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Anonymous Coward User ID: 42323413 United States 01/12/2014 12:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For Almighty God is the God of the living! Not the god of the sleeping or of dead carcasses buried out in a hole somewhere. When the flesh dies you're done with it. Those elements used to make up your flesh are recycled into other flesh bodies. There are carbon in that cheeseburger you ate yesterday that could have been used in a flesh mans body 3000 years ago. Are you gonna fight with that man of those carbon molecules at the resurrection? Of course your not cause you are done with them! All have spiritual bodies they inhabit when the flesh dies. It just that some are still liable to be destroyed by God after judgment which isn't for another 1000+ years out. The dead in Christ have already gone back to Him. Immediately they go! |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 50603749 United Kingdom 01/13/2014 06:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments. Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME This part's correct, but there's no "going away" involved. Those who qualify are needed here on earth. Those who will be needed on earth will be all those who repent, once the Rapture has taken place, and make up the Church of the Millennium. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27298806 United Kingdom 01/13/2014 06:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments. Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME This part's correct, but there's no "going away" involved. Those who qualify are needed here on earth. Those who will be needed on earth will be all those who repent, once the Rapture has taken place, and make up the Church of the Millennium. Screw the "church" - think bigger. Please explain further. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52621665 United States 01/13/2014 08:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52621665 This part's correct, but there's no "going away" involved. Those who qualify are needed here on earth. Those who will be needed on earth will be all those who repent, once the Rapture has taken place, and make up the Church of the Millennium. Screw the "church" - think bigger. Please explain further. The time for christians to be thinking in terms of Us vs. Them is over. God has invested in the redemption of all mankind, not just the laborers who showed up early. He isn't going to light the candle only to remove it from the place where it's needed most. If the heirs receive the resurrected body of Christ, they'll be perfectly suited to do His work worldwide, including the "greater works" He spoke of. There's a lot of injustice to sort out and ills to remedy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27298806 United Kingdom 01/13/2014 09:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME Those who will be needed on earth will be all those who repent, once the Rapture has taken place, and make up the Church of the Millennium. Screw the "church" - think bigger. Please explain further. The time for christians to be thinking in terms of Us vs. Them is over. God has invested in the redemption of all mankind, not just the laborers who showed up early. He isn't going to light the candle only to remove it from the place where it's needed most. If the heirs receive the resurrected body of Christ, they'll be perfectly suited to do His work worldwide, including the "greater works" He spoke of. There's a lot of injustice to sort out and ills to remedy. You don't seem to understand that this physical realm is governed by the the spirit realm. All the wickedness practised by men and women all over the world, doesn't actually originate from them. They are being inspired by fallen angels. This is why the Word tells us: "...we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age,against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." [Eph.6:12] This spiritual realm is where all the action is!!! Once the spiritual realm is sorted out love,joy and peace will reign on earth. All those who receive glorified bodies are not ascending up into the heavens to sit on clouds and do nothing for the rest of eternity! They're ascending into the heavens to displace the "rulers of darkness" and "hosts of wickedness" and THEN inspire the human race with love, joy and peace. This is what judging the world and angels actually entails. It can't be done until we receive our glorified bodies. "Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels?" [1Cor.6:2,3] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 9374299 United States 01/13/2014 09:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would be careful. The Rabbi was a Kabbalist. This is an occult practice rooted in ancient Babylon times. His prophecy of the coming of the Messiah *could* very well be a prophecy of the coming of Antichrist. As the Bible says, the man of sin (antichrist) will come first. Make sure everything lines up according to scripture. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47092754 believers should be watching either way. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 26910250 United Kingdom 01/13/2014 10:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I noticed you only quoted half the verse. “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn" [Matt.13:30] It's so important you understand how the above verse is lived out in the world today. As men and women live out their lives day in day out with total disregard for the Lord's commandments, they are being bound or grouped together to be rejected as unfit for the Lord's kingdom. This is what is now taking place first! Notice the above verse says "bind them in bundles to burn them" Which means there's a time lap between the binding into bundles and the burning of the tares. The actual "burning" will begin on the very Day the wheat [that is the saints] are gathered into the barn. Which literally means the very Day all the saints receive their glorified bodies and ascend up into heaven. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26910250 United Kingdom 01/13/2014 10:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The reason everyone says you can't know the day is a lack of understanding of Jewish culture. Quoting: rod777 The great one day was actually 2 days (24 hour periods) in which Jesus could say no one knows the day. Since you would ask which of the 2 days, being combined would be "THE DAY" when the high priest blew the trumpet! rosh hashana the day no man knows. This is not what the Bible teaches. Christians really need to stop mixing Jewish traditions with the understanding ONLY the Holy Spirit can give. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 39972107 United States 01/13/2014 10:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I noticed you only quoted half the verse. “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn" [Matt.13:30] It's so important you understand how the above verse is lived out in the world today. As men and women live out their lives day in day out with total disregard for the Lord's commandments, they are being bound or grouped together to be rejected as unfit for the Lord's kingdom. This is what is now taking place first! Notice the above verse says "bind them in bundles to burn them" Which means there's a time lap between the binding into bundles and the burning of the tares. The actual "burning" will begin on the very Day the wheat [that is the saints] are gathered into the barn. Which literally means the very Day all the saints receive their glorified bodies and ascend up into heaven. In your opinion, when two are working in the field, and one is taken, will the taken one be wicked or righteous? Because I've got a verse right here that says all that offend will be plucked out? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52621665 United States 01/13/2014 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't seem to understand that this physical realm is governed by the the spirit realm. All the wickedness practised by men and women all over the world, doesn't actually origin from them. Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME They are being inspired by fallen angels. This is why the Word tells us: "...we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age,against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places." [Eph.6:12] This spiritual realm is where all the action is!!! Once the spiritual realm is sorted out love,joy and peace will reign on earth. All those who receive glorified bodies are not ascending up into the heavens to sit on clouds and do nothing for the rest of eternity! They're ascending into the heavens to displace the "rulers of darkness" and "hosts of wickedness" and THEN inspire the human race with love, joy and peace. This is what judging the world and angels actually entails. It can't be done until we receive our glorified bodies. "Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world will be judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest matters? Do you not know that we shall judge angels?" [1Cor.6:2,3] Fair enough - that's a lot better than the "escape" mentality of most Rapturists |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52621665 United States 01/13/2014 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments. Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME This part's correct, but there's no "going away" involved. Those who qualify are needed here on earth. If I might offer a slight rebuttal: The Faithful Church 7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write, ‘These things says He who is holy, He who is true, “He who has the key of David, He who opens and no one shuts, and shuts and no one opens”:[c] 8 “I know your works. See, I have set before you an open door, and no one can shut it;[d] for you have a little strength, have kept My word, and have not denied My name. 9 Indeed I will make those of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but lie—indeed I will make them come and worship before your feet, and to know that I have loved you. 10 Because you have kept My command to persevere, I also will keep you from the hour of trial which shall come upon the whole world, to test those who dwell on the earth. 11 Behold,[e] I am coming quickly! Hold fast what you have, that no one may take your crown. 12 He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more. I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name. 13 “He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches.”’ Fair enough |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27298806 United Kingdom 01/13/2014 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I noticed you only quoted half the verse. “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn" [Matt.13:30] It's so important you understand how the above verse is lived out in the world today. As men and women live out their lives day in day out with total disregard for the Lord's commandments, they are being bound or grouped together to be rejected as unfit for the Lord's kingdom. This is what is now taking place first! Notice the above verse says "bind them in bundles to burn them" Which means there's a time lap between the binding into bundles and the burning of the tares. The actual "burning" will begin on the very Day the wheat [that is the saints] are gathered into the barn. Which literally means the very Day all the saints receive their glorified bodies and ascend up into heaven. In your opinion, when two are working in the field, and one is taken, will the taken one be wicked or righteous? Because I've got a verse right here that says all that offend will be plucked out? The righteous are taken and the wicked are left. "Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.[Matt.24:40-42] The rightous are not watching to be left! They are watching to be taken. Once the righteous are taken THEN the "burning" of the wicked can begin. "The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth." [Matt.13:41-43] All those who repent on earth AFTER they see what is happening to the wicked all around them, will begin a new glolden Age of love, joy and peace on earth. |
rod777 User ID: 46916034 United States 01/14/2014 01:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO YOU Explain it then... The reason everyone says you can't know the day is a lack of understanding of Jewish culture. Quoting: rod777 The great one day was actually 2 days (24 hour periods) in which Jesus could say no one knows the day. Since you would ask which of the 2 days, being combined would be "THE DAY" when the high priest blew the trumpet! rosh hashana the day no man knows. This is not what the Bible teaches. Christians really need to stop mixing Jewish traditions with the understanding ONLY the Holy Spirit can give. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 26910250 United Kingdom 01/14/2014 02:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | SO YOU Explain it then... Quoting: rod777 The reason everyone says you can't know the day is a lack of understanding of Jewish culture. Quoting: rod777 The great one day was actually 2 days (24 hour periods) in which Jesus could say no one knows the day. Since you would ask which of the 2 days, being combined would be "THE DAY" when the high priest blew the trumpet! rosh hashana the day no man knows. This is not what the Bible teaches. Christians really need to stop mixing Jewish traditions with the understanding ONLY the Holy Spirit can give. "I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s Day, and I heard behind me a loud voice, as of a trumpet, saying, “I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last..." [Rev.1:10,11] This Feast marks the Day when millions of men, women from all over the world, will read the Word of God at the same time. This will begin in the very Month the Antichrist will be removed from power. "Now all the people gathered together as one man in the open square that was in front of the Water Gate; and they told Ezra the scribe to bring the Book of the Law of Moses, which the Lord had commanded Israel. So Ezra the priest brought the Law before the assembly of men and women and all who could hear with understanding on the first day of the seventh month. Then he read from it in the open square that was in front of the Water Gate from morning until midday, before the men and women and those who could understand; and the ears of all the people were attentive to the Book of the Law."[Neh.8:1-3] The reading of the Word all over the World for three hours [0900-Noon] is going to be the norm on the 1st Day of 7th Month in the Ages to come. Stick to the Word and forget the Jewish traditions. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 16875559 United States 01/14/2014 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I noticed you only quoted half the verse. “First gather together the tares and bind them in bundles to burn them, but gather the wheat into my barn" [Matt.13:30] It's so important you understand how the above verse is lived out in the world today. As men and women live out their lives day in day out with total disregard for the Lord's commandments, they are being bound or grouped together to be rejected as unfit for the Lord's kingdom. This is what is now taking place first! Notice the above verse says "bind them in bundles to burn them" Which means there's a time lap between the binding into bundles and the burning of the tares. The actual "burning" will begin on the very Day the wheat [that is the saints] are gathered into the barn. Which literally means the very Day all the saints receive their glorified bodies and ascend up into heaven. In your opinion, when two are working in the field, and one is taken, will the taken one be wicked or righteous? Because I've got a verse right here that says all that offend will be plucked out? The righteous are taken and the wicked are left. "Then two men will be in the field: one will be taken and the other left.Two women will be grinding at the mill: one will be taken and the other left. Watch therefore, for you do not know what hour your Lord is coming.[Matt.24:40-42] The rightous are not watching to be left! They are watching to be taken. Once the righteous are taken THEN the "burning" of the wicked can begin. "The Son of Man will send out His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom all things that offend, and those who practice lawlessness,and will cast them into the furnace of fire. There will be wailing and gnashing of teeth." [Matt.13:41-43] All those who repent on earth AFTER they see what is happening to the wicked all around them, will begin a new glolden Age of love, joy and peace on earth. So you think that those of us who teach and feed others the meat of Gods word that might keep you safe right in the middle of the tribulation of satan are wicked and are not watching? All you have is some rapture salvation milk to watch and be soothsayed with. We see all too we what is going on. We are watching you preparing to harlot yourselves off to satan. Those virgins that had not enough oil. Don't come to my house for oil bringing doctrines not of Christ in that evil time. My lips will be sealed as instructed (can you find that instruction?) but Instead will leave my door closed at that time so the only place you might find oil is from those that sell freely in the midst of satans revival. You better gird yourself in the truth of Gods Word Christian. There is no time left to simply play church. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37731175 United Kingdom 01/14/2014 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | the rapture could occur sometime in the middle to late, as late as 9-25-2015 i believe. Quoting: chipg we are waiting on the anti christ to be revealed which could be on the first blood moon of this year, just a guess. the scorpions things could be stinging people between the 3 and four blood moons, those 5 months between then or 4-4-2015 and 9-25-2015 again a guess followed by the rapture... The Antichrist has already been revealed! He's in the Whitehouse! Don't be like the Pharisees in reverse. They were waiting for the Messiah when all the while He was standing right in front of them! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20063521 United Kingdom 01/15/2014 12:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All those in the World today who acknowledge Jesus Christ as their Lord and God and are living according to the truths of His Word, are the firstfruits of His creatures. "Of His own will He [Jesus] brought us forth by the word of truth, that we might be a kind of firstfruits of His creatures.[James 1:18] This means before the earth can be renewed, the Lord is going to give glorified bodies to all those who have His firstfruits in them. "For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God...the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body."[Rom.8:19,21-23] The Holy Spirit proceeds or radiates from the glorified body of Jesus Christ that's why the Lord didn't give the Holy Spirit to His disciples until, after His resurrection, on Sunday the 5th of April 33 AD, on Firstfruits [The 16th Day of the 1st Month Year 33] For on that Day He, "...breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit." [John 20:22] "...this He spoke concerning the Spirit, whom those believing in Him would receive; for the Holy Spirit was not yet given, because Jesus was not yet glorified." [John 7:39] "Then He [Jesus] said to Thomas, “Reach your finger here, and look at My hands; and reach your hand here, and put it into My side. Do not be unbelieving, but believing.” And Thomas answered and said to Him [Jesus], “My Lord and my God!” [John 20:27,28] Our firstfruits are from the Lord Jesus Christ, and he's going to use them to resurrect [those who have died] and translate [those of us who are alive]us, I believe, on the Day of firstfruits. That's why we read, "Christ is risen from the dead, and has become the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep." [1Cor.15:20] All those who died as believers, died with the firstfruits of Jesus Christ in them. They are therefore waiting for the Day of firstfruits to be resurrected! In Paul's Day the saints were called firstfruits of the city they lived in. Achaia, a city in Greece, had many firstfruits in it and that's why Paul wrote: "...you know the household of Stephanas, that it is the firstfruits of Achaia, and that they have devoted themselves to the ministry of the saints." [1Cor.15:16] And again: "Greet my beloved Epaenetus, who is the firstfruits of Achaia to Christ." [Rom.16:5] In the same way, the Lord has His firstfruits in cities all over the World today! There are the firstfruits of London, the firstfruits of New York, the firstfruits of Berlin, the firstfruits of California and so on. On Firstfruits, which fell on Sunday the 5th of April 33 the Lord rose from grave. On the very same Day the Lord also raised from the grave many saints "...many bodies of the saints who had fallen asleep were raised and coming out of the graves after His resurrection..." [Matt.27:52,53] It's not a stretch to assume the Lord will raise from the grave once again, on Firstfruits, all the saints who have the firstfruits of His Spirit! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 50603749 United Kingdom 01/18/2014 01:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | January 16 2014 Quoting: Intruth 3 month warning signs What happened on this date? Lightning struck the Statue of Christ in Brazil breaking off the tip of the right index finger. 2 huge fireballs estimated at over 1000 tons flew over the Red Sea. That's very interesting! If this is indeed the Year of the Rapture, within the next three Months, we can expect more and more signs in the heavens. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53397740 United Kingdom 01/26/2014 09:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Below is a vivid dream that a Brother in Christ had of the rapture. In the year 1994, one night I had a dream. In the dream, I am walking along with a very close friend of mine on the road near my clinic. Nothing spectacular happening. The usual buzz of people going about their businesses and traffic plying by. We seemed to be discussing some recent events in our lives, enjoying the good sunny weather as we walked along. We both had umbrellas to shield us from the slight drizzle that ensued. Suddenly it started getting dark. Still walking along we did not seem to be disturbed by the rain as it was very mild;but the darkness seemed to be getting worse. A very strange fear gripped me as the darkness increased. My steps faltered. I told my friend,"I feel something terrible is going to happen.""I can’t go any further."My friend reassured me,"Why do you worry? The Lord is with us."The darkness not only increased but there were lightnings and thunders. Never in my lifetime had I heard such thunders. It was terrible. It almost seemed to break my back. My friends’ poise renewed my inner being. He said,"Come, let’s praise the Lord. No evil will befall us. The lightnings were now striking very near us."Despite the terrifying atmosphere, we started praising the Lord whole-heartedly and took giant strides forward."Praise The Lord, Praise The Lord"we shouted in unison. And then it happened. In a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, a huge lightning came right up to us and sucked us up into the skies. As we ascended into the skies, unspeakable joy filled our hearts. We were still praising the Lord. And there the dream ended. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 56336651 Canada 04/01/2014 08:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way some Christians view the entire rapture thing is a bit twisted. What if Christ used a spacecraft to beam people up to his own ship? Some of you are aliens and you know this to be true. You have beam ships that can send you up. Some Christians have been fed this rapture nonsense, they picture Christ using some divine power to lift them up, but he'll most likely use beam ships. Why would God need a space craft? Why not? Why would he need a man to atone for the sins of people? Same reason he would use a spoon to feed himself a tasty mean, because he CAN! Anyway, OP...thanks for sharing. The rapture thing is not something where everyone is left behind. That is just stupid. Salvation is for Jews and that still needs to be taken care of. Their (Jews) hearts are no longer as hardened, and Christ's return will be like a thief in the night; and later all will realize he's been here all along. How will you know how is the real Christ? Resurrection of the dead is the first sign that should tell you who is the real messiah. If your messiah claims he can "spiritually" resurrect people or use technology to clone people, that's a false one. The true one will resurrect the dead from ashes or from the ground (or from nothing). All without wanting power, lust, or control over those he resurrects. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40874445 United States 04/01/2014 10:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Lord has promised in His Word to resurrect and give glorified bodies to all those who love Him by keeping His commandments. Quoting: INTHELORDSNAME This part's correct, but there's no "going away" involved. Those who qualify are needed here on earth. Those who will be needed on earth will be all those who repent, once the Rapture has taken place, and make up the Church of the Millennium. nay, the poster above is entirely correct and it is what it will be accordingly there will likewise be no rapture not a legitimate one at any rate |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40874445 United States 04/01/2014 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The way some Christians view the entire rapture thing is a bit twisted. What if Christ used a spacecraft to beam people up to his own ship? Some of you are aliens and you know this to be true. You have beam ships that can send you up. Some Christians have been fed this rapture nonsense, they picture Christ using some divine power to lift them up, but he'll most likely use beam ships. Why would God need a space craft? Why not? Why would he need a man to atone for the sins of people? Same reason he would use a spoon to feed himself a tasty mean, because he CAN! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56336651 Anyway, OP...thanks for sharing. The rapture thing is not something where everyone is left behind. That is just stupid. Salvation is for Jews and that still needs to be taken care of. Their (Jews) hearts are no longer as hardened, and Christ's return will be like a thief in the night; and later all will realize he's been here all along. How will you know how is the real Christ? Resurrection of the dead is the first sign that should tell you who is the real messiah. If your messiah claims he can "spiritually" resurrect people or use technology to clone people, that's a false one. The true one will resurrect the dead from ashes or from the ground (or from nothing). All without wanting power, lust, or control over those he resurrects. if schmiff... as Ezekiel tries to make clear the Lord did show Himself to the prophet at the river Chebar and at that time He was in what we would reference as an unidentified flying object accordingly Ezekiel had a good deal of trouble attempting to describe the mode of transport of the Lord at that point in time if you will recall, as he had seen no form of transport at that point in time save for an ox-cart and the like that does in nowise infer that those of the fallen of the Heavenly host do not also utilize that same type of transport, and one would do well to remember that fact |
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