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Mr Freeze joins the Fukushima Circus

 
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Ice ice, baby! TEPCO's latest genius plan to fix Fuku -the Ice Wall- started yesterday.

"Some have expressed doubts about the ice wall idea from its first suggestion. Mainly, because they had already played around with this technology at reactor 1, with disastrous results. In fact, the outcome of experimental ice wall number 1 is the reason why water has been backing up at the site, overflowing wells, and contributing to subsidence issues. So now, the solution is…let’s build an even bigger ice wall? For whatever reason, TEPCO has decided to now fight water with ice for real, and do it quickly. What we are about to witness is the most enormous and expensive nuclear experiment that’s ever been attempted, creating the largest man-made section of frozen earth on the planet, that has to be maintained for possibly hundreds of years, with no idea whether or not it will work. And, no idea whether it will further contribute to the backing-up, subsidence, and groundwater issues, that already occurred from failed ice wall experiment number 1, though I’m guessing it will. And all this is happening concurrently with the never-before-attempted-damaged-spent-fuel-removal-project going on at rickety-reactor number 4, but that’s a whole other story."

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“Big Problem”: Cracked floors in Fukushima reactors leaking into groundwater that’s rising and rising and rising due to Tepco wall — “Can no longer be stopped from getting in ocean” — “Worse than that… buildings now on mushy land”

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So, they are building a bigger Ice Wall now.

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"Highly contaminated water had started to accumulate in the basements of the Fukushima buildings early on, when crews began injecting hundreds of tons of water into the reactors after the earthquake, which had knocked out power to cooling systems. Groundwater then also started pouring into the basements through various cracks, adding to the problem. So it’s actually 2 big water problems, together. The somewhat misleading and drastically underestimated ’400 tons’ that comes to us from mainstream news ad nauseam is courtesy of the Japanese Ministry of Economy, Trade and Industry. What METI fails to point out is that an additional 1000-4000 tons move through Daiichi every day, due to an underground aquifer. So what we actually are dealing with is upwards of 4400 tons making contact with the 3 molten corium blobs, somewhere under the plant, every single day, for almost 3 years now — and then pouring into the Pacific endlessly."
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"Bill Horak, Chair of nuclear science and technology at Brookhaven National Laboratory in New York, was also skeptical about the ice wall idea when interviewed in September of 2013. “There’s an aquifer underneath the plant that runs out to the sea, like an underground river,” he told ABC News. “It picks up contaminants that have leaked into the ground, and no one has a good handle on how contaminated that water is.” Horak also isn’t sure either whether Japan’s ambitious project is the right direction to head in, but he offered an extremely lame analogy, anyway. “When we had a leak at Brookhaven about 13 or 14 years ago, we put in a bunch of wells to pump the water before it got off site,” he said. The lab kept the water in a closed loop and played the waiting game for the radioactive element tritium to decay naturally. “I don’t know if anyone has actually tried this frozen wall concept for this type of activity.” No Bill, they haven’t. You would think the Chair of nuclear science and technology at Brookhaven would have known that, but whatever. And, you would also think he would recognize the difference between ‘a leak’ at Brookhaven, and ‘thousands of tons pouring’ at Fukushima."
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You'd think that the brightest minds on Earth could come-up with something better than an 'ice wall'.

I'm no scientist but it sounds ridiculous.
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"and ‘thousands of tons pouring’ at Fukushima."
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can't we peddle this to some alien race, like cosmic crack?
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This is why the Japs are inferior to us...they can only duplicate, reverse engineer, and make our products cheaper, they can't think their way out of a wet paper bag...I've said for years now that the solution is to bury the whole series of reactors in silica sand mixed with a few other chemicals, so that it will melt and hermetically seal them in glass.

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This is why the Japs are inferior to us...they can only duplicate, reverse engineer, and make our products cheaper, they can't think their way out of a wet paper bag...I've said for years now that the solution is to bury the whole series of reactors in silica sand mixed with a few other chemicals, so that it will melt and hermetically seal them in glass.
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Not bad...

I agree with the idea of 'total containment'. Anything less is pissing in the hot wind.
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This is why the Japs are inferior to us...they can only duplicate, reverse engineer, and make our products cheaper, they can't think their way out of a wet paper bag...I've said for years now that the solution is to bury the whole series of reactors in silica sand mixed with a few other chemicals, so that it will melt and hermetically seal them in glass.
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They should have learnt from WWII not to play with nukes..
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This is why the Japs are inferior to us...they can only duplicate, reverse engineer, and make our products cheaper, they can't think their way out of a wet paper bag...I've said for years now that the solution is to bury the whole series of reactors in silica sand mixed with a few other chemicals, so that it will melt and hermetically seal them in glass.
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New hole found today in reactor 2

Robot data reveals hole in Unit 2 suspected to be almost 10 square cm; Highly radioactive water draining out bottom of containment vessel — Tepco model shows molten fuel barely underwater — Temperature irregulaties started earlier this month

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bump
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