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Every soul will enter heaven, some will have more work to do than others. God loves all his creations.
 Quoting: MONSTER


No they will not, we must be sinless to enter Heaven, praise be to God !

1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


So then Jesus died for nothing and the whole net testament, and old testament prophecies about Jesus have to be false.

This is a doctrine of the devil man, you CAN'T save your self, that's the whole point of needing Jesus, you are spreading lies.

I'm not saying once you're Christian continue to sin, no that won't happen if you actually become BORN again you will hate sin and sinning will make you feel sad, depressed, etc because of He (Jesus) who lives inside of you the holy spirit.

No one is perfect.
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Wait so you're sinless? LOL. Let me guess, don't tell me, you're a 7th day Adventist? You folks are very sly.
 Quoting: Rawrss


I'm now trying to get my house in order. We are called to be sinless and this is what I am doing. The hour is late and the rapture is near. You must be sinless also if you wish to receive eternal life my blessed believer.

My brother in Christ I do not have any denomination, I have no relatives or friends who are believe in Christ and I have no Church. The only one I have fellowship with is Jesus Christ and those who the Lord Blesses me with over the internet.

No denominations here just plain old born again Christian.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


You are confused dude, Jesus was the only person without sin, the WHOLE point of Jesus dying on the cross being the final sacrifice because he was spotless of sin.

BEFORE Jesus men would sacrifice lambs showing repentance from their sin and obediance. God promised there would be a final sacrifice, God himeself provided the ONLY sacrifice which would atone for our sins.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

God's PERFECT son Jesus Christ FULLFILLED GOds perfect requirement of God's perfect law.
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2 Corinthians 5:21

And that's the short version, re read the bible and don't follow false doctrine man, it can turn people away or confuse them.
 Quoting: Rawrss


So you're saying that Jesus died, and now we just sin and it's ok ? We're forgiven, Jesus died, so now let us sin and be merry.. NO.

Do you know who inherits the Kingdom of God ? Those who lived their lives like Christ. Those who are sinless like Jesus is, those who obey the Holy Spirit, and we can't receive the Holy Spirit if we sin..

Jesus died for our past sins, so that the sins we committed before we became sinless in Christ are cleansed and we don't need to be twice dead.

You are using Jesus' death to justify your sins. You can't sin anymore, you must repent and be HOLY, be PERFECT, be RIGHTEOUS.

You know who doesn't inherit the Kingdom of God ? Sinners !

You must stop sinning, did you HONESTLY think you were allowed to sin ?

1 Corinthians 6 7 The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


Dude you must of skipped my comment saying it isn't okay for us to just sin purposely because you wouldn't want to in the first place read my comment here. Thread: Little girl gets vision of Rapture and Tribulation, draws pictures. (Page 2)

And I'm not trying to Justify my sins, I'm not going to get into details because I don't want to be seen as being boastful, I ironed out a lot of my pass sins, lets leave it at that because in your eyes I would be one step from being perfect which I will never be until I die and go to heaven.

Oh wait in your views I can't get into heaven, I guess I have to WORK harder to get into heaven. Dang I guess I'm going to hell then.

Funny that you ignored those scriptures I posted, lol get real man.
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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hf There is a lot of truth in what you say and believe. Why is it always the Church goers that always seem to talk to Jesus? I keep Jesus in my heart and talk to him all the time and I don't go to church and I don't believe he will burn or torture any soul, but I believe in reincarnation and karma. We will be our own judge and punisher.
 Quoting: MONSTER


But friend that isn't what Jesus taught us ? He taught us that only the sinless will inherit the Kingdom of God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


This is where I have your back.

You are right in this post.

But most people will lose heart when they hear that. Because perfection takes work and it seems impossible. Many do not think life is good without certain pleasures, but they just can't see how those things kill, and that life is still great without overdoing it.

It is true that we all have sinned in this world except Jesus. But we are told to be perfect even as the Father in heaven is perfect.

To seek him and obey him.

We are told to grow in that love to perfection.

Then there is one who overcomes the world at end times to prove that Jesus was the truth. He testifies these things to this generation.

It also true that many will be saved who sin. These are those who are purified and refined through tribulation.

But to listen to those words is hard to understand and accept. I get that. It is accepting you have sinned and need punished. That is why it is important for us to be perfect in spirit so that the Father knows we do not need refined.

So yes there are sinners who will be perfected through tribulation and saved.

And yes there are those who perfected themselves by seeking the Father, and will be saved.

It is hard for people to accept that all their bad deeds will be remembered, because they will haunt the mind with much shame. So they won't even try to reflect on that shame to seek the Father and heal themselves.

These so called truth seekers and people who claim to be awake would be part of the next problem in anything rebuilt after this system falls. And history would repeat.

But this time, the Lord is going to set up an everlasting kingdom.

Sin = death = no one awake = no government will stand.

These words are hard to accept, but it is the truth.

Only when people learn to love can the society live in peace.

Remember God saw Adam was alone and it wasn't good.
 Quoting: lost sheep


What you just said contradicts the whole new testament and especially Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

I'm sure I'm talking to an 7th day adventist here so I won't get far with posting scriptures from the bible, you will just use Ellen White's interpretations, Ellen White is a false prophet just like Joseph Smith.
 Quoting: Rawrss


I'm saved not by works. None can be except Jesus. We have all sinned. That is true. I am not denying that.

But we are told to be perfect even as the Father in heaven is perfect.

If you think you can say "I believe in Jesus" and keep sinning knowing sin is wrong, then what can I say?

Our works in this world are of sin. We are not saved by our works but by the grace of the Father and Jesus who forgive us.

But hypocrisy is not in the law.

Not one letter of the law will be slack so that all things can be fulfilled.

Now is there sin to come. I do not know, but we are told to be perfect as Jesus was perfect.

People who think they can just say, I have faith, are greatly putting themselves to sleep.

For faith without works is dead.
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Every soul will enter heaven, some will have more work to do than others. God loves all his creations.
 Quoting: MONSTER


No they will not, we must be sinless to enter Heaven, praise be to God !

1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


So then Jesus died for nothing and the whole net testament, and old testament prophecies about Jesus have to be false.

This is a doctrine of the devil man, you CAN'T save your self, that's the whole point of needing Jesus, you are spreading lies.

I'm not saying once you're Christian continue to sin, no that won't happen if you actually become BORN again you will hate sin and sinning will make you feel sad, depressed, etc because of He (Jesus) who lives inside of you the holy spirit.

No one is perfect.
 Quoting: Rawrss


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I'm now trying to get my house in order. We are called to be sinless and this is what I am doing. The hour is late and the rapture is near. You must be sinless also if you wish to receive eternal life my blessed believer.

My brother in Christ I do not have any denomination, I have no relatives or friends who are believe in Christ and I have no Church. The only one I have fellowship with is Jesus Christ and those who the Lord Blesses me with over the internet.

No denominations here just plain old born again Christian.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


You are confused dude, Jesus was the only person without sin, the WHOLE point of Jesus dying on the cross being the final sacrifice because he was spotless of sin.

BEFORE Jesus men would sacrifice lambs showing repentance from their sin and obediance. God promised there would be a final sacrifice, God himeself provided the ONLY sacrifice which would atone for our sins.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

God's PERFECT son Jesus Christ FULLFILLED GOds perfect requirement of God's perfect law.
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2 Corinthians 5:21

And that's the short version, re read the bible and don't follow false doctrine man, it can turn people away or confuse them.
 Quoting: Rawrss


So you're saying that Jesus died, and now we just sin and it's ok ? We're forgiven, Jesus died, so now let us sin and be merry.. NO.

Do you know who inherits the Kingdom of God ? Those who lived their lives like Christ. Those who are sinless like Jesus is, those who obey the Holy Spirit, and we can't receive the Holy Spirit if we sin..

Jesus died for our past sins, so that the sins we committed before we became sinless in Christ are cleansed and we don't need to be twice dead.

You are using Jesus' death to justify your sins. You can't sin anymore, you must repent and be HOLY, be PERFECT, be RIGHTEOUS.

You know who doesn't inherit the Kingdom of God ? Sinners !

You must stop sinning, did you HONESTLY think you were allowed to sin ?

1 Corinthians 6 7 The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


Dude you must of skipped my comment saying it isn't okay for us to just sin purposely because you wouldn't want to in the first place read my comment here. Thread: Little girl gets vision of Rapture and Tribulation, draws pictures. (Page 2)

And I'm not trying to Justify my sins, I'm not going to get into details because I don't want to be seen as being boastful, I ironed out a lot of my pass sins, lets leave it at that because in your eyes I would be one step from being perfect which I will never be until I die and go to heaven.

Oh wait in your views I can't get into heaven, I guess I have to WORK harder to get into heaven. Dang I guess I'm going to hell then.

Funny that you ignored those scriptures I posted, lol get real man.
 Quoting: Rawrss


I didn't skip your verses, I used to be like you, arguing with people saying that we will never be sinless, so I know not to buy into your nonsense because I was severely punished for saying the same thing you are now.

We can be sinless, we must be sinless. It is by grace that we receive faith, no matter how unholy we were before we believed God's grace allows us faith.

No matter our works we can go to Heaven, IF we live like Jesus did. Those who are born again will not sin anymore, they cannot sin anymore, they are born of the Holy Spirit, and anyone who sins will perish unto Hell.

The works gospel means that no matter our works before we have faith, thanks to Christ we still may have faith. Once we have faith we must OBEY Jesus, and OBEY the Holy Spirit. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is to repent of sins, if we continue to sin the Holy Spirit will stop helping us to be Holy and we will backslide and end up in Hell.

Sins lead to death did you think they didn't ? God is not un just no matter how great or small your sins, if you sin your going to Hell !
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She left out the part about what Jesus's ship looks like
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My grace in words needs improvement. I will work harder on that.
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But friend that isn't what Jesus taught us ? He taught us that only the sinless will inherit the Kingdom of God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


This is where I have your back.

You are right in this post.

But most people will lose heart when they hear that. Because perfection takes work and it seems impossible. Many do not think life is good without certain pleasures, but they just can't see how those things kill, and that life is still great without overdoing it.

It is true that we all have sinned in this world except Jesus. But we are told to be perfect even as the Father in heaven is perfect.

To seek him and obey him.

We are told to grow in that love to perfection.

Then there is one who overcomes the world at end times to prove that Jesus was the truth. He testifies these things to this generation.

It also true that many will be saved who sin. These are those who are purified and refined through tribulation.

But to listen to those words is hard to understand and accept. I get that. It is accepting you have sinned and need punished. That is why it is important for us to be perfect in spirit so that the Father knows we do not need refined.

So yes there are sinners who will be perfected through tribulation and saved.

And yes there are those who perfected themselves by seeking the Father, and will be saved.

It is hard for people to accept that all their bad deeds will be remembered, because they will haunt the mind with much shame. So they won't even try to reflect on that shame to seek the Father and heal themselves.

These so called truth seekers and people who claim to be awake would be part of the next problem in anything rebuilt after this system falls. And history would repeat.

But this time, the Lord is going to set up an everlasting kingdom.

Sin = death = no one awake = no government will stand.

These words are hard to accept, but it is the truth.

Only when people learn to love can the society live in peace.

Remember God saw Adam was alone and it wasn't good.
 Quoting: lost sheep


What you just said contradicts the whole new testament and especially Ephesians 2:8-9
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

I'm sure I'm talking to an 7th day adventist here so I won't get far with posting scriptures from the bible, you will just use Ellen White's interpretations, Ellen White is a false prophet just like Joseph Smith.
 Quoting: Rawrss


You are talking to born again Christians, Jesus' bride.

Do you believe in your heart that Jesus died and now we can sin ? Do you truly believe Jesus' death is a ticket to allowing us to sin ? Do you think sinners can go to Heaven ? Do you think sinners avoid Hell ?

You need to stop sinning and receive the Holy Spirit.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


You won I'm done man I pray to Jesus that your eyes will be opened to the false doctrine you believe and that anyone who believes they have to work to be perfect to be saved won't fall for the lie.

Or maybe I have to work for that FREE GIFT... *sarcasm*
Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
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We bear witness brother smile_hear I have seen Jesus' miracles and his Holy Spirit.
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We bear witness brother smile_hear I have seen Jesus' miracles and his Holy Spirit.
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No they will not, we must be sinless to enter Heaven, praise be to God !

1 John 3:9 No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God's seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


So then Jesus died for nothing and the whole net testament, and old testament prophecies about Jesus have to be false.

This is a doctrine of the devil man, you CAN'T save your self, that's the whole point of needing Jesus, you are spreading lies.

I'm not saying once you're Christian continue to sin, no that won't happen if you actually become BORN again you will hate sin and sinning will make you feel sad, depressed, etc because of He (Jesus) who lives inside of you the holy spirit.

No one is perfect.
 Quoting: Rawrss


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You are confused dude, Jesus was the only person without sin, the WHOLE point of Jesus dying on the cross being the final sacrifice because he was spotless of sin.

BEFORE Jesus men would sacrifice lambs showing repentance from their sin and obediance. God promised there would be a final sacrifice, God himeself provided the ONLY sacrifice which would atone for our sins.

Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

God's PERFECT son Jesus Christ FULLFILLED GOds perfect requirement of God's perfect law.
"For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." 2 Corinthians 5:21

And that's the short version, re read the bible and don't follow false doctrine man, it can turn people away or confuse them.
 Quoting: Rawrss


So you're saying that Jesus died, and now we just sin and it's ok ? We're forgiven, Jesus died, so now let us sin and be merry.. NO.

Do you know who inherits the Kingdom of God ? Those who lived their lives like Christ. Those who are sinless like Jesus is, those who obey the Holy Spirit, and we can't receive the Holy Spirit if we sin..

Jesus died for our past sins, so that the sins we committed before we became sinless in Christ are cleansed and we don't need to be twice dead.

You are using Jesus' death to justify your sins. You can't sin anymore, you must repent and be HOLY, be PERFECT, be RIGHTEOUS.

You know who doesn't inherit the Kingdom of God ? Sinners !

You must stop sinning, did you HONESTLY think you were allowed to sin ?

1 Corinthians 6 7 The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


Dude you must of skipped my comment saying it isn't okay for us to just sin purposely because you wouldn't want to in the first place read my comment here. Thread: Little girl gets vision of Rapture and Tribulation, draws pictures. (Page 2)

And I'm not trying to Justify my sins, I'm not going to get into details because I don't want to be seen as being boastful, I ironed out a lot of my pass sins, lets leave it at that because in your eyes I would be one step from being perfect which I will never be until I die and go to heaven.

Oh wait in your views I can't get into heaven, I guess I have to WORK harder to get into heaven. Dang I guess I'm going to hell then.

Funny that you ignored those scriptures I posted, lol get real man.
 Quoting: Rawrss


I didn't skip your verses, I used to be like you, arguing with people saying that we will never be sinless, so I know not to buy into your nonsense because I was severely punished for saying the same thing you are now.

We can be sinless, we must be sinless. It is by grace that we receive faith, no matter how unholy we were before we believed God's grace allows us faith.

No matter our works we can go to Heaven, IF we live like Jesus did. Those who are born again will not sin anymore, they cannot sin anymore, they are born of the Holy Spirit, and anyone who sins will perish unto Hell.

The works gospel means that no matter our works before we have faith, thanks to Christ we still may have faith. Once we have faith we must OBEY Jesus, and OBEY the Holy Spirit. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is to repent of sins, if we continue to sin the Holy Spirit will stop helping us to be Holy and we will backslide and end up in Hell.

Sins lead to death did you think they didn't ? God is not un just no matter how great or small your sins, if you sin your going to Hell !
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


"The truth of the matter is that on our own and by our own efforts, we canít possibly be perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect. We donít love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. We donít love our neighbors as ourselves. We have a problem, and itís called sin. We are born with it and we cannot overcome the effects of it on our own. Sin radically affects us to our core. Sin affects what we do, say and think. In other words, it taints everything about us. Therefore, no matter how good we try to be, we will never meet Godís standard of perfection. The Bible says that all of our righteous deeds are like a ďpolluted garmentĒ (Isaiah 64:6). Our own righteousness is simply not good enough and never will be, no matter how hard we try."

"Thatís why Jesus lived a perfect life in full obedience to the law of God in thought, word and deed. Jesusí mission wasnít simply to die on the cross for our sins, but also to live a life of perfect righteousness. Theologians refer to this as the ďactive and passive obedience of Christ.Ē Active obedience refers to Christís life of sinless perfection. Everything He did was perfect. Passive obedience refers to Christís submission to the crucifixion. He went willingly to the cross and allowed Himself to be crucified without resisting (Isaiah 53:7). His passive obedience pays our sin debt before God, but it is the active obedience that really saves us and gives us the perfection God requires."

Read more: [link to www.gotquestions.org]
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I have to go to bed now, this guy explains it the best. Really think about what you're saying man what you believe isn't what the bible says unless you twist them to what you want them to say like what false teachers do.

Be truthful, are you a 7th day Adeventist? If not you might as well join them because this is what they believe.
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So then Jesus died for nothing and the whole net testament, and old testament prophecies about Jesus have to be false.

This is a doctrine of the devil man, you CAN'T save your self, that's the whole point of needing Jesus, you are spreading lies.

I'm not saying once you're Christian continue to sin, no that won't happen if you actually become BORN again you will hate sin and sinning will make you feel sad, depressed, etc because of He (Jesus) who lives inside of you the holy spirit.

No one is perfect.
 Quoting: Rawrss


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So you're saying that Jesus died, and now we just sin and it's ok ? We're forgiven, Jesus died, so now let us sin and be merry.. NO.

Do you know who inherits the Kingdom of God ? Those who lived their lives like Christ. Those who are sinless like Jesus is, those who obey the Holy Spirit, and we can't receive the Holy Spirit if we sin..

Jesus died for our past sins, so that the sins we committed before we became sinless in Christ are cleansed and we don't need to be twice dead.

You are using Jesus' death to justify your sins. You can't sin anymore, you must repent and be HOLY, be PERFECT, be RIGHTEOUS.

You know who doesn't inherit the Kingdom of God ? Sinners !

You must stop sinning, did you HONESTLY think you were allowed to sin ?

1 Corinthians 6 7 The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
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Dude you must of skipped my comment saying it isn't okay for us to just sin purposely because you wouldn't want to in the first place read my comment here. Thread: Little girl gets vision of Rapture and Tribulation, draws pictures. (Page 2)

And I'm not trying to Justify my sins, I'm not going to get into details because I don't want to be seen as being boastful, I ironed out a lot of my pass sins, lets leave it at that because in your eyes I would be one step from being perfect which I will never be until I die and go to heaven.

Oh wait in your views I can't get into heaven, I guess I have to WORK harder to get into heaven. Dang I guess I'm going to hell then.

Funny that you ignored those scriptures I posted, lol get real man.
 Quoting: Rawrss


I didn't skip your verses, I used to be like you, arguing with people saying that we will never be sinless, so I know not to buy into your nonsense because I was severely punished for saying the same thing you are now.

We can be sinless, we must be sinless. It is by grace that we receive faith, no matter how unholy we were before we believed God's grace allows us faith.

No matter our works we can go to Heaven, IF we live like Jesus did. Those who are born again will not sin anymore, they cannot sin anymore, they are born of the Holy Spirit, and anyone who sins will perish unto Hell.

The works gospel means that no matter our works before we have faith, thanks to Christ we still may have faith. Once we have faith we must OBEY Jesus, and OBEY the Holy Spirit. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is to repent of sins, if we continue to sin the Holy Spirit will stop helping us to be Holy and we will backslide and end up in Hell.

Sins lead to death did you think they didn't ? God is not un just no matter how great or small your sins, if you sin your going to Hell !
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


"The truth of the matter is that on our own and by our own efforts, we canít possibly be perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect. We donít love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. We donít love our neighbors as ourselves. We have a problem, and itís called sin. We are born with it and we cannot overcome the effects of it on our own. Sin radically affects us to our core. Sin affects what we do, say and think. In other words, it taints everything about us. Therefore, no matter how good we try to be, we will never meet Godís standard of perfection. The Bible says that all of our righteous deeds are like a ďpolluted garmentĒ (Isaiah 64:6). Our own righteousness is simply not good enough and never will be, no matter how hard we try."

"Thatís why Jesus lived a perfect life in full obedience to the law of God in thought, word and deed. Jesusí mission wasnít simply to die on the cross for our sins, but also to live a life of perfect righteousness. Theologians refer to this as the ďactive and passive obedience of Christ.Ē Active obedience refers to Christís life of sinless perfection. Everything He did was perfect. Passive obedience refers to Christís submission to the crucifixion. He went willingly to the cross and allowed Himself to be crucified without resisting (Isaiah 53:7). His passive obedience pays our sin debt before God, but it is the active obedience that really saves us and gives us the perfection God requires."

Read more: [link to www.gotquestions.org]
"

I have to go to bed now, this guy explains it the best. Really think about what you're saying man what you believe isn't what the bible says unless you twist them to what you want them to say like what false teachers do.

Be truthful, are you a 7th day Adeventist? If not you might as well join them because this is what they believe.
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I'm not of any denomination lying would be sin, I would have told you. I fellowship with Jesus and his Spirit is my priest.

The Holy Spirit is what helps us to stop sinning and remain faithful. But we must repent to receive the Holy Spirit, then he will help us avoid temptation and guide us into all truths.

We must not sin, we must not justify sin !

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Maybe one of you more informed folks can help me.
Are we living in a world controlled by Satan/Sin now?

Or are we waiting for Satan to come and take control before Christ comes back?

Thanks
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Maybe one of you more informed folks can help me.
Are we living in a world controlled by Satan/Sin now?

Or are we waiting for Satan to come and take control before Christ comes back?

Thanks
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Both my friend,

Satan control the world in Heaven now, and during the tribulation Satan is be thrown to earth and given even greater power of the world.

Jesus be with you peace
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So then Jesus died for nothing and the whole net testament, and old testament prophecies about Jesus have to be false.

This is a doctrine of the devil man, you CAN'T save your self, that's the whole point of needing Jesus, you are spreading lies.

I'm not saying once you're Christian continue to sin, no that won't happen if you actually become BORN again you will hate sin and sinning will make you feel sad, depressed, etc because of He (Jesus) who lives inside of you the holy spirit.

No one is perfect.
 Quoting: Rawrss


...


So you're saying that Jesus died, and now we just sin and it's ok ? We're forgiven, Jesus died, so now let us sin and be merry.. NO.

Do you know who inherits the Kingdom of God ? Those who lived their lives like Christ. Those who are sinless like Jesus is, those who obey the Holy Spirit, and we can't receive the Holy Spirit if we sin..

Jesus died for our past sins, so that the sins we committed before we became sinless in Christ are cleansed and we don't need to be twice dead.

You are using Jesus' death to justify your sins. You can't sin anymore, you must repent and be HOLY, be PERFECT, be RIGHTEOUS.

You know who doesn't inherit the Kingdom of God ? Sinners !

You must stop sinning, did you HONESTLY think you were allowed to sin ?

1 Corinthians 6 7 The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
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Dude you must of skipped my comment saying it isn't okay for us to just sin purposely because you wouldn't want to in the first place read my comment here. Thread: Little girl gets vision of Rapture and Tribulation, draws pictures. (Page 2)

And I'm not trying to Justify my sins, I'm not going to get into details because I don't want to be seen as being boastful, I ironed out a lot of my pass sins, lets leave it at that because in your eyes I would be one step from being perfect which I will never be until I die and go to heaven.

Oh wait in your views I can't get into heaven, I guess I have to WORK harder to get into heaven. Dang I guess I'm going to hell then.

Funny that you ignored those scriptures I posted, lol get real man.
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I didn't skip your verses, I used to be like you, arguing with people saying that we will never be sinless, so I know not to buy into your nonsense because I was severely punished for saying the same thing you are now.

We can be sinless, we must be sinless. It is by grace that we receive faith, no matter how unholy we were before we believed God's grace allows us faith.

No matter our works we can go to Heaven, IF we live like Jesus did. Those who are born again will not sin anymore, they cannot sin anymore, they are born of the Holy Spirit, and anyone who sins will perish unto Hell.

The works gospel means that no matter our works before we have faith, thanks to Christ we still may have faith. Once we have faith we must OBEY Jesus, and OBEY the Holy Spirit. The only way to receive the Holy Spirit is to repent of sins, if we continue to sin the Holy Spirit will stop helping us to be Holy and we will backslide and end up in Hell.

Sins lead to death did you think they didn't ? God is not un just no matter how great or small your sins, if you sin your going to Hell !
 Quoting: Jesusobsessed


"The truth of the matter is that on our own and by our own efforts, we canít possibly be perfect as our heavenly Father is perfect. We donít love God with all our heart, soul, mind and strength. We donít love our neighbors as ourselves. We have a problem, and itís called sin. We are born with it and we cannot overcome the effects of it on our own. Sin radically affects us to our core. Sin affects what we do, say and think. In other words, it taints everything about us. Therefore, no matter how good we try to be, we will never meet Godís standard of perfection. The Bible says that all of our righteous deeds are like a ďpolluted garmentĒ (Isaiah 64:6). Our own righteousness is simply not good enough and never will be, no matter how hard we try."

"Thatís why Jesus lived a perfect life in full obedience to the law of God in thought, word and deed. Jesusí mission wasnít simply to die on the cross for our sins, but also to live a life of perfect righteousness. Theologians refer to this as the ďactive and passive obedience of Christ.Ē Active obedience refers to Christís life of sinless perfection. Everything He did was perfect. Passive obedience refers to Christís submission to the crucifixion. He went willingly to the cross and allowed Himself to be crucified without resisting (Isaiah 53:7). His passive obedience pays our sin debt before God, but it is the active obedience that really saves us and gives us the perfection God requires."

Read more: [link to www.gotquestions.org]
"

I have to go to bed now, this guy explains it the best. Really think about what you're saying man what you believe isn't what the bible says unless you twist them to what you want them to say like what false teachers do.

Be truthful, are you a 7th day Adeventist? If not you might as well join them because this is what they believe.
 Quoting: Rawrss


If one doesn't play the game then one can't succeed. If one doesn't try then you can't succeed. One of Satan's greatest lies is telling people they can't follow Jesus.

Revelations 3:21

"to him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, EVEN AS I OVERCAME, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

Perfection will come. The path is there. We are told to obey the law people.

To promote anything beyond striving for perfection is not wise.

This is how the world is idle in the law.

This is how they deceive true followers who believe in Jesus by trying with all their mind, heart, and spirit to be like him.

And as the scripture states we CAN OVERCOME just as he did.

Don't let anyone tell you differently.
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How can people believe this crap?
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I also follow Jesus and the teachings, and do not claim to be any sect of religion outside of the truth in obeying the law.
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Correct me if I am wrong....but, isn't the whole point of the Rapture is to somehow escape 'Tribulation ?' The VERY thing that Jesus promised that His followers would expierence not only individually, but collectively as a group? The condition given for eternal life is...," IF " you endure....to the end.

Endure what? The same thing that Jesus endured ... obviously. Did Jesus escape persecution and tribulation? His very words testify that a servant is NOT above his Master, ...He promised what they did to Him would happen to His TRUE followers. The Rapture Doctrine of Escapism (what I call it.) is historically new when it comes to Christian Doctrines. There is no Scriptural support for this teaching that has infiltrated the churches.

This is the exact opposite of TRUTH.
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Jesus is not a wife beater, his bride will escape before the tribulation.

Like Lot and his family escaped Sodom and Gomorrah, except the wife who looked back because she loved the world. She was destroyed.

This is a pre shadow of the rapture. Jesus will not let his bride be in harms way.

May Jesus bless you hf
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In one respect this is true. But....there is no whisking away to heaven. There is a misinterpretation of what it means to 'meet Jesus in the air'... it means simply to be lifted up in our atmosphere ,not to heaven.... the protection is there while ENDURING the tribulation. Remember that this is the time of Jacobs Trouble. Jacob, not Nebuchadnezzer. Jacob, chosen through the messiah. A testing of faith. Tribulation is the refining fire of perfection.. To suggest any physical escape is absurd. The only physical escape is death in the hope of the ressurection, or 'The Change ', which happens at the same time as the first ressurection. At the last trump. He is met here, in the air, on earth. Not heaven.
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Can you refrain from posting religious material on a conspiracy site please ?
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no she hasnt.

she has merely drawn a picture depicting what her religion said would happen.
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endofdays We must all choose whom we will serve. bridea


1Th 5:2 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.

2Pe 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up
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It's not that I hate Jesus, I just don't believe he ever existed. I love the message of love he supposedly preached, but the intolerance of his followers is hugely disappointing.
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You don't love the message Jesus preached because Jesus preached that we be intolerant of sin.
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No he didn't... Show me the words in red. He taught that all are sinners in either deeds or thoughts which are both equal in the eyes of god and that sinners can not judge a sinner. He also taught that secular laws of morality are useless and that you as a christian should have zero thought of the secular world but should think only of your OWN salvation in the next.
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Did you know that satan is able to do all except to create?

Do you believe that satan also can give false dreams and visions?

I don't say that satan gave that girl this dream or vision, but remeber satan often says 99% truth and 1% lie.

The interesting part of this video is, that out of about 30 persons about 3 were from the church this little girl is beloning to.

So 10% of all saved people are only from that one church.
To be honest... hard to believe.

One more thing...

Did you know that there are also fallen angels?
I could imagine that they are also able to masquarade as angels of the light/good, even satan, aka lucifer is known as the light bearer.

Before I would enter a bus I would ask that angel/being:
"Did Jesus come in the flesh?"

More information in this thread:
Thread: The most important question... First Contact/Aliens

Depending on the answer I would enter the bus or would stay where I am.

It's also interesting, that the angels were 3 times taller than the humans. The first thought I had was about nephilim/giants.

There will be deceptions at the end of time.
Please be careful and try to verify all with the word of god

hf

God bless!

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You can't one star this little girl whats wrong with you ?!
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Sure you can....but ..I won't. ... Any so called Christian that believes God would throw a person into eternal Hell fire does not understand their God and clings to a satanic teaching . There is no Hell , bad translations in the bible create this fictional place . Ezekiel 28 is a chapter all about Satan , about verse 19 Satan is burned up from within never to be again . This happens in Revelation 20 when he is cast into the lake of fire , to be completely consumed where only the smoke of his torment rises for ever , Satan is blotted out.

The rapture is another lie , so basically you posted a video about two different lies of Satan .

Jesus explained it completely in the parable of the wheat and tares , his Deciples came to Jesus asking for the meaning of this parable and Jesus told us straight out what it meant , no other interpretation is needed . The tares , the children of Satan are gathered first by angels , then other angels gather the wheat which represent the children of Jesus , this happens second .


The bible also tells us where the tares , the first to be gathered by angels and where they are taken to . Jesus also tells us of the Two who are at the mill grinding , one is taken and one is left behind , again Jesus tells us where they are taken to , they are taken to where the eagles are gathered . What are eagles and what do they represent ? Eagles are scavengers that eat dead carcasses , they are also representative of fallen angels who will gather the tares and feed on them so to speak .

There is no hell , only the lake of fire, and it's judgement at the end of the millenium. There is no rapture , the meek inherit the earth . We stay here just like in the days of Noah ,when God the Father took out all evil with a flood , this time all evil will be taken out by a purifying fire , and that would be Jesus . This is why we have the story of the three children in the book of Daniel , Nebuchadezzer throws them into a furnace bit Jesus protects them , just as he will protect his children today . We also have the gospel armor ,why have it of we are raptured ? It Does not make sense to have armor you will never use if you are raptured .

Wake ups you are under strong delusion for believing in a lie !!!
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Ok NOW I see what is going on

rapture= false doctrine
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"Any so called Christian that believes God would throw a person into eternal Hell fire does not understand their God and clings to a satanic teaching . There is no Hell , bad translations in the bible create this fictional place"

Bingo. You will be cast out as a heretic for this belief.
They are intentionally poisoning the well. I'm guessing this is a roman (Babylonian) operation as it has the hallmarks
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They are intentionally poisoning the well.
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That's more or less what the whole Wormwood thing is - it's polluted the living waters with carnal BS
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Maybe one of you more informed folks can help me.
Are we living in a world controlled by Satan/Sin now?

Or are we waiting for Satan to come and take control before Christ comes back?

Thanks
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Both my friend,

Satan control the world in Heaven now, and during the tribulation Satan is be thrown to earth and given even greater power of the world.

Jesus be with you peace
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Thank you for the reply and your thought.
My problem with the world we are in is the information we have. That is everything we think we know.
Example:
Christians or folks that believe the bible and blindly follow (without research), think they are right!! and any one else is a sinner.
Muslims or folks that believe the Quran and blindly follow (without research)think they are right and any one else should be killed.
Buddhist believe in Buddha and blindly follow (without research), think they are right!! and any one else is un-aware or un-educated.

But if Satan is in control of the planet, then he is also in control of all media, books, txts etc.

That means that the only true information you have to work with, must come directly from you. Not a book, or any thing else.

To me that means all this bickering about what is right, what verse is right, and what the outcome will be,,, Can only be PERSONAL.

Just my opinion as I believe the creator is the GREAT NEUTRAL.
I have a 5 year old boy. While I guide him, I do NOT tell him he should be this or that. That is his choice. I only show him what hurts him or others and what does not.

Does the girl in video have a father such as I? Or is she being programmed?

Last but not least. Please give me references (links) of proof that a person named "Jesus Christ" existed before 300ad!!

There was a man who did exist who was like the Biblical "Jesus" but that was not his name.

Please check when the Bible was first published for distribution and by whom?

Remember what your answer to my question was....

Kind Regards.
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no she hasnt.

she has merely drawn a picture depicting what her religion said would happen.
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While reading the Bible she fell into a state of being awake and asleep, she saw what happens after the rapture, and what happens in Hell.

Watch the video, it should come as a shock when you find the suns rays burn you alive like she was shown in her vision.

May Jesus bless you.
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Thread: Is it LOVE???...or DARK SINISTER HATE?????????

I think you show this very same attitude.

The above thread..read it and learn..IF you can still think a thought of your own.

I DARE you...you might learn something.

Or has your swollen arrogance blinded you?
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😳what a very dangerous attitude to tell people they must be without sin to be saved the only way even you yourself are with out sin my my friend is because Jesus died for you. We strive to sin less but telling people they must be without sin to be saved you will only make people feel afraid and hopeless and if you have succeeded in this I think I would be afraid if I were you
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