded from the dead. What this means, I have no idea right now. Does the fact that an Amazon tribe has recognized the need for a Shaman impact your definition of raison d'tat?



Don't let your definition of meaning make you miss your meaning. The treasure is in the search not the find......we all will die someday and leave a legacy.
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We are god experiencing itself. And the utmost of free will that we choose is to suffer. Because god cannot suffer. So we, god, created this reality to experience that which god cannot experience.
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We are god experiencing itself. And the utmost of free will that we choose is to suffer. Because god cannot suffer. So we, god, created this reality to experience that which god cannot experience.
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Oh, shit, what up stog?

Nice thoughts btw as well, thanks for sharing man!





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