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Beautiful video of Heaven and Hell, who might be saved and what happens to the 'GREY' lukewarm church if they miss the rapture.

I believe only 1 in 1000 of us will be saved. We MUST be SINLESS and completely obedient to Jesus' Holy Spirit to enter Heaven.

May Jesus bless you and praise to God Yahweh Most High. Amen !


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Wait so you're sinless? LOL. Let me guess, don't tell me, you're a 7th day Adventist? You folks are very sly.
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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You bible thumping crazy Christians
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That poor little girl being forced into this crap she has bad dreams

That what this is about

Then to top it off glorifying it
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Yes it is sad that these things must take place, but this girl is not hurt by these things because Jesus gave her an assurance of eternal peace in God's Heaven.
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Every soul will enter heaven, some will have more work to do than others. God loves all his creations.
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

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Beautiful video of Heaven and Hell, who might be saved and what happens to the 'GREY' lukewarm church if they miss the rapture.

I believe only 1 in 1000 of us will be saved. We MUST be SINLESS and completely obedient to Jesus' Holy Spirit to enter Heaven.

May Jesus bless you and praise to God Yahweh Most High. Amen !


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Wait so you're sinless? LOL. Let me guess, don't tell me, you're a 7th day Adventist? You folks are very sly.
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I'm now trying to get my house in order. We are called to be sinless and this is what I am doing. The hour is late and the rapture is near. You must be sinless also if you wish to receive eternal life my blessed believer.

My brother in Christ I do not have any denomination, I have no relatives or friends who are believe in Christ and I have no Church. The only one I have fellowship with is Jesus Christ and those who the Lord Blesses me with over the internet.

No denominations here just plain old born again Christian.
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Every soul will enter heaven, some will have more work to do than others. God loves all his creations.
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No they will not, we must be sinless to enter Heaven, praise be to God !

1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
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Every soul will enter heaven, some will have more work to do than others. God loves all his creations.
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I meant to thumbs up you sorry brother I will pay you back another when I can next !
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Beautiful video of Heaven and Hell, who might be saved and what happens to the 'GREY' lukewarm church if they miss the rapture.

I believe only 1 in 1000 of us will be saved. We MUST be SINLESS and completely obedient to Jesus' Holy Spirit to enter Heaven.

May Jesus bless you and praise to God Yahweh Most High. Amen !


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Wait so you're sinless? LOL. Let me guess, don't tell me, you're a 7th day Adventist? You folks are very sly.
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I'm now trying to get my house in order. We are called to be sinless and this is what I am doing. The hour is late and the rapture is near. You must be sinless also if you wish to receive eternal life my blessed believer.

My brother in Christ I do not have any denomination, I have no relatives or friends who are believe in Christ and I have no Church. The only one I have fellowship with is Jesus Christ and those who the Lord Blesses me with over the internet.

No denominations here just plain old born again Christian.
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Like you I keep pressing forward. May we both grow to perfection and grace.
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I do not attend church, nor do I prey nightly. I do have a faith inside of me, it is not acted upon though.

I don't take this story, as the warning. I feel if a warning was to be sent, that warning would come to the person. We all have signs daily, that sign is personal between you and god.

To send the world a message through a little girl, just doesn't seem right. What about those who don't use the internet or tv? They cannot be saved?

God, Jesus and your life direction is personal between you and your creator. Not a middle man.

She could have been watching the magic school bus. Going to the sun. My kids love the show.
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I do not attend church, nor do I prey nightly. I do have a faith inside of me, it is not acted upon though.

I don't take this story, as the warning. I feel if a warning was to be sent, that warning would come to the person. We all have signs daily, that sign is personal between you and god.

To send the world a message through a little girl, just doesn't seem right. What about those who don't use the internet or tv? They cannot be saved?

God, Jesus and your life direction is personal between you and your creator. Not a middle man.

She could have been watching the magic school bus. Going to the sun. My kids love the show.
 Quoting: Monarch1980


That is a fair statement, you should truly work on your faith though, prayer is a wonderful gift you should use it :)

I believe this message was not for the world but for few it would touch, like this message will touch a few, maybe just one. All the other messages will touch just a few select, each message isn't for the whole world but for just a few. But there is so many messages that the whole world has been touched by God.

God's message achieves what he desires where ever it is spoken.
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Beautiful video of Heaven and Hell, who might be saved and what happens to the 'GREY' lukewarm church if they miss the rapture.

I believe only 1 in 1000 of us will be saved. We MUST be SINLESS and completely obedient to Jesus' Holy Spirit to enter Heaven.

May Jesus bless you and praise to God Yahweh Most High. Amen !


 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


Wait so you're sinless? LOL. Let me guess, don't tell me, you're a 7th day Adventist? You folks are very sly.
 Quoting: Rawrss


I'm now trying to get my house in order. We are called to be sinless and this is what I am doing. The hour is late and the rapture is near. You must be sinless also if you wish to receive eternal life my blessed believer.

My brother in Christ I do not have any denomination, I have no relatives or friends who are believe in Christ and I have no Church. The only one I have fellowship with is Jesus Christ and those who the Lord Blesses me with over the internet.

No denominations here just plain old born again Christian.
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You are confused dude, Jesus was the only person without sin, the WHOLE point of Jesus dying on the cross being the final sacrifice because he was spotless of sin.

BEFORE Jesus men would sacrifice lambs showing repentance from their sin and obediance. God promised there would be a final sacrifice, God himeself provided the ONLY sacrifice which would atone for our sins.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

God's PERFECT son Jesus Christ FULLFILLED GOds perfect requirement of God's perfect law.
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2 Corinthians 5:21

And that's the short version, re read the bible and don't follow false doctrine man, it can turn people away or confuse them.
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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I do not attend church, nor do I prey nightly. I do have a faith inside of me, it is not acted upon though.

I don't take this story, as the warning. I feel if a warning was to be sent, that warning would come to the person. We all have signs daily, that sign is personal between you and god.

To send the world a message through a little girl, just doesn't seem right. What about those who don't use the internet or tv? They cannot be saved?

God, Jesus and your life direction is personal between you and your creator. Not a middle man.

She could have been watching the magic school bus. Going to the sun. My kids love the show.
 Quoting: Monarch1980


hf There is a lot of truth in what you say and believe. Why is it always the Church goers that always seem to talk to Jesus? I keep Jesus in my heart and talk to him all the time and I don't go to church and I don't believe he will burn or torture any soul, but I believe in reincarnation and karma. We will be our own judge and punisher.
KINGDOMS, NATIONS AND KINGS HAVE BEEN BROUGHT DOWN TO THEIR KNEES WITH ONE GLANCE FROM A WOMAN.

I WEAR MY SKIN OF ARMOR SO NO ONE CAN GET IN AND NO ONE CAN GET OUT.

HOW CAN I MOURN YOU, WHEN I HAVE NEVER LET YOU GO, monster 1991-2008 RIP
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I do not attend church, nor do I prey nightly. I do have a faith inside of me, it is not acted upon though.

I don't take this story, as the warning. I feel if a warning was to be sent, that warning would come to the person. We all have signs daily, that sign is personal between you and god.

To send the world a message through a little girl, just doesn't seem right. What about those who don't use the internet or tv? They cannot be saved?

God, Jesus and your life direction is personal between you and your creator. Not a middle man.

She could have been watching the magic school bus. Going to the sun. My kids love the show.
 Quoting: Monarch1980


you don't know what your talking about God does speak through little children maybe you need to read the bible to understand that
Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
Matthew 21:16
"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you, Lord, have called forth your praise'?"
1 Corinthians 1:27
But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

wasn't King David just a boy !
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I do not attend church, nor do I prey nightly. I do have a faith inside of me, it is not acted upon though.

I don't take this story, as the warning. I feel if a warning was to be sent, that warning would come to the person. We all have signs daily, that sign is personal between you and god.

To send the world a message through a little girl, just doesn't seem right. What about those who don't use the internet or tv? They cannot be saved?

God, Jesus and your life direction is personal between you and your creator. Not a middle man.

She could have been watching the magic school bus. Going to the sun. My kids love the show.
 Quoting: Monarch1980


hf There is a lot of truth in what you say and believe. Why is it always the Church goers that always seem to talk to Jesus? I keep Jesus in my heart and talk to him all the time and I don't go to church and I don't believe he will burn or torture any soul, but I believe in reincarnation and karma. We will be our own judge and punisher.
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But friend that isn't what Jesus taught us ? He taught us that only the sinless will inherit the Kingdom of God.
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Every soul will enter heaven, some will have more work to do than others. God loves all his creations.
 Quoting: MONSTER


No they will not, we must be sinless to enter Heaven, praise be to God !

1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


So then Jesus died for nothing and the whole net testament, and old testament prophecies about Jesus have to be false.

This is a doctrine of the devil man, you CAN'T save your self, that's the whole point of needing Jesus, you are spreading lies.

I'm not saying once you're Christian continue to sin, no that won't happen if you actually become BORN again you will hate sin and sinning will make you feel sad, depressed, etc because of He (Jesus) who lives inside of you the holy spirit.

No one is perfect.
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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I do not attend church, nor do I prey nightly. I do have a faith inside of me, it is not acted upon though.

I don't take this story, as the warning. I feel if a warning was to be sent, that warning would come to the person. We all have signs daily, that sign is personal between you and god.

To send the world a message through a little girl, just doesn't seem right. What about those who don't use the internet or tv? They cannot be saved?

God, Jesus and your life direction is personal between you and your creator. Not a middle man.

She could have been watching the magic school bus. Going to the sun. My kids love the show.
 Quoting: Monarch1980


you don't know what your talking about God does speak through little children maybe you need to read the bible to understand that
Matthew 11:25
At that time Jesus said, "I praise you, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because you have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children.
Matthew 21:16
"Do you hear what these children are saying?" they asked him. "Yes," replied Jesus, "have you never read, "'From the lips of children and infants you, Lord, have called forth your praise'?"
1 Corinthians 1:27
But God chose the foolish things of the world to shame the wise; God chose the weak things of the world to shame the strong.

wasn't King David just a boy !
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You're too angry, you needed to tell them with LOVE.

Please try to show the next person their mistake using love hf
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That isn't Jesus' choice
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So His claim about having all authority really doesn't mean much, I guess? Bummer.
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Every soul will enter heaven, some will have more work to do than others. God loves all his creations.
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Untrue , Yes GOD LOVES US ALL BUT MOST WILL NOT GO TO HEAVEN
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Prayed to Jesus that I wouldn't get 1 star votes. Started getting 2 star votes.

Praise Jesus in the Most High for even hearing my prayers.
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Prayed to Jesus that I wouldn't get 1 star votes
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damned
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I was given the holy spirit once as a souvenir after a visit with Christ. Its was good sensation. It left after about 20 seconds. Nice moment tho.

To me being filled with the holy spirit is a feeling of complete health and well being. Energy is just spilling out, kind of like being Captain America. Also I had an invisible friend who talked to me.

I'm skeptical of anyone who says they have the holy spirit and are missing one of these 3 things.
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I do not attend church, nor do I prey nightly. I do have a faith inside of me, it is not acted upon though.

I don't take this story, as the warning. I feel if a warning was to be sent, that warning would come to the person. We all have signs daily, that sign is personal between you and god.

To send the world a message through a little girl, just doesn't seem right. What about those who don't use the internet or tv? They cannot be saved?

God, Jesus and your life direction is personal between you and your creator. Not a middle man.

She could have been watching the magic school bus. Going to the sun. My kids love the show.
 Quoting: Monarch1980


hf There is a lot of truth in what you say and believe. Why is it always the Church goers that always seem to talk to Jesus? I keep Jesus in my heart and talk to him all the time and I don't go to church and I don't believe he will burn or torture any soul, but I believe in reincarnation and karma. We will be our own judge and punisher.
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But friend that isn't what Jesus taught us ? He taught us that only the sinless will inherit the Kingdom of God.
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This is where I have your back.

You are right in this post.

But most people will lose heart when they hear that. Because perfection takes work and it seems impossible. Many do not think life is good without certain pleasures, but they just can't see how those things kill, and that life is still great without overdoing it.

It is true that we all have sinned in this world except Jesus. But we are told to be perfect even as the Father in heaven is perfect.

To seek him and obey him.

We are told to grow in that love to perfection.

Then there is one who overcomes the world at end times to prove that Jesus was the truth. He testifies these things to this generation.

It also true that many will be saved who sin. These are those who are purified and refined through tribulation.

But to listen to those words is hard to understand and accept. I get that. It is accepting you have sinned and need punished. That is why it is important for us to be perfect in spirit so that the Father knows we do not need refined.

So yes there are sinners who will be perfected through tribulation and saved.

And yes there are those who perfected themselves by seeking the Father, and will be saved.

It is hard for people to accept that all their bad deeds will be remembered, because they will haunt the mind with much shame. So they won't even try to reflect on that shame to seek the Father and heal themselves.

These so called truth seekers and people who claim to be awake would be part of the next problem in anything rebuilt after this system falls. And history would repeat.

But this time, the Lord is going to set up an everlasting kingdom.

Sin = death = no one awake = no government will stand.

These words are hard to accept, but it is the truth.

Only when people learn to love can the society live in peace.

Remember God saw Adam was alone and it wasn't good.
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Correct me if I am wrong....but, isn't the whole point of the Rapture is to somehow escape 'Tribulation ?' The VERY thing that Jesus promised that His followers would expierence not only individually, but collectively as a group? The condition given for eternal life is...," IF " you endure....to the end.

Endure what? The same thing that Jesus endured ... obviously. Did Jesus escape persecution and tribulation? His very words testify that a servant is NOT above his Master, ...He promised what they did to Him would happen to His TRUE followers. The Rapture Doctrine of Escapism (what I call it.) is historically new when it comes to Christian Doctrines. There is no Scriptural support for this teaching that has infiltrated the churches.

This is the exact opposite of TRUTH.
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Prayed to Jesus that I wouldn't get 1 star votes. Started getting 2 star votes.

Praise Jesus in the Most High for even hearing my prayers.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

You don't WORK for gifts my friend.

You can't be sinless we will always sin, no one but Jesus is sinless man. You don't have to ignore my comments, I'm trying to correct you from spreading false doctrines, as it says to do in the bible.

Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Again you don't work to receive your free gift of eternal life.
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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Prayed to Jesus that I wouldn't get 1 star votes. Started getting 2 star votes.

Praise Jesus in the Most High for even hearing my prayers.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

You don't WORK for gifts my friend.

You can't be sinless we will always sin, no one but Jesus is sinless man. You don't have to ignore my comments, I'm trying to correct you from spreading false doctrines, as it says to do in the bible.

Ephesians 2:8-9 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Again you don't work to receive your free gift of eternal life.
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Correct, its like a lottery. Only one in 50,000 on earth win.
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Beautiful video of Heaven and Hell, who might be saved and what happens to the 'GREY' lukewarm church if they miss the rapture.

I believe only 1 in 1000 of us will be saved. We MUST be SINLESS and completely obedient to Jesus' Holy Spirit to enter Heaven.

May Jesus bless you and praise to God Yahweh Most High. Amen !


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Wait so you're sinless? LOL. Let me guess, don't tell me, you're a 7th day Adventist? You folks are very sly.
 Quoting: Rawrss


I'm now trying to get my house in order. We are called to be sinless and this is what I am doing. The hour is late and the rapture is near. You must be sinless also if you wish to receive eternal life my blessed believer.

My brother in Christ I do not have any denomination, I have no relatives or friends who are believe in Christ and I have no Church. The only one I have fellowship with is Jesus Christ and those who the Lord Blesses me with over the internet.

No denominations here just plain old born again Christian.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


You are confused dude, Jesus was the only person without sin, the WHOLE point of Jesus dying on the cross being the final sacrifice because he was spotless of sin.

BEFORE Jesus men would sacrifice lambs showing repentance from their sin and obediance. God promised there would be a final sacrifice, God himeself provided the ONLY sacrifice which would atone for our sins.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

God's PERFECT son Jesus Christ FULLFILLED GOds perfect requirement of God's perfect law.
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2 Corinthians 5:21

And that's the short version, re read the bible and don't follow false doctrine man, it can turn people away or confuse them.
 Quoting: Rawrss


So you're saying that Jesus died, and now we just sin and it's ok ? We're forgiven, Jesus died, so now let us sin and be merry.. NO.

Do you know who inherits the Kingdom of God ? Those who lived their lives like Christ. Those who are sinless like Jesus is, those who obey the Holy Spirit, and we can't receive the Holy Spirit if we sin..

Jesus died for our past sins, so that the sins we committed before we became sinless in Christ are cleansed and we don't need to be twice dead.

You are using Jesus' death to justify your sins. You can't sin anymore, you must repent and be HOLY, be PERFECT, be RIGHTEOUS.

You know who doesn't inherit the Kingdom of God ? Sinners !

You must stop sinning, did you HONESTLY think you were allowed to sin ?

1 Corinthians 6 7 The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
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I do not attend church, nor do I prey nightly. I do have a faith inside of me, it is not acted upon though.

I don't take this story, as the warning. I feel if a warning was to be sent, that warning would come to the person. We all have signs daily, that sign is personal between you and god.

To send the world a message through a little girl, just doesn't seem right. What about those who don't use the internet or tv? They cannot be saved?

God, Jesus and your life direction is personal between you and your creator. Not a middle man.

She could have been watching the magic school bus. Going to the sun. My kids love the show.
 Quoting: Monarch1980


hf There is a lot of truth in what you say and believe. Why is it always the Church goers that always seem to talk to Jesus? I keep Jesus in my heart and talk to him all the time and I don't go to church and I don't believe he will burn or torture any soul, but I believe in reincarnation and karma. We will be our own judge and punisher.
 Quoting: MONSTER


But friend that isn't what Jesus taught us ? He taught us that only the sinless will inherit the Kingdom of God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


This is where I have your back.

You are right in this post.

But most people will lose heart when they hear that. Because perfection takes work and it seems impossible. Many do not think life is good without certain pleasures, but they just can't see how those things kill, and that life is still great without overdoing it.

It is true that we all have sinned in this world except Jesus. But we are told to be perfect even as the Father in heaven is perfect.

To seek him and obey him.

We are told to grow in that love to perfection.

Then there is one who overcomes the world at end times to prove that Jesus was the truth. He testifies these things to this generation.

It also true that many will be saved who sin. These are those who are purified and refined through tribulation.

But to listen to those words is hard to understand and accept. I get that. It is accepting you have sinned and need punished. That is why it is important for us to be perfect in spirit so that the Father knows we do not need refined.

So yes there are sinners who will be perfected through tribulation and saved.

And yes there are those who perfected themselves by seeking the Father, and will be saved.

It is hard for people to accept that all their bad deeds will be remembered, because they will haunt the mind with much shame. So they won't even try to reflect on that shame to seek the Father and heal themselves.

These so called truth seekers and people who claim to be awake would be part of the next problem in anything rebuilt after this system falls. And history would repeat.

But this time, the Lord is going to set up an everlasting kingdom.

Sin = death = no one awake = no government will stand.

These words are hard to accept, but it is the truth.

Only when people learn to love can the society live in peace.

Remember God saw Adam was alone and it wasn't good.
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What you just said contradicts the whole new testament and especially Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

I'm sure I'm talking to an 7th day adventist here so I won't get far with posting scriptures from the bible, you will just use Ellen White's interpretations, Ellen White is a false prophet just like Joseph Smith.
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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Correct me if I am wrong....but, isn't the whole point of the Rapture is to somehow escape 'Tribulation ?' The VERY thing that Jesus promised that His followers would expierence not only individually, but collectively as a group? The condition given for eternal life is...," IF " you endure....to the end.

Endure what? The same thing that Jesus endured ... obviously. Did Jesus escape persecution and tribulation? His very words testify that a servant is NOT above his Master, ...He promised what they did to Him would happen to His TRUE followers. The Rapture Doctrine of Escapism (what I call it.) is historically new when it comes to Christian Doctrines. There is no Scriptural support for this teaching that has infiltrated the churches.

This is the exact opposite of TRUTH.
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Jesus is not a wife beater, his bride will escape before the tribulation.

Like Lot and his family escaped Sodom and Gomorrah, except the wife who looked back because she loved the world. She was destroyed.

This is a pre shadow of the rapture. Jesus will not let his bride be in harms way.

May Jesus bless you hf
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Correct me if I am wrong....but, isn't the whole point of the Rapture is to somehow escape 'Tribulation ?' The VERY thing that Jesus promised that His followers would expierence not only individually, but collectively as a group? The condition given for eternal life is...," IF " you endure....to the end.

Endure what? The same thing that Jesus endured ... obviously. Did Jesus escape persecution and tribulation? His very words testify that a servant is NOT above his Master, ...He promised what they did to Him would happen to His TRUE followers. The Rapture Doctrine of Escapism (what I call it.) is historically new when it comes to Christian Doctrines. There is no Scriptural support for this teaching that has infiltrated the churches.

This is the exact opposite of TRUTH.
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Yes it is important not to desire the snatching away. You are right about that. Because you think yourself escaped and fall slack to the law.

But it is written in more than one place there will be those who are alive. But that is not for us to know who will be alive. That is the Lord.

I am ready to follow my king to death. Because I am preparing myself in mind through prayer. Asking the Father to see me through it knowing what is involved. Can't overcome the world without being just like Jesus.

This world will have proof Jesus was the truth, because one of us is going to overcome the world in mind, heart, and spirit. And then people will know.
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hf There is a lot of truth in what you say and believe. Why is it always the Church goers that always seem to talk to Jesus? I keep Jesus in my heart and talk to him all the time and I don't go to church and I don't believe he will burn or torture any soul, but I believe in reincarnation and karma. We will be our own judge and punisher.
 Quoting: MONSTER


But friend that isn't what Jesus taught us ? He taught us that only the sinless will inherit the Kingdom of God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


This is where I have your back.

You are right in this post.

But most people will lose heart when they hear that. Because perfection takes work and it seems impossible. Many do not think life is good without certain pleasures, but they just can't see how those things kill, and that life is still great without overdoing it.

It is true that we all have sinned in this world except Jesus. But we are told to be perfect even as the Father in heaven is perfect.

To seek him and obey him.

We are told to grow in that love to perfection.

Then there is one who overcomes the world at end times to prove that Jesus was the truth. He testifies these things to this generation.

It also true that many will be saved who sin. These are those who are purified and refined through tribulation.

But to listen to those words is hard to understand and accept. I get that. It is accepting you have sinned and need punished. That is why it is important for us to be perfect in spirit so that the Father knows we do not need refined.

So yes there are sinners who will be perfected through tribulation and saved.

And yes there are those who perfected themselves by seeking the Father, and will be saved.

It is hard for people to accept that all their bad deeds will be remembered, because they will haunt the mind with much shame. So they won't even try to reflect on that shame to seek the Father and heal themselves.

These so called truth seekers and people who claim to be awake would be part of the next problem in anything rebuilt after this system falls. And history would repeat.

But this time, the Lord is going to set up an everlasting kingdom.

Sin = death = no one awake = no government will stand.

These words are hard to accept, but it is the truth.

Only when people learn to love can the society live in peace.

Remember God saw Adam was alone and it wasn't good.
 Quoting: lost sheep


What you just said contradicts the whole new testament and especially Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

I'm sure I'm talking to an 7th day adventist here so I won't get far with posting scriptures from the bible, you will just use Ellen White's interpretations, Ellen White is a false prophet just like Joseph Smith.
 Quoting: Rawrss


You are talking to born again Christians, Jesus' bride.

Do you believe in your heart that Jesus died and now we can sin ? Do you truly believe Jesus' death is a ticket to allowing us to sin ? Do you think sinners can go to Heaven ? Do you think sinners avoid Hell ?

You need to stop sinning and receive the Holy Spirit.