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Can't even go to a F***ing funeral without the pastor making 80% of the time people are there about the church and Christ.

 
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Where will you spend Eternity?

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Entrance into Heaven is not based on what we have done, but on what God has done for us through Jesus Christ. The Bible says that “He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth [remains] on him” (John 3:36). That’s why God sent His Son to take the punishment for our sins, so that we won’t spend eternity in hell separated from Him. “While we were yet sinners, Christ died for us” (Romans 5:8). He willingly took our place, then he rose from the dead three days later.

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It is appointed once to die
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Like Lazarus. Check.


then judgment
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Crisis, actually.
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It is appointed once to die
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Like Lazarus. Check.


then judgment
 Quoting: Visitor 45790907


Crisis, actually.
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You have the same appointment, and like Lazarus the same opportunity to reveive eternal life through JESUS and the power of his resurrection.
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That's because they don't trust God to reach people, and thus take it upon themselves to heroically hammer it into folks before it's supposedly "too late".

sigh
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More like a bunch of yammering to try to manipulate people to go to church and put more money into the Sunday coffers so they can keep their jobs.

They take advantage of grieving people's vulnerabilities and it pisses me off to no end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50985453


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the churches are becoming more empty these days, so the good old pastor in order to keep his job will badger any audience (even at a funeral) to attempt to get new converts & bring in more cash to the coffers. he/she could not care less about the deceased person, it's all about the pastor & his church. Kinda like our government officials & politicians.
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The false churches are filled to the rafters and there is no end to the money if you compromise the message. Few follow after the Truth.
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It is appointed once to die
 Quoting: Visitor 45790907


Like Lazarus. Check.


then judgment
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Crisis, actually.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52621665


You have the same appointment, and like Lazarus the same opportunity to reveive eternal life through JESUS and the power of his resurrection.
 Quoting: Visitor 45790907


I'm already In Christ - I'll go wherever He wants me
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As a family member that just paid $12000 for a funeral, we aren't paying for a sermon... We are paying for services rendered by the funeral home.. Funeral homes are not religious institutions .. Do you get what I'm trying to say? I'm not offended by any religious practice, I fully respect the rights of Christian monuments on public property ect., but I'm pretty sure op was trying to say exactly what I'm thinking... And that is, while yes we wanted our deceased family member's pastor to stand up and speak about her and his relationship with her, and say a prayer or two... I'm not against prayer! But I have been to one too many funerals where these preachers are taking advantage of the situation and using it as a tool for their own conversion plan.. It's almost like an exploitation .. Say a prayer, but don't stand up there and insult half the room that isn't Christian.. I believe in God, I just don't believe in the bible and there are many in a funeral service that feel that way and having a man preach hell fire and brimstone in a funeral home is wrong.
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I don't understand. If your family is paying 12k for a funeral you can't get a preacher that reflects your families' values? Fire and brimstone wouldn't go over in Catholic funeral, but then again Catholics would hire a priest not a Protestant fundamentalist.
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Our family is baptist, he was grandmas baptist preacher for 30+ years.. To be fair he did am awesome job for about 10 min.. She would've been proud, but he just got way too carried away. Had to be there I guess
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When you are someones Pastor for 30 years you have spent hours in prayer with that person. The most important thing to them is the salvation of their family members. The Pastor was probably offering his last services to the benefit of the living, I served a lot of funerals. You can tell when its a homegoing or a roast.
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Fair enough
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Last year we went to my husband's boss' funeral and my husband was livid bc during the service the preacher said something to the effect of "if you ever want to see your friend again, you have to accept jesus.."

sure, we were in church, but is a funeral the best time to do this? when people of many faiths might be attending! NO.

this was a high profile funeral, btw. memorial service with thousands in attendance.
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A funeral is the MOST appropriate time to say this.
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Last year we went to my husband's boss' funeral and my husband was livid bc during the service the preacher said something to the effect of "if you ever want to see your friend again, you have to accept jesus.."

sure, we were in church, but is a funeral the best time to do this? when people of many faiths might be attending! NO.

this was a high profile funeral, btw. memorial service with thousands in attendance.
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A funeral is the MOST appropriate time to say this.
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I can understand if it's a normal funeral, with the relatives and friends, but this was a high profile memorial service with thousands of people, from all sorts of beliefs. NOT the place to tell them they're going to hell.
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Re: Can't even go to a F***ing funeral without the pastor making 80% of the time people are there about the church and Christ.
Just to answer most of the people who felt insulted by my post. 20% of the funeral was about the man who died and his faith that took up about 30-40 mins. the other 2 hours was spent with the pastor trying to get new people to go to this new church, and him telling us we have to become Christian to see him again. and repeatedly was asking everyone to say as he says and would say prayer.

I wouldn't have been so offended if the rest of the time had something to do with the deceased.

and fyi after we all gathered for food and talk and there was a huuuuge amount of people talking about this.
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Fuckwits go to a Church and are annoyed to hear about Christ
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That's because they don't trust God to reach people, and thus take it upon themselves to heroically hammer it into folks before it's supposedly "too late".

sigh
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More like a bunch of yammering to try to manipulate people to go to church and put more money into the Sunday coffers so they can keep their jobs.

They take advantage of grieving people's vulnerabilities and it pisses me off to no end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50985453


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the churches are becoming more empty these days, so the good old pastor in order to keep his job will badger any audience (even at a funeral) to attempt to get new converts & bring in more cash to the coffers. he/she could not care less about the deceased person, it's all about the pastor & his church. Kinda like our government officials & politicians.
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The false churches are filled to the rafters and there is no end to the money if you compromise the message. Few follow after the Truth.
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ALL Churches are false. Jesus did not tell us to build huge buildings (golden calves). Most worship their elaborate building.

Churches are controlled by the Satanic government through their 501(c)3 tax exempt status. They are sold out to Satan.


Christians: Run For Your Life!


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Fuckwits go to a Church and are annoyed to hear about Christ
here's your sign
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you must of not read what I wrote. I can tell your all sorts a filled with the holy spirit.
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I'm not Christian but come on. If God offends you either suck it up for your loved ones or stfu
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I'm not Christian but come on. If God offends you either suck it up for your loved ones or stfu
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I guess you would really have to be there to understand..

what I called selfish was the blatant 2 hour long sales pitch for this new church.

I am a spiritual person i'm not one of those super opinionated easily pissed anti religion kind of person. i'm tolerant

but not when a man side lines the funeral and for two hours talks about the church and guilt trip everyone there into joining Christianity so they can see the deceased.

it was totally fucked up.
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He did instruct them to eat, drink and be merry for the three days he was in the tomb. Not to cry about it and feel guilt in condemnation of sin that church brings to mankind.
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Look at it this way; Church sucks but you gave up 2 hours to pay your final respects. You aren't there for a religious experience, you are saying goodbye.
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Selfish.
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Yes you are very,very selfish. You don't have to believe in any god, but why dip into every other persons understanding of life just because you don't. Grow up, leave it alone.
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I was thinking the exact same thing!
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Went to one about 2 weeks ago and thought the same thing.
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It's a funeral in a church!,,What the fuck do you two retards think is going to happen??

Maybe you could ask the dead guys family to have the funeral at a barbq restaurant or mcdonalds so you don't feel so uncomfortable!

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funeral at McDonalds!!!!


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If you think that's bad, you should go to a Catholic funeral. There isnt even 20% dedicated to the deceased. Just solid standard funeral mass without any eulogy.
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Re: Can't even go to a F***ing funeral without the pastor making 80% of the time people are there about the church and Christ.
That's because they don't trust God to reach people, and thus take it upon themselves to heroically hammer it into folks before it's supposedly "too late".

sigh
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More like a bunch of yammering to try to manipulate people to go to church and put more money into the Sunday coffers so they can keep their jobs.

They take advantage of grieving people's vulnerabilities and it pisses me off to no end.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50985453


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the churches are becoming more empty these days, so the good old pastor in order to keep his job will badger any audience (even at a funeral) to attempt to get new converts & bring in more cash to the coffers. he/she could not care less about the deceased person, it's all about the pastor & his church. Kinda like our government officials & politicians.
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And just how many "new converts" do you think they got at the funerals described by the OP and MrsCrickets? Most likely, he repulsed the majority and will have to give account of that in the judgment.
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I agree with OP. Someone paid good money to have their lost loved one remembered, not come to an advertisement to join the army of dumbasses that believe in adult fairy tales.
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I agree with OP. Someone paid good money to have their lost loved one remembered, not come to an advertisement to join the army of dumbasses that believe in adult fairy tales.
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Jesus said, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me" (John 14:6). Notice that Jesus does not say he will show you the way. He says, "I am the way!"

Jesus also spoke of a narrow road and a wide road. Many walk on that wide road, which in the end is the way of death (see Matthew 7:13).

God's peace fills your heart when you walk in the way of Christ. Jesus said to His followers, "Peace I leave with you; my peace I give you. I do not give to you as the world gives" (John 14:27). God's peace is a gift available to each of us.

When you walk in the way of Christ, you experience an inner peace--tremendous quiet in your heart. The broken pieces in your life are put together again.

The way of life is also the way of purity. The Bible says, "Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God" (Matthew 5:8).

The way of life in Christ is also the way of love. "By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another," Jesus said (John 13:35). The Bible adds, "We know that we have passed from death to life, because we love our brothers" (1 John 3:14).

Today, the word love has been robbed of meaning. It's used to describe a person exploiting the emotions of another for his own satisfaction and selfishness. But that is not love. True love wants the very best for someone no matter what it may cost us.

The way of life is also the way of obedience. The way of the Christian is to serve only one master--Jesus. The Bible describes Him as "Lord of lords and King of kings" (Revelation 17:14). The Christian lives as though this is true. Jesus becomes your Lord, your Master, your King. What He says goes.

The servant of a king waits for the slightest hint of a command, then rushes to obey. A soldier following the leadership of a great commander willingly obeys every order.

Accept Jesus Christ, repent, pray, ask to be filled with the Holy Spirit, study the King James Bible, and take the yoke of Jesus upon you.

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you shouldn't be bothered if God and an afterlife or judgement doesn't exist. So just shut up and let the family have their funeral that was decided and PAID for by them the way THEY want it and be grateful that you are still alive.

it wouldn't hurt you to listen to the message, the gospel or receive God's mercy and guidance ya know.
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As a family member that just paid $12000 for a funeral, we aren't paying for a sermon... We are paying for services rendered by the funeral home.. Funeral homes are not religious institutions .. Do you get what I'm trying to say? I'm not offended by any religious practice, I fully respect the rights of Christian monuments on public property ect., but I'm pretty sure op was trying to say exactly what I'm thinking... And that is, while yes we wanted our deceased family member's pastor to stand up and speak about her and his relationship with her, and say a prayer or two... I'm not against prayer! But I have been to one too many funerals where these preachers are taking advantage of the situation and using it as a tool for their own conversion plan.. It's almost like an exploitation .. Say a prayer, but don't stand up there and insult half the room that isn't Christian.. I believe in God, I just don't believe in the bible and there are many in a funeral service that feel that way and having a man preach hell fire and brimstone in a funeral home is wrong.
 Quoting: MrsCrickets


I don't understand. If your family is paying 12k for a funeral you can't get a preacher that reflects your families' values? Fire and brimstone wouldn't go over in Catholic funeral, but then again Catholics would hire a priest not a Protestant fundamentalist.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22898846


Our family is baptist, he was grandmas baptist preacher for 30+ years.. To be fair he did am awesome job for about 10 min.. She would've been proud, but he just got way too carried away. Had to be there I guess
 Quoting: MrsCrickets


That's understandable. The thing that gets me today, is almost always when people make complaints against "Christians," what they are complaining about is a particular brand of American Protestant Fundamentalism.

I was never comfortable around this type of Christianity, and I suspect its largely because its more Judaism-lite with Jesus, than traditional Christianity.

In contrast, I was and am completely at home in old world Catholicism, which I was raised in New Orleans, but not as a church going Catholic.

This type of Christianity is more of an all-embracing culture rather than a command to believe dogma on the pain of hell. Even years ago, I never remembered threats of hell, and it seemed even the worst people could go to purgatory with eventual redemption.

People could float on the top the culture without any particular commitment, or dip into it for strength and guidance, or even participate in its greater mysteries.

Believe me. Fundamentalist type Christianity and old world Catholicism are like oil and water. In the Catholicism I was raised, religion is a private matter, so the constant bible talk of Pentecostals and Evangelical types was not accepted or welcomed.
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I have left specific instructions that the gospel is to be preached at my funeral. In fact that is the only reason that I would chose to have a memorial service.

What kind of person would I be if I didn't share the good news of Christ one last time, with the people that loved me enough to come to my funeral? After all, I love my family and friends, and I want to see them again on the other side.

I simply want the message to go out and perhaps plant a seed- God will have to do the rest...
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I agree with OP. Someone paid good money to have their lost loved one remembered, not come to an advertisement to join the army of dumbasses that believe in adult fairy tales.
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Well yeah. Perhaps the thing to do is to put a sign up front saying this is a Christian funeral and if Christianity offends you to stay the fu*k out.

I mean seriously. With the bad energy and freakn' evil thoughts atheists bring to any situation, they are the last people I would want around when transiting from material life. If you want to insult my belief, then screw you. Stay away.
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Selfish.
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Well see that's because you went to a F***ing Funeral. If you go to a regular funeral or a G** Da**** funeral, they are not like tht.





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