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chowan  (OP)

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01/11/2014 10:44 PM
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You know nothing about horses so the first horse you want to get is a 2 year old stud. No. For the love of god, no. The horse will be ruined and you'll be dead. A colt would have to have some seriously incredible bloodlines for me to entertain the idea of paying 2 grand.(In other words, I'd never ever pay that much for a companion horse.) You need an older dead broke gelding or mare that will put up with anything. Have you considered the cost of owning a horse? Hay, special feed if needed, farrier, vet care (my vet never seems to leave without giving me a bill over $350), training, fencing, housing, tack (you can't just go out and buy any old saddle, It has to fit you AND the horse.) You have a lot of factors and researching to do before you even begin to look at horses. Good luck!
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Thanks yes thats what i figured
sheell be right mate
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Can a stallion be broken without castration?
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Yes, but it takes a professional that knows what they are doing.
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Do they beat the horse though?
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01/11/2014 10:47 PM
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Can a stallion be broken without castration?
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Yes, but it takes a professional that knows what they are doing.
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Do they beat the horse though?
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It can be done humanely, but like I said the trainer needs to be a professional that really knows how to work with stallions.
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01/11/2014 10:48 PM
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VET CHECK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and return clause in bill of sale....many things could be wrong...
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01/11/2014 10:50 PM
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Can a stallion be broken without castration?
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Yes, but it takes a professional that knows what they are doing.
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Do they beat the horse though?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


I practice Clinton Anderson style natural horsemanship. That means my horses aren't hit, kicked, whipped, spurred, etc. My trainer has a stud trained the same way and is the most well behaved horse on his property.
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01/11/2014 11:17 PM
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Can a stallion be broken without castration?
 Quoting: Astral Goat


of course

one of the best horses i ever had was a huge black stallion almost 18 hands high

massive in size

broke his leg one day when he got older & I had to have him shot - i had no choice

took a long time to have him trained proper but in the end he was the best ever

during the years though he destroyed a lot of barns & other horses on his road to becoming the best behaved stallion ever
Nine's

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01/11/2014 11:19 PM
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Just how dangerous is a stallion who has not has his man parts removed?

Please tell us

Will the horse kick you?
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They can do more than kick. They can stomp you into the ground before you can say crap. They can be very dangerous and unpredictable. Some states have special laws governing their fencing, etc. I've seen horrible, dangerous studs in an electified stall with electric top enclosing their stall, with ears pinned ready to nail you when you walk past.

A friend has a Standardbred stud, and he's the nicest, sweetest horse you'd ever want to meet. Wouldn't want him mad at me though. Horses, like people are different depending on many factors.

One thing that remains constant though, is that a stud isn't a horse for a first time owner or any owner without a lot of experience.
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Also a scared horse CAN throw you and drag you to death or hurt you very badly past repair. People are always surprised when that happens. First thing I was taught about horses though, what scares them and how to make it not happen.
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For sure. Even when you know what scares them, there's an occasional horse that has ghosts in his mind that we can't see, or know when they'll appear. LOL.
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01/11/2014 11:23 PM
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I never used saddles or pads because I coudn't stand them. You can steer with your feet. I never got this far (never did it without the bridal) but I wanted to. Fucking dream ride and how it should be (to purists) this is an awesome video hf
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01/11/2014 11:24 PM
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Here's a video of him:


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Just saw that. Here's a facebook page:
[link to www.facebook.com (secure)]

He's been advertised in several horse pubs, that say sale pending.
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looks better in the vid still not for me i guess
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Hope you find exactly what you're looking for that will be a long time loved companion. hf
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01/12/2014 12:00 AM
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I never used saddles or pads because I coudn't stand them. You can steer with your feet. I never got this far (never did it without the bridal) but I wanted to. Fucking dream ride and how it should be (to purists) this is an awesome video hf

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More info on leg steering
[link to www.equestrianlife.com]
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01/12/2014 12:14 AM
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Jeez. where to start.

First off, answer is NO to this colt. Lots of reasons.
He's still a stallion, so still needs 'brain surgery' as we horse folk call gelding.

He's not quite two, and he's really butt high. Horses do grow at uneven levels, but he's really, really butt high.

He will be ready to start saddle training at age 2 (I prefer 26-30mo), but not for awhile, since he's a '12. He sure doesn't look big enough, and I'd never start one who is that small. His conformation just isn't that great and if this is a recent picture, he's stunted.

People who don't know how to ride/work horses have no business handling a horse. Especially a young horse. Who must be trained. We call these horses after they are broke to ride 'greenbroke'. The combination of a person who doesn't know how to work horses, plus a green horse, we call 'black and blue'.

Sorry. Every one loves a black/white paint. (well, I don't). But he's not that nice for the money. I don't know anything about APHA breeding (I'm AQHA) but that's a lot for an untrained colt. He's not a trained riding horse who has been proven to be steady and well mannered.

The problem with APHA is that lots of folks just breed for color and leave 'sane' and excellent conformation on the wayside. You need a well built horse so it can stay sound for many years without a lot of upkeep.

I appreciate that you want a horse. I promise you that there are suitable horses out there for you. Keep looking... find a well ridden 10 -15 year old gelding who is advertised as a 'husband horse'.
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^^^THIS^^^
SweetLilTT

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01/12/2014 03:42 PM
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I've had horses all of my life. If the horse looks as sickly as you say it does, it probably is. It will take an experienced horse person, lots of feed, patience, most likely worming and veterinary calls to get that animal back to a state of good health. That could take months, or even years. If you are getting a horse for the first time, I'd strongly advise you to get a healthy, older, "dead-broke" horse. Don't try to nurse a sickly horse back to health unless you're experienced with horses in general.
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THIS. Plus pretend you are interested in the horse, get contact info AND location and REPORT it to authories. Neglect is illegal in most states.
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Yes, yes, yes!!!
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