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ok jeeezzz ffs


$350 final offer for your brokenass horsy

Op have a few beers before you go talk to the SOB cheers

he'll take ya more seriously

have the cash in your hand where he can see it

you'll own that busted up paint horse for less the $400

done deal

cool2
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That is one fine looking colt. He is a baby for one and shouldnt be ridden for another two years. I have raised three and imprinted at birth. The first year of their life they go through awkward growth stages. I see a colt with tremendous potential if you what your doing. A nightmare if you don't.
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& you dont have to cut his nuts out for him to have a normal brain

with some serious training you can have a nice trained & well behaved stallion

just concentrate on that SOB thats asking about $1700 too much
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01/11/2014 09:53 PM
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This one is a smaller horse and already "broke" and way cheaper.. same category and location. Both of the breeds this horse is are good calm strong stable breeds that I'd get if I was going to get a horse. [link to elko.craigslist.org] Riding bareback rules, but if a horse is too tall you can't get on it without a saddle and still may need help. 14h just right
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& you dont have to cut his nuts out for him to have a normal brain

with some serious training you can have a nice trained & well behaved stallion

just concentrate on that SOB thats asking about $1700 too much
 Quoting: Xcalibra


LOL
sheell be right mate
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& you dont have to cut his nuts out for him to have a normal brain

with some serious training you can have a nice trained & well behaved stallion

just concentrate on that SOB thats asking about $1700 too much
 Quoting: Xcalibra


LOL
 Quoting: chowan


its true

ive owned many horses
stallions arent so bad if you give them serious training

just keep them away from other stallions or geldings or they'll jump the fence to try & kill them
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Also, his conformation is not that bad, other than being stunted. His legs and hooves look okay. I'd really want to see a helluva lot of other pictures and a video of him being worked in a round pen. Video of him standing for the farrier.

And everyone who is screaming that he is grossly underweight just do not know horses. His weight at this time is fine. Why does everyone look at his shoulders and think they are ribs?

All that being said, if he is stunted at this age, he'll never grow to full size, and that is super important in the horse world.

He's cute, but needs a horseman to bring him along. Pass on this one, get online and look at lots of Clinton Anderson, Mike Kevil, Larry Trocha videos to help you see what you must learn to own a horse.
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Also, his conformation is not that bad, other than being stunted. His legs and hooves look okay. I'd really want to see a helluva lot of other pictures and a video of him being worked in a round pen. Video of him standing for the farrier.

And everyone who is screaming that he is grossly underweight just do not know horses. His weight at this time is fine. Why does everyone look at his shoulders and think they are ribs?

All that being said, if he is stunted at this age, he'll never grow to full size, and that is super important in the horse world.

He's cute, but needs a horseman to bring him along. Pass on this one, get online and look at lots of Clinton Anderson, Mike Kevil, Larry Trocha videos to help you see what you must learn to own a horse.
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I dont know I know they are not ribs but he still looked scrawney to me and I thought the CL poster was asking an awfull lot of money for a horse that needs a good home.
sheell be right mate
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01/11/2014 10:06 PM
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just a little clarification to anyone who missed it im more interested in a animal I can train as a pack animal not so much a rider.
sheell be right mate
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just a little clarification to anyone who missed it im more interested in a animal I can train as a pack animal not so much a rider.
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Then buy a mule or donkey
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If you are not familiar and/or good with horses you should most definitely pass on this one.

1) He's a STALLION! Very Dangerous if you don't know what you're doing.

2) He's a yearling and probably isn't trained well, even for basic handling.

3) He is underweight and possibly sick.

4) You won't be able to start training him to ride for at least another 2-3 years.

There's more, but hopefully I've made my point.

I agree with others - if you're not an experienced horse person, get an older, very well trained horse.

hf
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This one is a smaller horse and already "broke" and way cheaper.. same category and location. Both of the breeds this horse is are good calm strong stable breeds that I'd get if I was going to get a horse. [link to elko.craigslist.org] Riding bareback rules, but if a horse is too tall you can't get on it without a saddle and still may need help. 14h just right
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52622295


This one would be a great choice. Sturdy with a great temperament and small enough to mount easily.
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Just how dangerous is a stallion who has not has his man parts removed?

Please tell us

Will the horse kick you?
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just a little clarification to anyone who missed it im more interested in a animal I can train as a pack animal not so much a rider.
 Quoting: chowan


Then buy a mule or donkey
 Quoting: Astral Goat


I was looking for a shetland pony when i came across this
and i thought WTF
sheell be right mate
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Jeez. where to start.

First off, answer is NO to this colt. Lots of reasons.
He's still a stallion, so still needs 'brain surgery' as we horse folk call gelding
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He's not quite two, and he's really butt high. Horses do grow at uneven levels, but he's really, really butt high.

He will be ready to start saddle training at age 2 (I prefer 26-30mo), but not for awhile, since he's a '12. He sure doesn't look big enough, and I'd never start one who is that small. His conformation just isn't that great and if this is a recent picture, he's stunted.

People who don't know how to ride/work horses have no business handling a horse. Especially a young horse. Who must be trained. We call these horses after they are broke to ride 'greenbroke'. The combination of a person who doesn't know how to work horses, plus a green horse, we call 'black and blue'.

Sorry. Every one loves a black/white paint. (well, I don't). But he's not that nice for the money. I don't know anything about APHA breeding (I'm AQHA) but that's a lot for an untrained colt. He's not a trained riding horse who has been proven to be steady and well mannered.

The problem with APHA is that lots of folks just breed for color and leave 'sane' and excellent conformation on the wayside. You need a well built horse so it can stay sound for many years without a lot of upkeep.

I appreciate that you want a horse. I promise you that there are suitable horses out there for you. Keep looking... find a well ridden 10 -15 year old gelding who is advertised as a 'husband horse'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14385938


Thanks for all the replys but I had to laugh at this
not cause its wrong its probably right but it made me giggle.
 Quoting: chowan


Yes, dear. I am right. I have 17 horses right outside my door, most of whom I have foaled out. We breed for the performance horse industry, mainly reining, some reined cow horse and cutting.
But I have seen about every kind of horse-caused injury and know of many deaths. I looked for years before I bought a gelding for my young daughter. Horses can be fantastic, but they can also be exceptionally dangerous, sometimes even if you do know what you're doing.
So, your heart is in the right place, but you do need to get educated and know what your responsibility is as a horse owner.

And the sheer fact that this colt hasn't already been gelded is red flags all over. There's no reason he should still be a stud. OH! You should know you need to make sure he's not still a stud because he's cryptorchid. That's about a 2K surgery, and a common reason why a young horse wouldn't already be gelded.
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And, since you say you want a pack animal, might I suggest a llama?

Do a little research and prepare to become infatuated.

Best of everything to you, dear!
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Just how dangerous is a stallion who has not has his man parts removed?

Please tell us

Will the horse kick you?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


Yes, they bite, kick, rear up and strike you. They charge at you and trample you... stallions can have very bad attitudes!

Not only that, but they have a tendency to break down/through fences.

They can be very dangerous especially if you don't know what you're doing.
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Just how dangerous is a stallion who has not has his man parts removed?

Please tell us

Will the horse kick you?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


They can do more than kick. They can stomp you into the ground before you can say crap. They can be very dangerous and unpredictable. Some states have special laws governing their fencing, etc. I've seen horrible, dangerous studs in an electified stall with electric top enclosing their stall, with ears pinned ready to nail you when you walk past.

A friend has a Standardbred stud, and he's the nicest, sweetest horse you'd ever want to meet. Wouldn't want him mad at me though. Horses, like people are different depending on many factors.

One thing that remains constant though, is that a stud isn't a horse for a first time owner or any owner without a lot of experience.

Last Edited by Nine's on 01/11/2014 10:22 PM
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And, since you say you want a pack animal, might I suggest a llama?

Do a little research and prepare to become infatuated.

Best of everything to you, dear!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14385938


Been around a llama it was OK I guess it never did anything wrong I just never trusted it always thought it was going to spit in my eye like a camel

LOL

I have some friends who have had llamas maybee ill look into them as well

thanks
sheell be right mate
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01/11/2014 10:22 PM
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Here's a video of him:

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Just how dangerous is a stallion who has not has his man parts removed?

Please tell us

Will the horse kick you?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


They can do more than kick. They can stomp you into the ground before you can say crap. They can be very dangerous and unpredictable. Some states have special laws governing their fencing, etc. I've seen horrible, dangerous studs in an electified stall with electric top enclosing their stall, with ears pinned ready to nail you when you walk past.

A friend has a Standardbred stud, and he's the nicest, sweetest horse you'd ever want to meet. Wouldn't want him mad at me though. Horses, like people are different depending on many factors.

One thing that remains constant though, is that a stud isn't a horse for a first time owner or any owner without a lot of experience.
 Quoting: Nine's


Also a scared horse CAN throw you and drag you to death or hurt you very badly past repair. People are always surprised when that happens. First thing I was taught about horses though, what scares them and how to make it not happen.
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Here's a video of him:


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52819605

Just saw that. Here's a facebook page:
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

He's been advertised in several horse pubs, that say sale pending.
chowan  (OP)

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01/11/2014 10:30 PM
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Here's a video of him:


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52819605

Just saw that. Here's a facebook page:
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

He's been advertised in several horse pubs, that say sale pending.
 Quoting: Nine's


looks better in the vid still not for me i guess
sheell be right mate
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The video does help his cause, that is for sure.

I think that they have the high price because they are wanting to sell him to someone that will show him and use him as a stud.

hf
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Just how dangerous is a stallion who has not has his man parts removed?

Please tell us

Will the horse kick you?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


if he has his nuts cut he is not a stallion anymore

stallion = male horse with nuts

gelding = male horse with no nuts

they (stallions) can be dangerous if person is not used to horses.

Geldings are usually very calm & pussified babies

mare = female horses that are older & mature (3-4yrs. or older)

filly = young female horses full of spunk & growth but still to young for proper breeding (1 month - 2 yr.old)

fillys & mares are easy handling usually unless totally wild then some serious training is needed
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You know nothing about horses so the first horse you want to get is a 2 year old stud. No. For the love of god, no. The horse will be ruined and you'll be dead. A colt would have to have some seriously incredible bloodlines for me to entertain the idea of paying 2 grand.(In other words, I'd never ever pay that much for a companion horse.) You need an older dead broke gelding or mare that will put up with anything. Have you considered the cost of owning a horse? Hay, special feed if needed, farrier, vet care (my vet never seems to leave without giving me a bill over $350), training, fencing, housing, tack (you can't just go out and buy any old saddle, It has to fit you AND the horse.) You have a lot of factors and researching to do before you even begin to look at horses. Good luck!
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Been a horse person my whole life

Don't jump in
Big responsibility and lots of money
Horses are expensive

Just remember
What a rich man owns..
A poor man can rent.

Rent a horse first
See how that goes

Just my 2 cents
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Jeez. where to start.

First off, answer is NO to this colt. Lots of reasons.
He's still a stallion, so still needs 'brain surgery' as we horse folk call gelding
.

He's not quite two, and he's really butt high. Horses do grow at uneven levels, but he's really, really butt high.

He will be ready to start saddle training at age 2 (I prefer 26-30mo), but not for awhile, since he's a '12. He sure doesn't look big enough, and I'd never start one who is that small. His conformation just isn't that great and if this is a recent picture, he's stunted.

People who don't know how to ride/work horses have no business handling a horse. Especially a young horse. Who must be trained. We call these horses after they are broke to ride 'greenbroke'. The combination of a person who doesn't know how to work horses, plus a green horse, we call 'black and blue'.

Sorry. Every one loves a black/white paint. (well, I don't). But he's not that nice for the money. I don't know anything about APHA breeding (I'm AQHA) but that's a lot for an untrained colt. He's not a trained riding horse who has been proven to be steady and well mannered.

The problem with APHA is that lots of folks just breed for color and leave 'sane' and excellent conformation on the wayside. You need a well built horse so it can stay sound for many years without a lot of upkeep.

I appreciate that you want a horse. I promise you that there are suitable horses out there for you. Keep looking... find a well ridden 10 -15 year old gelding who is advertised as a 'husband horse'.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14385938


Thanks for all the replys but I had to laugh at this
not cause its wrong its probably right but it made me giggle.
 Quoting: chowan


Yes, dear. I am right. I have 17 horses right outside my door, most of whom I have foaled out. We breed for the performance horse industry, mainly reining, some reined cow horse and cutting.
But I have seen about every kind of horse-caused injury and know of many deaths. I looked for years before I bought a gelding for my young daughter. Horses can be fantastic, but they can also be exceptionally dangerous, sometimes even if you do know what you're doing.
So, your heart is in the right place, but you do need to get educated and know what your responsibility is as a horse owner.

And the sheer fact that this colt hasn't already been gelded is red flags all over. There's no reason he should still be a stud. OH! You should know you need to make sure he's not still a stud because he's cryptorchid. That's about a 2K surgery, and a common reason why a young horse wouldn't already be gelded.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14385938


This^^^^^^ He knows exactly what he is talking about.

That colt is way overpriced and no way it should still be a stud. Looks wormy to me also. Absolutely nothing special about him to warrant that price.
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Can a stallion be broken without castration?
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Can a stallion be broken without castration?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


Yes, but it takes a professional that knows what they are doing.
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