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Death With Dignity and why TPTB Promote Religion and Discourage Suicide

 
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How about people get to have pain control while they are dying-without being knocked off in the process?

Bring back Brompton's Cocktail.
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I couldn't read it to the end, I got really disgusted by the OP. I knew a girl who jumped out of her window because she broke up with her boyfriend. Is it normal? Is it good? NO!!!!

Religion teaches that no matter what happens you must be strong and live through the difficulties. ´People commit suicide nowadays because of stupid things. Suicide rates are too high. And I'm not even talking what the loved ones feel while losing a dear person.


Psychiatry is the most evil institution on Earth. You are sad? You are ill, let's call this illness depression. Oh you want to kill yourself? Here, have these pills, they make you more suicidal.

And this is how our medical institutions HELP suicidal people? Yeah, go on with your story how TPTB discourages suicide.

I feel sorry for the doctors who became doctors to help humans and put years to learn how to do it, now they have to murder people instead.


whatever
 Quoting: shyrlymyrly


Frankly, I admire people who are able to overcome their base instinct of self-preservation. It takes amazing courage and strength to pack it in, no matter the catalyst for such an extreme decision.
 Quoting: Upgrayedd


Wouldn't it take MORE courage and strength to deal with the problem rather than giving up?
 Quoting: SingleCellOrganism


Who are you, as a random stranger, to decide how much courage and strength someone has to have, or whether it takes more courage and strength to live or die or whether courage and strength are even characteristics that a soul must embody?

Who is anyone to tell another sentient soul that they have to or even should keep trudging through and existence that is nothing but pain and torture to them?

Who is society to tell people they are better off medicated and poisoned and zombified as cogs in a machine that they despise than dead?

Who are doctors and lawmakers and politicians to tell people that they must keep breathing, that convicted criminals are deserving of a better, cleaner death?

Who are you to tell your family member or friend that they should have to live a life of physical/emotional pain to spare YOU the emotional pain of their death?

What makes choosing to suffer a life you hate morally superior to choosing a painless, quick death?

What answers can you give that don't center around your religious beliefs or your idea that YOU should be spared the pain of someone's demise while THEY live a life of suffering???

I stand by my convictions - I don't think ANY soul should have to continue living a life they don't want to live. I think the constructs of our society exist to keep people in fear of death, in fear of eternal punishment, so that they will remain good, scared little worker/slaves to their government/religious masters.

Prove me wrong.
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"Know ye not that ye are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man destroyeth the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, and such are ye."

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
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spoken like a fucken sheepcoward

never developed a critical thinking brain to be able to articulate your own statement

baaaaaaaa... baaaaaaaa...

...somebody told me I have a god to worship, im not aloud to think"

baaaaaaa... bible, bible, bible, baaaaaaaaaa
sheep
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Religions are actually a much needed opposing force to the state, without them, the world would be reduced to a utilitarian hell-hole.

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baaaaaaa... bible, bible, bible, baaaaaaaaaa
sheep
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Driving people to suicide by denying them decent pain control, as we do now, is murder. My belief.
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Doctors should heal people, not kill people.
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Doctors don't have to kill anyone.

Just write the script.

How is it more humane keep someone alive, suffering and in pain, begging for death, when with a signature on a piece of paper you can end their suffering and give them the release they are asking for?

Doctors are supposed to do no harm.

Sometimes, our modern medical intervention ultimately leaves people suffering a fate worse than death. It causes harm while trying to heal.

Sometimes, causing no harm is allowing for death to come in a humane, painless manner.
 Quoting: Em18966


personally, having come back from very serious health issue, and knowing many who have also done so, seems like suicide is a bit defeatist…

check out: Dr. Terry Wahls how she was nearly incapacitated and found a way to heal herself:

Minding Your Mitochondria: Dr. Terry Wahls at TEDxIowaCity
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

or
How to Survive Cancer and the Truth about AIDS w/ Dr. Lorraine Day
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]



or how about all the miraculous headings that occur when people pray to God??
Testing Prayer: Science and Miraculous Healing - Candy Gunther Brown at Boston College
[link to youtu.be]

anything is possible…

hf
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Doctors should heal people, not kill people.
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go get em tiger

doctors and bibles are grrrrrrreat!

sheep

...because doctors will stop healing if this works


...ok tesla
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How about people get to have pain control while they are dying-without being knocked off in the process?

Bring back Bromptoms Cocktail.
 Quoting: zenobiaphobia


I agree with that if that's what they want.

In many cases, though, there are indignities of dying that people have to suffer through that have nothing to do with pain.

Immobility.

Incontinence.

Inability to eat.

Inability to communicate.

In this age of medical technology, people should have a choice and should not be made to suffer needlessly.

No one should have to live a life of suffering.

If they want out, they should be able to get out painlessly.

Nobody lives anyone elses life.

No one thinks like anyone else, no on feels like anyone else, no one experiences life like anyone else.

For some people, the promise of a potentially better tomorrow is enough to keep them going.

Others not so much.

Why should one soul be forced to remain in existence just so their family/friends can have them around and or their government can have one more worker if they don't want to?

Why should people have to turn to potentially faulty, painful methods of dying when there are foolproof, painless methods available??

Why does our government try so diligently to keep people alive when it is clear that they don't care about their happiness or quality of life?

What is one more soul, more or less, unless you believe that soul to be your property to do with as you wish?
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"Know ye not that ye are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man destroyeth the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, and such are ye."

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
 Quoting: javierruizleon


clappa
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and there are many proofs for God… and intelligent design…

yt: The Signs of God's Existence - Documentary [Full Length]
[link to www.youtube.com]

the churches are co-opted by tptb, but Christ is Truth.

Lee Strobel - The Case for the Resurrection
[link to www.youtube.com]
The Bible Is True! ~ The New Evidence That Demands A Verdict
[link to www.youtube.com]
Walter Veith (13) Battle of the Bibles /Total Onslaught
[link to www.youtube.com]
youtube: The Resurrection Argument That Changed a Generation of Scholars - Gary Habermas at UCSB [link to youtu.be]
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If you have to run off and kill yourself, at least have the dignity and honor to take care of some of these assholes.
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Religions are actually a much needed opposing force to the state, without them, the world would be reduced to a utilitarian hell-hole.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I believe that's what they want you to think.

Look back on world history - almost every great civilization has gone hand in hand with religion.

They want you to think that religion and government are opposing forces, much like they want you to think that republicans and democrats are two different teams.

They're all playing for the same side, and their purpose is to control you and keep you a slave - a good little slave in fear of secular repercussions for your choices in this life and religious repercussions in the next.

It's a good scheme.
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Religions are actually a much needed opposing force to the state, without them, the world would be reduced to a utilitarian hell-hole.
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I believe that's what they want you to think.

Look back on world history - almost every great civilization has gone hand in hand with religion.

They want you to think that religion and government are opposing forces, much like they want you to think that republicans and democrats are two different teams.

They're all playing for the same side, and their purpose is to control you and keep you a slave - a good little slave in fear of secular repercussions for your choices in this life and religious repercussions in the next.

It's a good scheme.
 Quoting: Em18966




Hmmm well...the reality I observe in our current world is that religion is being systematically undermined, along with its moral guidelines, in favour of a more homogenized society.
Religion insists on the fundamental freedom of the individual soul, while government tries to secede individual rights for the sake of group functionality.

It's a popular idea, this one of religion being all about control, and it gets repeated over and over, to me suspiciously over and over...
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Killing yourself is an arrogant, vain act that is greatly frowned upon by the very One who created you in the first place. Get mess for the depression, get pills for the physical pain but for Pete's sake, ending it all will land you in extremely hot water. God is merciful but He is also a judge. Duh.
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So said all knowing-all wise Bebe.
May your God put you in a position where you'd wish to kill yourself thousands of times, but you can't.
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death with dignity my arse.


same WITH TPTB promoting ANY RELIGION OUTSIDE OF THEM
and their bs gubmint.

wtf ? you think TPTB WANT YEW to LIVE LONG ENOUGH
to be A BURDEN ON THEIR SOCIETY ?

c'mon man--get a grip.
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Personally I think if you are on your death bed and you want to die it should be your choice. Yet I think a lot of people who are on their death beds want to get it over with because they know the bills are piling up. They would rather die then have their families stuck with tons of bills. To me that is really sad.
Ain't no sunshine when she's gone...ain't no borderline psychotic emotional outbursts either.
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You know I thing my mom left her body weeks before her body gave out. We turned her every few hours, changed her sheets, gave her food, bathed her and combed her hair and even put her lip stick on for her. She just didn't look like she was in there. I think it would have been a good thing to just help her to move on if she was still in that usless skin. She would have wanted that instead of living that way.
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Religions are actually a much needed opposing force to the state, without them, the world would be reduced to a utilitarian hell-hole.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I believe that's what they want you to think.

Look back on world history - almost every great civilization has gone hand in hand with religion.

They want you to think that religion and government are opposing forces, much like they want you to think that republicans and democrats are two different teams.

They're all playing for the same side, and their purpose is to control you and keep you a slave - a good little slave in fear of secular repercussions for your choices in this life and religious repercussions in the next.

It's a good scheme.
 Quoting: Em18966




Hmmm well...the reality I observe in our current world is that religion is being systematically undermined, along with its moral guidelines, in favour of a more homogenized society.
Religion insists on the fundamental freedom of the individual soul, while government tries to secede individual rights for the sake of group functionality.

It's a popular idea, this one of religion being all about control, and it gets repeated over and over, to me suspiciously over and over...
 Quoting: K.Kool


I respectfully disagree.

There is no freedom inherent in organized religion.

Personal spirituality, perhaps, but organized religion with dogma and threats of punishment for not following the arbitrary rules of a childish creator?

A creator, supposedly omnipotent and omnipresent, whose great plan for this earth apparently included a McDonald's on every corner, the Fed and babies dying of AIDS and starvation every minute.

Religion is just as much groupthink as secular government, it's just wrapped in different paper.
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"Know ye not that ye are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man destroyeth the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, and such are ye."

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Yeah, I would have to go with this. Over 20 years ago, I was getting pissed off at God. I wasn't depressed or suicidal. Just pissed off. He wasn't showing, so I warned him I would kill myself, if it was the only way to see him. (I also wouldn't recommend praying to God that way.) I had a silly freak accident and was in hell before I knew what happened. (I got better.) You are in danger of hell yourself if you encourage or help anyone to kill themselves. There's a book about Custer's last stand, called "save the last bullet for yourself." The Indians said most of Custer's men killed themselves. Keep your last bullet for one last enemy.
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death with dignity my arse.


same WITH TPTB promoting ANY RELIGION OUTSIDE OF THEM
and their bs gubmint.

wtf ? you think TPTB WANT YEW to LIVE LONG ENOUGH
to be A BURDEN ON THEIR SOCIETY ?

c'mon man--get a grip.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18425240


Did you read my original post?

I believe that TPTB wants us alive, well and working for their causes.

Which is why I think people should be legally allowed to choose death at any point in their existence - not just when they are terminal.

Who is anyone to tell another sentient human being that they should have to remain alive if they don't wish to do so?

Why are human beings deprived of the legal ability to choose to end this journey at their own personal whim, with speed and without pain, when the tools for a speedy, painless exit are readily and easily available?

Do you think the government wants you to remain alive so your soul can evolve or so that you can pay your taxes for the next few decades?

Do you think your religion of choice is going to profit quite as much if its members are actively choosing to go onto a better place?

Think about it.

It's all about the money.
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Doctors should heal people, not kill people.
 Quoting: tiger1


Doctors don't have to kill anyone.

Just write the script.

How is it more humane keep someone alive, suffering and in pain, begging for death, when with a signature on a piece of paper you can end their suffering and give them the release they are asking for?

Doctors are supposed to do no harm.

Sometimes, our modern medical intervention ultimately leaves people suffering a fate worse than death. It causes harm while trying to heal.

Sometimes, causing no harm is allowing for death to come in a humane, painless manner.
 Quoting: Em18966


Doctors should heal. You don't need a doctor to kill yourself. You live in a rich environment.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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"Know ye not that ye are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man destroyeth the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, and such are ye."

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Yeah, I would have to go with this. Over 20 years ago, I was getting pissed off at God. I wasn't depressed or suicidal. Just pissed off. He wasn't showing, so I warned him I would kill myself, if it was the only way to see him. (I also wouldn't recommend praying to God that way.) I had a silly freak accident and was in hell before I knew what happened. (I got better.) You are in danger of hell yourself if you encourage or help anyone to kill themselves. There's a book about Custer's last stand, called "save the last bullet for yourself." The Indians said most of Custer's men killed themselves. Keep your last bullet for one last enemy.
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What do your personal religious delusions have to do with anyone elses life and death?
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death with dignity my arse.


same WITH TPTB promoting ANY RELIGION OUTSIDE OF THEM
and their bs gubmint.

wtf ? you think TPTB WANT YEW to LIVE LONG ENOUGH
to be A BURDEN ON THEIR SOCIETY ?

c'mon man--get a grip.
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Did you read my original post?

I believe that TPTB wants us alive, well and working for their causes.

Which is why I think people should be legally allowed to choose death at any point in their existence - not just when they are terminal.

Who is anyone to tell another sentient human being that they should have to remain alive if they don't wish to do so?

Why are human beings deprived of the legal ability to choose to end this journey at their own personal whim, with speed and without pain, when the tools for a speedy, painless exit are readily and easily available?

Do you think the government wants you to remain alive so your soul can evolve or so that you can pay your taxes for the next few decades?

Do you think your religion of choice is going to profit quite as much if its members are actively choosing to go onto a better place?

Think about it.

It's all about the money.
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already told you about being a partaker. The end where God is going to get them is after all you have done he will finish it. If you are so limp wristed as to drop it all on God you are punished with bondage until you grow a spine.
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"Know ye not that ye are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man destroyeth the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, and such are ye."

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Yeah, I would have to go with this. Over 20 years ago, I was getting pissed off at God. I wasn't depressed or suicidal. Just pissed off. He wasn't showing, so I warned him I would kill myself, if it was the only way to see him. (I also wouldn't recommend praying to God that way.) I had a silly freak accident and was in hell before I knew what happened. (I got better.) You are in danger of hell yourself if you encourage or help anyone to kill themselves. There's a book about Custer's last stand, called "save the last bullet for yourself." The Indians said most of Custer's men killed themselves. Keep your last bullet for one last enemy.
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What do your personal religious delusions have to do with anyone elses life and death?
 Quoting: Em18966


What do your personal atheistic delusions have to do with letting the state end up with even more power of life and death over us?
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death with dignity my arse.


same WITH TPTB promoting ANY RELIGION OUTSIDE OF THEM
and their bs gubmint.

wtf ? you think TPTB WANT YEW to LIVE LONG ENOUGH
to be A BURDEN ON THEIR SOCIETY ?

c'mon man--get a grip.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18425240


Did you read my original post?

I believe that TPTB wants us alive, well and working for their causes.

Which is why I think people should be legally allowed to choose death at any point in their existence - not just when they are terminal.

Who is anyone to tell another sentient human being that they should have to remain alive if they don't wish to do so?

Why are human beings deprived of the legal ability to choose to end this journey at their own personal whim, with speed and without pain, when the tools for a speedy, painless exit are readily and easily available?

Do you think the government wants you to remain alive so your soul can evolve or so that you can pay your taxes for the next few decades?

Do you think your religion of choice is going to profit quite as much if its members are actively choosing to go onto a better place?

Think about it.

It's all about the money.
 Quoting: Em18966


already told you about being a partaker. The end where God is going to get them is after all you have done he will finish it. If you are so limp wristed as to drop it all on God you are punished with bondage until you grow a spine.
 Quoting: Kirk


Again with the religious delusions.

Many, many people do not buy into the sky-daddy lie.

And the fact that those who have swallowed it so enthusiastically are also so fervently opposed to people ending their own lives if they choose kind of lends credence that religious and secular power factions are in cahoots, creating a society that uses psychological and legal pressure to keep people alive to do the bidding of those in control, whether they would prefer death or not.
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Religions are actually a much needed opposing force to the state, without them, the world would be reduced to a utilitarian hell-hole.
 Quoting: K.Kool


I believe that's what they want you to think.

Look back on world history - almost every great civilization has gone hand in hand with religion.

They want you to think that religion and government are opposing forces, much like they want you to think that republicans and democrats are two different teams.

They're all playing for the same side, and their purpose is to control you and keep you a slave - a good little slave in fear of secular repercussions for your choices in this life and religious repercussions in the next.

It's a good scheme.
 Quoting: Em18966




Hmmm well...the reality I observe in our current world is that religion is being systematically undermined, along with its moral guidelines, in favour of a more homogenized society.
Religion insists on the fundamental freedom of the individual soul, while government tries to secede individual rights for the sake of group functionality.

It's a popular idea, this one of religion being all about control, and it gets repeated over and over, to me suspiciously over and over...
 Quoting: K.Kool


I respectfully disagree.

There is no freedom inherent in organized religion.

Personal spirituality, perhaps, but organized religion with dogma and threats of punishment for not following the arbitrary rules of a childish creator?

A creator, supposedly omnipotent and omnipresent, whose great plan for this earth apparently included a McDonald's on every corner, the Fed and babies dying of AIDS and starvation every minute.

Religion is just as much groupthink as secular government, it's just wrapped in different paper.
 Quoting: Em18966




It's strange, but true, I've never had more freedom than since I returned to the Church :)
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"Know ye not that ye are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man destroyeth the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, and such are ye."

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
 Quoting: javierruizleon


Yeah, I would have to go with this. Over 20 years ago, I was getting pissed off at God. I wasn't depressed or suicidal. Just pissed off. He wasn't showing, so I warned him I would kill myself, if it was the only way to see him. (I also wouldn't recommend praying to God that way.) I had a silly freak accident and was in hell before I knew what happened. (I got better.) You are in danger of hell yourself if you encourage or help anyone to kill themselves. There's a book about Custer's last stand, called "save the last bullet for yourself." The Indians said most of Custer's men killed themselves. Keep your last bullet for one last enemy.
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What do your personal religious delusions have to do with anyone elses life and death?
 Quoting: Em18966


What do your personal atheistic delusions have to do with letting the state end up with even more power of life and death over us?
 Quoting: Creepy-Ass Cracker


What more power of life and death could the state possibly have?

I don't believe the state should have ANY say in it.

I believe each individual should have the absolute legal right to make that choice for themselves, and should have access to the tools to end their life quickly, efficiently and painlessly if they so choose.

As it stands, the state regulates those substances and possessing them is a crime without express permission from a doctor, who gets his/her power from the state. And if you TRY to kill yourself, there are laws in place that allow the state to take custody of your physical person and force you to remain alive in an institution, drugged up and restrained against your will.

Not to mention that we live in a society that has created and reinforced taboos with regard to ending ones own life that are tantamount to psychological chains for those who feel as though they would rather check out.

I am simply advocating that people have the RIGHT to be trusted with their own life and death.

How is that giving the state more power?

It absolutely is not.

It is putting the power in the hands of the individuals.

If the state gets too oppressive, creates a life that is too unbearable, a system that is untenable, people will kill themselves at will en mass - if they so choose - and it will break down.

That is power to the individual, not power to TPTB.

You've got it all backwards.
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Re: Death With Dignity and why TPTB Promote Religion and Discourage Suicide
baaaaaaa... bible, bible, bible, baaaaaaaaaa
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Driving people to suicide by denying them decent pain control, as we do now, is murder. My belief.
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Agreed my friend. I understand. hugs
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Re: Death With Dignity and why TPTB Promote Religion and Discourage Suicide
"Know ye not that ye are a temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man destroyeth the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, and such are ye."

1 Corinthians 3:16-17
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Yeah, I would have to go with this. Over 20 years ago, I was getting pissed off at God. I wasn't depressed or suicidal. Just pissed off. He wasn't showing, so I warned him I would kill myself, if it was the only way to see him. (I also wouldn't recommend praying to God that way.) I had a silly freak accident and was in hell before I knew what happened. (I got better.) You are in danger of hell yourself if you encourage or help anyone to kill themselves. There's a book about Custer's last stand, called "save the last bullet for yourself." The Indians said most of Custer's men killed themselves. Keep your last bullet for one last enemy.
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What do your personal religious delusions have to do with anyone elses life and death?
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same as your opinions or are you beyond error?
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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Re: Death With Dignity and why TPTB Promote Religion and Discourage Suicide
This thread and the comments under are just more proof of God.
But I don't understand how someone can be so adamant that we have a soul, yet seems to despise God and his people