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I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...

 
TowerManDan
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I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
to spy on whoever they want...whenever they want...

the real danger to having smart meters is the fact that they are addressable...and can pinpoint your homes location on the power grid.

I have to go to work now....be back in 10 hours...
please try to tell me the truth...
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
certain new intel chips have a little known wireless wifi radio built right into the die. This is exploited and used by the NSA to access your computer without you even knowing, even when you are supposedly off line.
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to spy on whoever they want...whenever they want...

the real danger to having smart meters is the fact that they are addressable...and can pinpoint your homes location on the power grid.

I have to go to work now....be back in 10 hours...
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bump and 5*****
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
I know this is hard to prove... and hard to even explain... but let me tell you ... my experiences over the last 14 months... have taught me several things...

Police lie...
Police record you ... then they arrest you later... then they want to use the recording in court...
Police track your cell phone using a device called a stingray made by Harris Radio (do a Google)...without a warrant...and sometimes they share this info with private citizens...
the FBI or the DEA or the NSA or all the above can use your cell phones location...even when you leave it in the car...and then pinpoint which home you are in...using the smart meter which is addressable... and then listen to your conversations inside your friends and associates homes!!! all without a warrant...all in real time...

I know this because this has been happening to me...

This is the danger of our government collecting metadataon us all...

if you are a target...for any reason whatsoever... then ANYONE AND EVERYONE YOU KNOW AND TALK TO CAN AND WILL POSSIBLY BE SPIED UPON...

This is BIG BROTHER ON STEROIDS...

This is our nightmare come true people... This is the proof that our government has gone tyrannical... and does not represent us anymore...

This is a sickening revelation for me... because I know this is happening to many more people than me...

My life, my privacy, my freedom, my health, my children and my reputation are all in tatters and hanging by a thread because of these abuses by my Government.

If you do not somehow stop it people... it will happen to you and your family too... only the people who work in government and the first responder crowd will be left alone

Don`t say you did not know this could happen...or did not realize it had gotten so bad...

I just told you..... And I Have no reason to Lie...
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
the only way I have figured around this problem... is to leave your phone in the car... and walk the last few blocks to your destination....
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
Just take the battery out of the phone,
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
Give your phone to a homeless guy and put him on a Greyhound. Then head in the opposite direction.
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
Op is really important makes a ton of money, a terrorist, or making shit up
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
the only way I have figured around this problem... is to leave your phone in the car... and walk the last few blocks to your destination....
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53260488


Shotspotters, drones, planes, satellites,nah, there if no way around IMO.
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I am not making shit up. I am not a terrorist. I do not make a ton of money. Some people would consider me extremely important.
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
Ok, it's been 10 hours. Let's hear some details.
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Way ahead of you A/C
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
Bump for a new day of awareness... Call your congressmen and women and complain...tell them you are not going to take it anymore...
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
just set your mobile phone to manually select network operator instead of automatic and don't log onto the stingray femtocells.
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
there is a whole secret internet over the power lines if you know how to tap into it...
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
so are you going to elaborate or what here.??
MORE FIRE!!!... and sling it while it's hot.!!
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Bump for a new day of awareness... Call your congressmen and women and complain...tell them you are not going to take it anymore...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53260488


At a time when the UK is cutting spending all over to ridiculous extremes we're spending £10B on installing smart meters, that's got to tell you something!!!
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
there is a whole secret internet over the power lines if you know how to tap into it...
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Please explain
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
there is a whole secret internet over the power lines if you know how to tap into it...
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Please explain
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28541967


There were rumors about that back in the late 90's.

That they could piggyback on power lines and tap into anything that had a microphone back then (like phones not connected to a phone line, some TVs with hidden microphones, office equipment, and some appliances).

The other rumors back then was that they didnt need a microphone source and that they would simply capture voice and sounds but the tiniest vibrational changes picked up by the electrical wires in the home.
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
there is a whole secret internet over the power lines if you know how to tap into it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53243799


Please explain
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28541967


There were rumors about that back in the late 90's.

That they could piggyback on power lines and tap into anything that had a microphone back then (like phones not connected to a phone line, some TVs with hidden microphones, office equipment, and some appliances).

The other rumors back then was that they didnt need a microphone source and that they would simply capture voice and sounds but the tiniest vibrational changes picked up by the electrical wires in the home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3937774


i do remember hearing about
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Just take the battery out of the phone,
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I can't....
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
They replaced my gas meter recently, I watched them do it.

No power to the meter yet the meter "calls home" to report our usage?

Installer had NO IDEA what the meter uses to call home.
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
OP....... I don't like your avatar.

With that said, you do have some understanding of what is happening.

Everyone should read the King James Bible, Revelation 13 completely.

The USA is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13

First beast of Revelation 13: the Vatican (1)


First beast of Revelation 13: the Vatican (2)



And here is the USA and the power that it will wield over the entire world. Read what the OP said about smart meters and cell phones and understand that he is talking about the 2nd beast of Revelation 13.

Specifically look here:

Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

Nobody has the military might of the USA. NOBODY. And it's going to be used against the entire world, including America.


Second beast of Revelation 13: the United States (1)



the USA is training with all of the various militaries around the world and creating a One World Military that will be led by the USA.

Joint training with other nations is designed to have everyone on the same page when the One World Military forms in front of everyone's eyes.

Pay close attention, ladies and gentlemen, because this official USA Navy commercial is telling us that it is a GLOBAL FORCE.

GLOBAL = WORLD

WORLD = New World Order

AMERICA'S NAVY A Global Force for Good


Who understands the times?
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
we are so screwed. i have spent the last hour learning about and almost started a new thread on it. OP is right. broadband over power lines is real and the information appears not to be secure. the rabbit hole is deep.
this is from an AC back in 09

[link to arstechnica.com]

FCC books were cooked, and the test studies on BPL were incorrectlya set up, so it got passed. These BPL towers are popping up everywhere now and already send out waves that interfere with HAM and shortwave radio on their default power level. They're running broadband signal over bare metal power lines, the signal is not contained in any way. They could crank up the strength of the signal to dangerous levels and anyone nearby would essentially be radiation microwaved, chest pains, can't breath, sickness(aka swine flu). All this happening and you would have no way to tell, because BPL already interferes with shortwave/HAM and you don't have your analogue TV's anymore to see this interference with your own eyes(government mandate coversion to digital signal FTW).

Sick. Fuck BPL. You can find a database of all BPL tower locations here: [link to www.bpldatabase.org]
Go there and search for your zipcode/city&state. If you live near one I would highly recommend getting the FUCK outta there.


this is a link i found,
See below link for more info
[link to itlaw.wikia.com]

YOUR APPLIANCES WILL SPY ON YOU
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
No time to respond...must be in court in 45 minutes ... the Government is filing motions saying I have been threatening them....this is in response to my disclosures here... they are probably livid that they are exposed as the evil and corrupt snoops and spies that they are...

Please Pray For me people... it is me against the entire US Govt.. I truly am doing this to help us all live in privacy and peace and dignity..
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GOOD LUCK and let us know what happens
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
stingray femtocells,

this is important to everyone,

[link to www.techdirt.com]
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Good luck
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
there is a whole secret internet over the power lines if you know how to tap into it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53243799


Please explain
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28541967


There were rumors about that back in the late 90's.

That they could piggyback on power lines and tap into anything that had a microphone back then (like phones not connected to a phone line, some TVs with hidden microphones, office equipment, and some appliances).

The other rumors back then was that they didnt need a microphone source and that they would simply capture voice and sounds but the tiniest vibrational changes picked up by the electrical wires in the home.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3937774


Operation: TUMBLEWEED
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
there is a whole secret internet over the power lines if you know how to tap into it...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53243799


Ahh your talking about the black web ..the "darker" side of the internet