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I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...

 
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to spy on whoever they want...whenever they want...

the real danger to having smart meters is the fact that they are addressable...and can pinpoint your homes location on the power grid.

I have to go to work now....be back in 10 hours...
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meter wont be so smart when u clip the cable.
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I am not making shit up. I am not a terrorist. I do not make a ton of money. Some people would consider me extremely important.
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Tell me why some people would consider you extremely important.
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
They replaced my gas meter recently, I watched them do it.

No power to the meter yet the meter "calls home" to report our usage?

Installer had NO IDEA what the meter uses to call home.
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Battery pack, good for 5 years is what the water guy said about the water smart meter. And the standard line about how great they are.
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
No time to respond...must be in court in 45 minutes ... the Government is filing motions saying I have been threatening them....this is in response to my disclosures here... they are probably livid that they are exposed as the evil and corrupt snoops and spies that they are...

Please Pray For me people... it is me against the entire US Govt.. I truly am doing this to help us all live in privacy and peace and dignity..
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Seriously? The gov`t has you in court already after one day of exposing them here? You lost all credibility after this post.
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I am not making shit up. I am not a terrorist. I do not make a ton of money. Some people would consider me extremely important.
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Tell me why some people would consider you extremely important.
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Ha.............. if he told you, would you understand?
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F**K SMART METERS
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I am not making shit up. I am not a terrorist. I do not make a ton of money. Some people would consider me extremely important.
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Tell me why some people would consider you extremely important.
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Ha.............. if he told you, would you understand?
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^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
there is a whole secret internet over the power lines if you know how to tap into it...
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Ahh your talking about the black web ..the "darker" side of the internet
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NO. ITS CALLED BROADBAND OVER POWER LINES OR BLP
now go back and read
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look up FP&L Fibernet...
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I know this is hard to prove... and hard to even explain... but let me tell you ... my experiences over the last 14 months... have taught me several things...

Police lie...
Police record you ... then they arrest you later... then they want to use the recording in court...
Police track your cell phone using a device called a stingray made by Harris Radio (do a Google)...without a warrant...and sometimes they share this info with private citizens...
the FBI or the DEA or the NSA or all the above can use your cell phones location...even when you leave it in the car...and then pinpoint which home you are in...using the smart meter which is addressable... and then listen to your conversations inside your friends and associates homes!!! all without a warrant...all in real time...

I know this because this has been happening to me...

This is the danger of our government collecting metadataon us all...

if you are a target...for any reason whatsoever... then ANYONE AND EVERYONE YOU KNOW AND TALK TO CAN AND WILL POSSIBLY BE SPIED UPON...

This is BIG BROTHER ON STEROIDS...

This is our nightmare come true people... This is the proof that our government has gone tyrannical... and does not represent us anymore...

This is a sickening revelation for me... because I know this is happening to many more people than me...

My life, my privacy, my freedom, my health, my children and my reputation are all in tatters and hanging by a thread because of these abuses by my Government.

If you do not somehow stop it people... it will happen to you and your family too... only the people who work in government and the first responder crowd will be left alone

Don`t say you did not know this could happen...or did not realize it had gotten so bad...

I just told you..... And I Have no reason to Lie...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53260488







let's face it

they are going to make up whatever they wish to use against anyone they please at some point

what did you imagine the actual "tribulation" would be comprised of, in fact and in truth, but satan, he who accuses us day and night before the throne of our God, having arrived upon the earth and having set himself up as being "godlike" in our presence, seeks to defame and discolor our testimony when we come against him in turn

so don't go anywhere verbally or otherwise that your heart doesn't back you up in having gone

that way when they come against you for whatever purposes, if and as they may choose so to do

you will be standing on solid ground when you debunk and/or stand strong for that which ye believe, and/or that which you have done, in error or otherwise

it's not as if all of us haven't made determinations and choices over the course of our lives which we would in nowise turn again to do, people make mistakes and it's to be expected as being part and parcel of life and the living and learning thereof as we move forward through same

I intended to do such anyway when my moment arrived, hence they can take the good with the bad according to their own designs and desires, but they will be unable to capture me having performed anything that I don't stand behind when push comes to shove by any means

the rest is or will thereafter be water neath the bridge

which they can do with as they choose

I am not here on earth to duck and dodge my own truth

nor to placate their ongoing lies

nor will I do so, regardless of what may and will indeed come in DUE time accordingly

there is a season to all things

I am only here to be true to that which I believe to coincide with such in full

and am only obligated thereunto, period

; )

the rest as they say is history, such as it be
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OMG... back home from court...have not been able to read the thread... children home soon and we are going to my Aunts house for the night.. I will be back on here tomorrow around noon.. central USA time...

In court...as I expected.. the government tried to make the case that I had mental issues... and asked the court to require that I be made to wear a Goddamn ankle monitoring bracelet!!!! You know you are making the government crooks nervous when they start saying you are mental...

Put another way... when you catch the government doing crimes against you they are forced to do one of two things...either they claim you are dangerous...and need to be locked up...

or they say I am sorry... we were bad and wrong... here is some money to compensate you and your family for the horrible things we did...

My court case is a simple misdemeanor... the "victim" whom I dated in a committed relationship turned out to be a federal snitch... and her son-in-law is a currently sitting elected official at the State Level... so... as you may be able to guess... I have problems...

in my quest to ascertain and investigate why my life went upside down and everything got very crazy...very fast..
Well lets just say that one mans investigation is being interpreted as threats and intimidation by the real criminals... you know... the government..

That is the short but accurate version of what has happened to me in the last 14 months.

Like I said... kids are due any minute and I am happy to report that my Attorney kicked the States Ass in court today!!

Remember this People... You Cannot Afford to NOT hire a Excellent Attorney...

Your freedom is worth every penny you have...

Today was a Prelimanary... the real show is in ten days... talk to you all tomorrow...

have a restful and Peaceful Evening you all... and thanks for the kind words of support!!
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i will tell you this. in they can make the mental B/S stick, say bye bye to any weapons you might have. good luck OP and we'll talk tomorrow.
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
the reason some would consider me extremely important is not really important at this time, and would detract from what is happening, and our exchange of information. what is important here is that you demand your privacy back people. a life without privacy is like being in an electronic prison. And a prison is a prison is a prison.....
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I hear ya OP. What is the charge? and how bad did you piss her off?
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
Just take the battery out of the phone,
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Nope.

Did you know there is a hidden back-up power source in your phone?

It can hold out for quite a few minutes, time dependent on what functions are being accessed.

You can still be tracked, photographed and eavesdropped upon, as well as have your data searched and downloaded, all with the battery removed.

At least until the back-up dies.

If you want to stay untraceable, buy one of those "disposable" phones...with cash...along with minutes cards...with cash. Every city has ghetto corner stores that sell these, as they are a favorite of drug dealers.

They buy new phones every few days, so no one can get a "lock" on who owns the phone. They also move around the hood quite a bit, staying at apartments all over the place.

Still not untraceable, but you would make them work to find out who you are and where you are that day.

Alternatively build a Farrday cage/box for your cell phone and keep it in your car. It can be as small as you want it to be. Your cell phone will NOT get any reception or incoming calls while you have it in the cage. It is effectively "dead".

As soon as you take it out of the cage, your phone will go "live". So you can pick and choose where and when you want to activate your phone.
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No time to respond...must be in court in 45 minutes ... the Government is filing motions saying I have been threatening them....this is in response to my disclosures here... they are probably livid that they are exposed as the evil and corrupt snoops and spies that they are...

Please Pray For me people... it is me against the entire US Govt.. I truly am doing this to help us all live in privacy and peace and dignity..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53260488



With all due respect OP (which isn't a lot IMHO).. I see a conundrum here.. You ask "Please Pray For me people" yet you have a blasphemous picture of my Lord and Savior as your avatar.

What until you really learn something. Like, you can't have it both ways. You can't degradate God and then expect covering and blessings. There is such a thing as the Law of Reciprocity.

My advice is instead of freaking out over what you perceive is happening.. Give your life to Jesus Christ and your family will follow. You are perilously close to running on empty.

Do you honestly in your heart of hearts.. think this situation is going to improve? It will only intensify.

I will say a prayer for you.. but not for what you think
hf
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OP....... I don't like your avatar.

With that said, you do have some understanding of what is happening.

Everyone should read the King James Bible, Revelation 13 completely.

The USA is the 2nd beast of Revelation 13

First beast of Revelation 13: the Vatican (1)


First beast of Revelation 13: the Vatican (2)



And here is the USA and the power that it will wield over the entire world. Read what the OP said about smart meters and cell phones and understand that he is talking about the 2nd beast of Revelation 13.

Specifically look here:

Revelation 13:4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?

Nobody has the military might of the USA. NOBODY. And it's going to be used against the entire world, including America.


Second beast of Revelation 13: the United States (1)



the USA is training with all of the various militaries around the world and creating a One World Military that will be led by the USA.

Joint training with other nations is designed to have everyone on the same page when the One World Military forms in front of everyone's eyes.

Pay close attention, ladies and gentlemen, because this official USA Navy commercial is telling us that it is a GLOBAL FORCE.

GLOBAL = WORLD

WORLD = New World Order

AMERICA'S NAVY — A Global Force for Good


Who understands the times?
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who understands , Mr.Computer does hi
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OK...so within the last few months give or take a few..people have noticed they've gone though cities and more rural area's and put boxes on the bottom of these boxes there's a green light (right now anyhow) on them, they're all over the place, on the power poles, maybe a few or several miles apart from each other..when asked about what these things are, by more than one person, they were all told this was some sort of box for the 'cable company'.. no one believes that though.

Some have speculated that they could be camera's..whatever they are, they've never been installed or anything like them until the last 6 months or so.. got a picture of one somewhere..
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the only way I have figured around this problem... is to leave your phone in the car... and walk the last few blocks to your destination....
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Uh, don't have a frigging cell phone.
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
No time to respond...must be in court in 45 minutes ... the Government is filing motions saying I have been threatening them....this is in response to my disclosures here... they are probably livid that they are exposed as the evil and corrupt snoops and spies that they are...

Please Pray For me people... it is me against the entire US Govt.. I truly am doing this to help us all live in privacy and peace and dignity..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53260488


Seriously? The gov`t has you in court already after one day of exposing them here? You lost all credibility after this post.
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^ THIS
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
My court case is from august... I can complain all I want... The problem is that my complaints are being twisted into threats.. And the ravings of someone with mental illness.. All with the goal of shutting me up...
I did not come here for approval... If you dont like my avatar.. You are too narrow minded and should go preach elsewhere... I suspect that back in the day... Jesus probably flipped off the moneychangers.. And was unafraid to confront the government officials who proscecuted him...
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My court case is from august... I can complain all I want... The problem is that my complaints are being twisted into threats.. And the ravings of someone with mental illness.. All with the goal of shutting me up...
I did not come here for approval... If you dont like my avatar.. You are too narrow minded and should go preach elsewhere... I suspect that back in the day... Jesus probably flipped off the moneychangers.. And was unafraid to confront the government officials who proscecuted him...
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to spy on whoever they want...whenever they want...
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1984 told ya already, your last line of privacy is in your own head.
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hey feisty little chick... I read your message to me... You actually degraded me and came across as condescending...

People like you are what and who Jesus Preached against his whole Ministry.

I mean really FLC... who are YOU to tell me a damn thing about Religion, Faith, Jesus or the Bible. Just because you have elevated yourself into a position where you feel like you can school me...Your sick and evil attack on me is the biggest sin of all... Don`t judge people FLC... God might freeze you out...

Leave the heavy lifting to God... He can handle it and surely does not need your help. In all honesty...people like you just get in the way...muddy the waters... and make regular Christian people look bad.

I am not attacking you...it is all self - defense...
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Re: I figured out the hard way.. the NSA is using Smart meters and internet over power lines...
No time to respond...must be in court in 45 minutes ... the Government is filing motions saying I have been threatening them....this is in response to my disclosures here... they are probably livid that they are exposed as the evil and corrupt snoops and spies that they are...

Please Pray For me people... it is me against the entire US Govt.. I truly am doing this to help us all live in privacy and peace and dignity..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53260488


takes more than a day to get the court route rolling, to blame it on what you said a day ago proves you sir are full of it
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No time to respond...must be in court in 45 minutes ... the Government is filing motions saying I have been threatening them....this is in response to my disclosures here... they are probably livid that they are exposed as the evil and corrupt snoops and spies that they are...

Please Pray For me people... it is me against the entire US Govt.. I truly am doing this to help us all live in privacy and peace and dignity..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53260488


they mad at u, bro?


bsflag


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hey feisty little chick... I read your message to me... You actually degraded me and came across as condescending...

People like you are what and who Jesus Preached against his whole Ministry.

I mean really FLC... who are YOU to tell me a damn thing about Religion, Faith, Jesus or the Bible. Just because you have elevated yourself into a position where you feel like you can school me...Your sick and evil attack on me is the biggest sin of all... Don`t judge people FLC... God might freeze you out...

Leave the heavy lifting to God... He can handle it and surely does not need your help. In all honesty...people like you just get in the way...muddy the waters... and make regular Christian people look bad.

I am not attacking you...it is all self - defense...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53260488


your avatar shows your lack of respect for Jesus,
don't demean yourself by quoting Him now.

Last Edited by beeches on 01/25/2014 09:30 PM
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You got some new fancy smart appliance for the wife or maybe a smart 3D tv for the kids or maybe that Xbox4 or that new car with all kinds of safety options and a nice new cellphone and tablet and google glasses and that wifi camera and that computer with windows 8 or some kinda wifi router all on the blazingly fast cable line or a smart water meter or smart gas meter.

You been hacked and they got you now.

Its the way of the new world order.

Your driver license will be chipped along with your credit debit card and clothing and shoes and fillings in those nasty teeth you pay lots a money to keep all shiny and glittering.

Did you know even if you pull the batteries from a wifi device it retains a charge from capacitors built in. And did you know high power wires can power your device enough to geo locate you and from that cellphones mac address they know its you down there creeping around in the shadows.

That smart appliance does the same thing with residual capacitive charge to power a micro transmitter that a satellite can detect and zoom in on.

Technology is so advanced and secret, you don't know the half of it and if you did, what are you gonna do about it.

Live in a cave like obama osama
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Jesse ventuuraa has a prgram on targeted individuals, its a must see.

Word to the uninitiated with regards to the smart meter. Complaining does no good..trust me on this one. I just moved to another state because of it. Instead of protesting and complaining, you must take action. Make the rule makers feel threatened. They walk amongst us with no regard to how their actions affect us all. Oh the good ole days when the towns people would tar and feather the politicians. Good times.
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You have to make up scenarios that are out there or sound illegal then put them on the web or over the phone.Get a friend to work with you on some "drug deal",talk about it over the phone,make up a drop location and a time then head to said location and see who shows up. Take there picture license # and relay that info on craigslist. Do that a couple of times. You have to bog the system down to where its pointless to track you.





GLP