Death With Dignity and why TPTB Promote Religion and Discourage Suicide

Looks like judges are catching up with basic morality:

"New Mexico is set to become the fifth US state where doctors are allowed to aid the death of terminally ill patients after a landmark court ruling.

“This court cannot envision a right more fundamental, more private or more integral to the liberty, safety and happiness of a New Mexican than the right of a competent, terminally ill patient to choose aid in dying,” Judge Nan G. Nash of the Second District Court in Albuquerque wrote in her ruling.

"If decisions made in the shadow of one's imminent death regarding how they and their loved ones will face that death are not fundamental and at the core of these constitutional guarantees, than what decisions are?"

The decision came after a two-day hearing of a case brought by two doctors on behalf of Aja Riggs, a 49-year-old uterine cancer patient, who is currently in remission, but wants a lethal injection if her condition worsens.

“I don’t want to suffer needlessly at the end,” Riggs told the court during one of the sessions.

As of now, assisting a suicide within state borders is a fourth-degree felony, and could lead to 18 months in jail and a fine of up to $5,000, according to a law passed in 1963.

The plaintiffs, supported by nationwide advocacy groups, argued that the law did not apply to medical conditions.

The judge rejected the argument, but agreed that the ability to end one’s life as desired was a “fundamental right.” "

[link to rt.com]

Thank you O.P

I agree completely. My Father is so ill. He is suffering so badly.
I want him to be able to escape when needed.

I want to be able to go if I am suffering at that level.

Death is nothing to fear. We do not really die.

I couldn't read it to the end, I got really disgusted by the OP. I knew a girl who jumped out of her window because she broke up with her boyfriend. Is it normal? Is it good? NO!!!!

Religion teaches that no matter what happens you must be strong and live through the difficulties. ´People commit suicide nowadays because of stupid things. Suicide rates are too high. And I'm not even talking what the loved ones feel while losing a dear person.


Psychiatry is the most evil institution on Earth. You are sad? You are ill, let's call this illness depression. Oh you want to kill yourself? Here, have these pills, they make you more suicidal.

And this is how our medical institutions HELP suicidal people? Yeah, go on with your story how TPTB discourages suicide.

I feel sorry for the doctors who became doctors to help humans and put years to learn how to do it, now they have to murder people instead.

Frankly, I admire people who are able to overcome their base instinct of self-preservation. It takes amazing courage and strength to pack it in, no matter the catalyst for such an extreme decision.

Why were religions really created?

Why have the been used by those in power to manipulate and control the populous since societies formed and civilizations began?

I mean, any rational person can look at organized religions and their interconnectedness with secular governments and know without question that these religions exist for no other reason than to subjugate and enslave millions of people.

I have been watching a documentary about Oregon's assisted suicide/death with dignity laws and listening to the people chronicled in the film has made me think a lot about why suicide is so culturally stigmatized and why governments need religions to keep their sheeple in line.

These people, who have had the legal right to opt of their pain and suffering at their leisure have regained total control of themselves and their souls. Even those who choose not to follow through with euthanasia but who have the drugs that will end their lives painlessly and with dignity in their possession seem to possess a freedom that most humans only dream of - even as they suffer from various painful and debilitating terminal illnesses.

Religion is used to keep people in line, to give them a healthy fear that whatever happens after they die may be worse than whatever hell they are suffering here. That if they willfully leave this realm, they will be condemned to an eternity of suffering. That the best they can hope for in all of existence is to be a slave in this life and a servant in the next.

It makes people pliable, docile, easy to control by ingraining in their psyche from their earliest memory that the don't truly own themselves - that they are someone or something else's property.

These people, who know that they can choose to end their suffering on this plane, without pain and without judgement, seem to be more at peace and less like sheep than any people I have ever observed. They know they belong to no one but themselves. That both their body and their soul are theirs and theirs alone to do with as they please, when they please, and if they so choose.

Can you imagine a society full of people who knew this? They would be sheeple no more, and TPTB knows this.

They want us to feel owned, from the cradle to the grave, to take whatever they dish out because we HAVE NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVE.

Can you imagine how difficult it would be to control a million workers if you knew that if you pushed them too far, they just might not be there tomorrow? They might all simply opt out and end this existence - painlessly. That THEY owned themselves and their fate and they knew it? You may think a little bit more about how you treated them if you knew they might not be there tomorrow.

Look, for example, at China, where Apple has had to install nets around buildings to prevent people from jumping off. They can't even KILL themselves. They have no alternative to getting up every morning and being cogs in the corporate machine.

I think EVERYBODY should have the right to have in their cupboard an easy way out. I think that government's created religion and religious guilt to keep their slaves enslaved and from escaping this existence on their own terms. It is the taboo of death, the fear of eternal punishment, that keeps the good little sheep in line. It's the idea that we are owned by a big bad sky daddy who will be very VERY disappointed in us if we refuse to be slaves that keeps us slaves in the first place.

It's all a lie.

They don't want us dead because it takes time to grow the next generation of workers.

That's it.

Frankly, I admire people who are able to overcome their base instinct of self-preservation. It takes amazing courage and strength to pack it in, no matter the catalyst for such an extreme decision.

Wouldn't it take MORE courage and strength to deal with the problem rather than giving up?

"They don't want us dead because it takes time to grow the next generation of workers"

profound...

What if it is your mother? Or your father? Or your soulmate? You wouldn't think like that. I was friends with a guy who's mother hanged herself, left her two children with a huge loan and totally alone. Now is it strenght? Is it right to do so? Is it courageous to hurt people who love you? No it isn't.

Thank you O.P

I agree completely. My Father is so ill. He is suffering so badly.
I want him to be able to escape when needed.

I want to be able to go if I am suffering at that level.

Death is nothing to fear. We do not really die.

I have had 2 friends kill themselves, and another who failed. the 2 that succeeded had no health problems, one was older, and one was 26.The one that was older took an overdose. It destroyed her family.The one that was 26 killed himself to get "back" at his father, who he hated.
The one that failed was only 19 and healthy when he tried. His suicide attempt left him blind, but he is glad he is alive.

So, where will this all stop, or will it. In some other countries, they allow assisted suicide for people with mental problems, because they are "suffering" also. Older people are encouraged by their families to kill themselves. Some younger people view the elderly and disabled as burdens who need to be euthanized. Hitler encouraged legal suicide, and forced euthanasia on thousands of sick, disabled, and elderly people. Then it escalated into other categories of people. Reread history.

You are forgiven.

My maternal grandfather(gun), a first cousin(hanging), another first cousin(suicide by cop) and a second cousin(intentional overdose) all did it. I've had a long history with suicide(since age 8) and being an extremely(to a fault some say) objective person, I have come to the conclusion I iterated earlier.

Your presumption on the way another would/should feel it what disturbs me most about your post, btw.

Why were religions really created?

Why have the been used by those in power to manipulate and control the populous since societies formed and civilizations began?

I mean, any rational person can look at organized religions and their interconnectedness with secular governments and know without question that these religions exist for no other reason than to subjugate and enslave millions of people.

I have been watching a documentary about Oregon's assisted suicide/death with dignity laws and listening to the people chronicled in the film has made me think a lot about why suicide is so culturally stigmatized and why governments need religions to keep their sheeple in line.

These people, who have had the legal right to opt of their pain and suffering at their leisure have regained total control of themselves and their souls. Even those who choose not to follow through with euthanasia but who have the drugs that will end their lives painlessly and with dignity in their possession seem to possess a freedom that most humans only dream of - even as they suffer from various painful and debilitating terminal illnesses.

Religion is used to keep people in line, to give them a healthy fear that whatever happens after they die may be worse than whatever hell they are suffering here. That if they willfully leave this realm, they will be condemned to an eternity of suffering. That the best they can hope for in all of existence is to be a slave in this life and a servant in the next.

It makes people pliable, docile, easy to control by ingraining in their psyche from their earliest memory that the don't truly own themselves - that they are someone or something else's property.

These people, who know that they can choose to end their suffering on this plane, without pain and without judgement, seem to be more at peace and less like sheep than any people I have ever observed. They know they belong to no one but themselves. That both their body and their soul are theirs and theirs alone to do with as they please, when they please, and if they so choose.

Can you imagine a society full of people who knew this? They would be sheeple no more, and TPTB knows this.

They want us to feel owned, from the cradle to the grave, to take whatever they dish out because we HAVE NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVE.

Can you imagine how difficult it would be to control a million workers if you knew that if you pushed them too far, they just might not be there tomorrow? They might all simply opt out and end this existence - painlessly. That THEY owned themselves and their fate and they knew it? You may think a little bit more about how you treated them if you knew they might not be there tomorrow.

Look, for example, at China, where Apple has had to install nets around buildings to prevent people from jumping off. They can't even KILL themselves. They have no alternative to getting up every morning and being cogs in the corporate machine.

I think EVERYBODY should have the right to have in their cupboard an easy way out. I think that government's created religion and religious guilt to keep their slaves enslaved and from escaping this existence on their own terms. It is the taboo of death, the fear of eternal punishment, that keeps the good little sheep in line. It's the idea that we are owned by a big bad sky daddy who will be very VERY disappointed in us if we refuse to be slaves that keeps us slaves in the first place.

It's all a lie.

They don't want us dead because it takes time to grow the next generation of workers.

That's it.

And why should you care if someone prefers to die with dignity? What if they aren't believers in your religion? Are laws required simply because you don't approve?

That is the problem, people don't know history.

NWO agenda is to fight back and abolish all religions...

so this OP is crap.

Why were religions really created?

Why have the been used by those in power to manipulate and control the populous since societies formed and civilizations began?

I mean, any rational person can look at organized religions and their interconnectedness with secular governments and know without question that these religions exist for no other reason than to subjugate and enslave millions of people.

I have been watching a documentary about Oregon's assisted suicide/death with dignity laws and listening to the people chronicled in the film has made me think a lot about why suicide is so culturally stigmatized and why governments need religions to keep their sheeple in line.

These people, who have had the legal right to opt of their pain and suffering at their leisure have regained total control of themselves and their souls. Even those who choose not to follow through with euthanasia but who have the drugs that will end their lives painlessly and with dignity in their possession seem to possess a freedom that most humans only dream of - even as they suffer from various painful and debilitating terminal illnesses.

Religion is used to keep people in line, to give them a healthy fear that whatever happens after they die may be worse than whatever hell they are suffering here. That if they willfully leave this realm, they will be condemned to an eternity of suffering. That the best they can hope for in all of existence is to be a slave in this life and a servant in the next.

It makes people pliable, docile, easy to control by ingraining in their psyche from their earliest memory that the don't truly own themselves - that they are someone or something else's property.

These people, who know that they can choose to end their suffering on this plane, without pain and without judgement, seem to be more at peace and less like sheep than any people I have ever observed. They know they belong to no one but themselves. That both their body and their soul are theirs and theirs alone to do with as they please, when they please, and if they so choose.

Can you imagine a society full of people who knew this? They would be sheeple no more, and TPTB knows this.

They want us to feel owned, from the cradle to the grave, to take whatever they dish out because we HAVE NO VIABLE ALTERNATIVE.

Can you imagine how difficult it would be to control a million workers if you knew that if you pushed them too far, they just might not be there tomorrow? They might all simply opt out and end this existence - painlessly. That THEY owned themselves and their fate and they knew it? You may think a little bit more about how you treated them if you knew they might not be there tomorrow.

Look, for example, at China, where Apple has had to install nets around buildings to prevent people from jumping off. They can't even KILL themselves. They have no alternative to getting up every morning and being cogs in the corporate machine.

I think EVERYBODY should have the right to have in their cupboard an easy way out. I think that government's created religion and religious guilt to keep their slaves enslaved and from escaping this existence on their own terms. It is the taboo of death, the fear of eternal punishment, that keeps the good little sheep in line. It's the idea that we are owned by a big bad sky daddy who will be very VERY disappointed in us if we refuse to be slaves that keeps us slaves in the first place.

It's all a lie.

They don't want us dead because it takes time to grow the next generation of workers.

That's it.