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Message Subject Why do you love Jesus ?
Poster Handle Anonymous Coward
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When my child died in a car accident , I did not want to live . I would call on Jesus in my weeping heap on the floor and His amazing peace would descend . Nothing else brought comfort , only Him and His love and peace AND hope .
You can't make that up .
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53199988



Ummm, yes you can. The human mind is resilient at coming up with bullshit to keep going. In fact you might say it is a programmed mental reset, a real Deus Ex Machina if you will.

I'm more in this camp:

"Is there in the whole world a being who would have the right to forgive and could forgive? I don't want harmony. From love for humanity I don't want it. I would rather be left with the unavenged suffering. I would rather remain with my unavenged suffering and unsatisfied indignation, even if I were wrong. Besides, too high a price is asked for harmony; it's beyond our means to pay so much to enter on it. And so I hasten to give back my entrance ticket, and if I am an honest man I am bound to give it back as soon as possible. And that I am doing. It's not God that I don't accept, Alyosha, only I most respectfully return him the ticket."
- Fyodor Dostoevsky, The Brothers Karamazov


Christianity is an unbalanced equation. So much evil, so much suffering, and no amount of grace, and no eternal pearly gates will ever make good on those that were ripped from this life before their time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52894529

You with all your intellectual argument, have no clue about the sudden loss of a beloved child and the love and grace of Jesus who carried me through that dark valley.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53199988


Actually, my intellectual argument is based on my own personal loss. What you call forgiveness, I call guilt aversion, and it is psychological transference at best, and at its worst, it is full blown psychosis. Dostoevsky got me through my dark valley, and if you want to believe in a God whose own holy book justifies the death of children who make fun of a bald prophet, then go right ahead. Plenty of children die every day in the most horrible, awful ways, and telling me Jesus welcomes them home with open arms, is bullshit, and changes nothing. Until people stop waiting for God to make things right, nothing will ever be right. I want accountability in the here and now, afterlife be damned. How many children have to die before Jesus comes back anyway? 2000 years of atrocities, 2000 years of infants being ripped apart for the amusement of the rich and powerful, and you want to talk about the love and forgiveness of Christ. I want retribution not salvation. Accepting that everything will be made right when you die, is just another lie by those who keep you powerless in your Christian paralysis.
 
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