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Elohim: Singular or plural?

 
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A Lord means a King.


The Daeva are False Gods that wanted to be known as God Kings.



But there is not King but King Jesus and he is sent to us from the Creator of All to give us Eternal Life.


He came to show us they Grail.



And loyalists to the False Gods Crucified him for it.
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El-o-him = singular, yet twinned, "EL" + "him."

"There can be only one." -Highlander

And then, the one replicated... E. Pluribus Unum, "Out of One, Many"

Chinese Proverb: "The one begot the two; the two begot the three; the three begot the ten thousand things."


:FGT: :Antenna Nebula:

The One, Tom, the twin, collides with Elohimself to make the millions...

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The elohim [Divine] is singular in the Lord God Jesus Christ.

It's His very life.

This life is received from the Lord by angels and spirits.

In angels and spirits the Lord's is plural.

The Lord created man through angels and spirits.

They are the ones speaking in the verse you quoted.
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The elohim [Divine] is singular in the Lord God Jesus Christ.

It's His very life.

This life is received from the Lord by angels and spirits.

In angels and spirits the Lord's is plural.

The Lord created man through angels and spirits.

They are the ones speaking in the verse you quoted.
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Then God said, "Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."


So, you're saying that God in this passage is not really God, but angels?

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I already have my own opinion of this. I think that it has to be plural.
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1God presides in the great assembly;
he gives judgment among the gods:
2How long will you defend the unjust
and show partiality to the wicked? Selah
Psalm 82
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I already have my own opinion of this. I think that it has to be plural.
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1God presides in the great assembly;
he gives judgment among the gods:
2How long will you defend the unjust
and show partiality to the wicked? Selah
Psalm 82
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I had forgotten about that. Certainly points to plurality. Thanks AC!
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plural.

G-d speaking to the heavenly cohort which he created!

the one you call jehova is EL ELYON (most high god)
and he created the rest of the elohim.
Michael Gabriel Raphael etc are all elohim.
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I already have my own opinion of this. I think that it has to be plural.
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1God presides in the great assembly;
he gives judgment among the gods:
2How long will you defend the unjust
and show partiality to the wicked? Selah
Psalm 82
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I had forgotten about that. Certainly points to plurality. Thanks AC!
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... another example:

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.
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It is often paraphrased in English translations as "Almighty" although this is an interpretive element. The name then refers to the pre-Mosaic patriarchal understanding of deity as "God who is sufficient." God is sufficient, that is, to supply all of one's needs, and therefore by derivation "almighty". It may also be understood as an allusion to the singularity of deity, "El", as opposed to "Elohim" (plural), being sufficient or enough for the early patriarchs of Judaism. To this was latter added the Mosaic conception of the tetragrammaton YHWH, meaning a God who is sufficient in Himself, that is, a self-determined eternal Being qua Being, for whom limited descriptive names cannot apply. This may have been the meaning the Hebrew phrase "ehyeh asher ehyeh" (which translates roughly as "I will be that which I will be") and which is how God describes himself to Moses cf. Exodus 3:13-15. This phrase can be applied to the tetragrammaton YHWH, which can be understood as an anagram for the three States of Being: past, present and future, conjoined with the conjunctive Hebrew letter vav.

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correct. it's plural.
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Bad link.
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Elohim, can be both, singular, and plural, both at the same time... but, there's a whole lot more to it than that...

Kinda lazy... to talk about it now... lol, already typed a whole lot in the last few, couple of days...

I'm so lazy now, lol.

But there is much to be said about this subject... that's a fact of life.
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No. Actually a single elohim (actually, alahim) is "eloh" (alah).
Here's one of many examples where L-rd g-d is actually written as IHUH alahi -the "i" at the end of alah shows the possessive "the mighty one of the Hebrews"): [link to www.blueletterbible.org]

www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Exd&c=10&t=KJV&p=0#s=t_co​nc_60003
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For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost and these three are one

And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.

And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

I am the resurrection and the life

The one who believes in Me, even if he dies, will live
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Elohim, can be both, singular, and plural, both at the same time... but, there's a whole lot more to it than that...

Kinda lazy... to talk about it now... lol, already typed a whole lot in the last few, couple of days...

I'm so lazy now, lol.

But there is much to be said about this subject... that's a fact of life.
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No. Actually a single elohim (actually, alahim) is "eloh" (alah).
Here's one of many examples where L-rd g-d is actually written as IHUH alahi -the "i" at the end of alah shows the possessive "the mighty one of the Hebrews"): [link to www.blueletterbible.org]

www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Exd&c=10&t=KJV&p=0#s=t_co​nc_60003
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Not according to a Hebrew language expert.
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It all depends on the sentence in which it's found and the surrounding grammar and context.

We have words like this in English.

If I say "sheep", by itself you can't tell if I am referring to one sheep or more than one sheep.

I need to put it in a sentence where the grammar tells you what is meant.

"The sheep is lost" refers to ONE sheep since "is" = a singular verb form.

"The sheep are lost" refers to more than one sheep because the verb form is plural.



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^^^THIS^^^
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For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book

And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
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I already have my own opinion of this. I think that it has to be plural.

"Let us make man in our image."

This, coupled with all of the ancients texts, cities, and artifacts from Sumeria, Egypt, India, and on and on.

Then there's the whole missing link. SOMETHING jump started us in bug way. We go from spear chuckers to city builders almost overnight.

And what about the crazy astronomical knowledge. They knew the solar system better than we did until the 20th century.

We had to have been helped and I think that's what the elohim are.

Any thoughts on this?

peace

Sorry if this seemed terse... I'm using my tablet and typing on it blows.
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I'm halfway into book one of The Twelfth Planet and it talks about that. Elohim is plural as to my understanding.
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Elohim, can be both, singular, and plural, both at the same time... but, there's a whole lot more to it than that...

Kinda lazy... to talk about it now... lol, already typed a whole lot in the last few, couple of days...

I'm so lazy now, lol.

But there is much to be said about this subject... that's a fact of life.
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No. Actually a single elohim (actually, alahim) is "eloh" (alah).
Here's one of many examples where L-rd g-d is actually written as IHUH alahi -the "i" at the end of alah shows the possessive "the mighty one of the Hebrews"): [link to www.blueletterbible.org]

www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Exd&c=10&t=KJV&p=0#s=t_co​nc_60003
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Not according to a Hebrew language expert.
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Which one?
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Little reading clears that one up.
spanish remember.

el = the
0 = o blooded man
him = again man

This why caeser stated the anti christ would come from the o - bloodline. The new testament built on that holy blood there on that shroud. Ab.


This written because after the invasion or whatever, the "white" folks apparently had no knowledge of who they were or where they had come from, much like the many depopulation of rome, and the murals with only children left there in denver.


So he was thought to be self created by the new folks it seems.
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when I hear a bible believer talking of elohim I cock my lugar
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The light and awakening of the Infinite » The Book Of Eloheme


"Elohim specifically points to the multiplicity of forces which are manifested in creation"

(From the Book of Elohem”e)


you can read From the Book of Elohem”e here

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rest of secret books here
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Elohim, can be both, singular, and plural, both at the same time... but, there's a whole lot more to it than that...

Kinda lazy... to talk about it now... lol, already typed a whole lot in the last few, couple of days...

I'm so lazy now, lol.

But there is much to be said about this subject... that's a fact of life.
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No. Actually a single elohim (actually, alahim) is "eloh" (alah).
Here's one of many examples where L-rd g-d is actually written as IHUH alahi -the "i" at the end of alah shows the possessive "the mighty one of the Hebrews"): [link to www.blueletterbible.org]

www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Exd&c=10&t=KJV&p=0#s=t_co​nc_60003
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Not according to a Hebrew language expert.
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Yea right


" Know therefore this day, and consider it in your heart, that the Lord is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath; there is no other."

"Lord is God" in its original language Hebrew its "Yhvh is Eloheme"

Many forces ONE GOD !
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I already have my own opinion of this. I think that it has to be plural.

"Let us make man in our image."

This, coupled with all of the ancients texts, cities, and artifacts from Sumeria, Egypt, India, and on and on.

Then there's the whole missing link. SOMETHING jump started us in bug way. We go from spear chuckers to city builders almost overnight.

And what about the crazy astronomical knowledge. They knew the solar system better than we did until the 20th century.

We had to have been helped and I think that's what the elohim are.

Any thoughts on this?

peace

Sorry if this seemed terse... I'm using my tablet and typing on it blows.
 Quoting: digitalFoo


Elohim are traditional (Yahweh) greys. Good guys too. Note I'm talking about certain greys, there are different ones.

I could tell you why people think they're either angels or demons but I'm sure you can figure it out based on the attributes ascribed to either. The elohim are just a bunch of alien dudes trying to live their lives and prevent humans from blowing themselves and them to kingdom come because someone pissed in someone elses cornflakes.

I consider myself part of their "tribe" as do most that know them. They're like family to me.
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They are referred to as the 'shining' ones. I don't think they are grey.
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Elohim, can be both, singular, and plural, both at the same time... but, there's a whole lot more to it than that...

Kinda lazy... to talk about it now... lol, already typed a whole lot in the last few, couple of days...

I'm so lazy now, lol.

But there is much to be said about this subject... that's a fact of life.
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No. Actually a single elohim (actually, alahim) is "eloh" (alah).
Here's one of many examples where L-rd g-d is actually written as IHUH alahi -the "i" at the end of alah shows the possessive "the mighty one of the Hebrews"): [link to www.blueletterbible.org]

www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Exd&c=10&t=KJV&p=0#s=t_co​nc_60003
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Not according to a Hebrew language expert.
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Yea right


" Know therefore this day, and consider it in your heart, that the Lord is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath; there is no other."

"Lord is God" in its original language Hebrew its "Yhvh is Eloheme"

Many forces ONE GOD !
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" Know therefore this day, and consider it in your heart, that the Lord is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath; there is no other."

DEUT 4
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There is no other

Are you absolutely positive? I'm not.
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There is no other

Are you absolutely positive? I'm not.
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Almighty can be but one of gods, by definition.
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There is no other

Are you absolutely positive? I'm not.
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its our torah and we know it better than you, no matter how smartasses you think you are...

we are 100% positive, now you can go learn torah from stupid theosophists who are gnostics who are basically paganists who are forced to live under the shadow of our G-d.





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