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Rawrss User ID: 28866057 United States 02/01/2014 04:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well shucks I guess we're all going to hell then... I'll be sure to work hard for my free gift of eternal life Seriously though I know I said I was going to bed but answer truthful are you a 7th day Adventist? Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. |
Jesusobsessed (OP) User ID: 53651305 Australia 02/01/2014 04:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well shucks I guess we're all going to hell then... I'll be sure to work hard for my free gift of eternal life Quoting: Rawrss Seriously though I know I said I was going to bed but answer truthful are you a 7th day Adventist? I fellowship with Jesus, I don't belong to a church. A church can't save me, only Jesus' Holy Spirit and sacrifice may save me. You will go to Hell if you keep sinning. Did you think other wise ? |
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Rawrss User ID: 28866057 United States 02/01/2014 04:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well shucks I guess we're all going to hell then... I'll be sure to work hard for my free gift of eternal life Quoting: Rawrss Seriously though I know I said I was going to bed but answer truthful are you a 7th day Adventist? I fellowship with Jesus, I don't belong to a church. A church can't save me, only Jesus' Holy Spirit and sacrifice may save me. You will go to Hell if you keep sinning. Did you think other wise ? How long have you been sinless/perfect? Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. |
Jesusobsessed (OP) User ID: 53651305 Australia 02/01/2014 04:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well shucks I guess we're all going to hell then... I'll be sure to work hard for my free gift of eternal life Quoting: Rawrss Seriously though I know I said I was going to bed but answer truthful are you a 7th day Adventist? I fellowship with Jesus, I don't belong to a church. A church can't save me, only Jesus' Holy Spirit and sacrifice may save me. You will go to Hell if you keep sinning. Did you think other wise ? How long have you been sinless/perfect? Perhaps a week or two. Now I seek the Holy Spirit and wait for Jesus to take me all the way to perfection. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52621665 United States 02/01/2014 04:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I followed the discussion on the other thread a bit, and agree with you on this. The misunderstanding was in the term "work", however - those guys were right, in that our works don't save us, but you're right in that we must be moving towards the holiness of Jesus (Christlikeness). The issue is about dying to self. The "old man" must be rendered dead and buried; otherwise he remains enthroned within and Jesus really has no place to sit. >Romans 6: Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? For he who has died has been freed from sin. >2 Corinthians 4: We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed— always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus’ sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. >Colossians 3: Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Those bulls and goats of the old testament rites represent *us*, obstinate and stubborn. . .the "flesh", or defective human nature must be burned away. God does this via "fiery trials", which equal sharing in Christ's sufferings (1 Peter 4). This is a vital matter which lukewarm Laodicean Christianity is not even familiar with. This is what's wrong with us. We may talk a good game, but talk is cheap. Most of us can't even handle being called names or challenged by others on GLP - how the @#$% would we handle real, actual persecution? Christians in other countries pray for us, because we're soft and pampered. We largely have not faced the kinds of ordeals that "trim away the fat", so to speak. When your life is in danger or you don't know where our next meal is coming from, the petty BS goes out the window real quick. If any of this widespread persecution noise actually comes to pass in the USA, it'll be because we *need* it to shake us out of our shallow stupor. |
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Jesusobsessed (OP) User ID: 53651305 Australia 02/01/2014 04:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I followed the discussion on the other thread a bit, and agree with you on this. The misunderstanding was in the term "work", however - those guys were right, in that our works don't save us, but you're right in that we must be moving towards the holiness of Jesus (Christlikeness). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52621665 The issue is about dying to self. The "old man" must be rendered dead and buried; otherwise he remains enthroned within and Jesus really has no place to sit. >Romans 6: Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? For he who has died has been freed from sin. >2 Corinthians 4: We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed— always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus’ sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. >Colossians 3: Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Those bulls and goats of the old testament rites represent *us*, obstinate and stubborn. . .the "flesh", or defective human nature must be burned away. God does this via "fiery trials", which equal sharing in Christ's sufferings (1 Peter 4). This is a vital matter which lukewarm Laodicean Christianity is not even familiar with. This is what's wrong with us. We may talk a good game, but talk is cheap. Most of us can't even handle being called names or challenged by others on GLP - how the @#$% would we handle real, actual persecution? Christians in other countries pray for us, because we're soft and pampered. We largely have not faced the kinds of ordeals that "trim away the fat", so to speak. When your life is in danger or you don't know where our next meal is coming from, the petty BS goes out the window real quick. If any of this widespread persecution noise actually comes to pass in the USA, it'll be because we *need* it to shake us out of our shallow stupor. Great words my friend, thank you for summing up :) |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 40576543 United States 02/01/2014 04:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By loving your brother, and forgiving him. you will be forgiven and thus you are sinless. even if u are to sin here and there..., your not perfect but having true love never hurts anyone or yourself so the trick is to enjoy life responsibly. But most of all, love thy self and love everyone. I find it if you are judging yourself then u are on the right track. |
Lester User ID: 53713445 United States 02/01/2014 04:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well shucks I guess we're all going to hell then... I'll be sure to work hard for my free gift of eternal life Quoting: Rawrss Seriously though I know I said I was going to bed but answer truthful are you a 7th day Adventist? I fellowship with Jesus, I don't belong to a church. A church can't save me, only Jesus' Holy Spirit and sacrifice may save me. You will go to Hell if you keep sinning. Did you think other wise ? How long have you been sinless/perfect? Christ Jesus' Sacrifice does not "save" you. HE IS also not The Holy Spirit. So, were you Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again, you would KNOW and have witness to share why Born-Agains no longer continue to sin... No witness as to the How or Why, or even the What. Points to absence of Knowing. Have some of it though... Can you Trust God Fully with every aspect of your life? Do you KNOW WHO Christ Jesus IS? Then, The Father Has Called your heart, but you have not yet answered by making your surrender... The Father cannot Abide With sinners, though; this is True! But only through surrender do we become OverComers and Partakers in Christ Jesus' Victory; ENABLED to Know and DO The Father's Will and Keep HIS Statutes... Got to have A New Heart Of HIS Flesh! Only YahWeh can Give It To You. Jesus IS The Way Unto The Father. He Gave HIS Life To Enable you to Come Into Father's Presence with the stain of sin removed so that Father-God Can Look Upon you and Accept your offering of your life... Until you've been In HIS Presence, you KNOW nothing; and Jesus and The Father don't Know you! Jesus Only KNOWS those "Who Do The Will Of My Father Which Art In Heaven". Matt 7:21 You either Abide In-HIM and With HIM, In Father and Son as HE Witnesses in John 17 or you are apart and on your own. Being on your own is nowhere. I was Given Witness that "Anyone who ever Loved Christ Jesus with a True Heart, even if only as a little child, will not be lost or condemned." That is not small consolation, but neither is it Living In HIS Accord and being Preserved against all evil... Not much longer now. The Age of Faith will be closed and The Way Unto The Father through Faith concluded. Your choice, your decision, your election... Trust God and give HIM your all, or stay apart from HIM. Maranatha!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 52621665 United States 02/01/2014 04:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By loving your brother, and forgiving him. you will be forgiven and thus you are sinless. even if u are to sin here and there..., your not perfect but having true love never hurts anyone or yourself so the trick is to enjoy life responsibly. But most of all, love thy self and love everyone. I find it if you are judging yourself then u are on the right track. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 40576543 Good stuff. The bit about our judgment of others being used to judge us is pretty important. Lots of us have been unknowingly braiding quite a noose for ourselves. |
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Rawrss User ID: 28866057 United States 02/01/2014 04:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well shucks I guess we're all going to hell then... I'll be sure to work hard for my free gift of eternal life Quoting: Rawrss Seriously though I know I said I was going to bed but answer truthful are you a 7th day Adventist? I fellowship with Jesus, I don't belong to a church. A church can't save me, only Jesus' Holy Spirit and sacrifice may save me. You will go to Hell if you keep sinning. Did you think other wise ? How long have you been sinless/perfect? Perhaps a week or two. Now I seek the Holy Spirit and wait for Jesus to take me all the way to perfection. Oh so according to your false interpretation of the Gospel you've been saved 2 weeks ago and before that you were heading to hell because you had sin. According to you Jesus will leave you and you will be heading to hell again when you sin again I mean if.. I mean when. Once you are saved you are always saved, stop preaching false doctrines man. I guarantee you will sin again. You can pm me a year or two from now and tell me you haven't sinned since January 2014? I highly doubt that. Luke 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake. |
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Jesusobsessed (OP) User ID: 53651305 Australia 02/01/2014 04:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Age of Faith will be closed and The Way Unto The Father through Faith concluded. Quoting: Lester 53713445 Yeah, prolly not, Les Once the Gentiles are fulfilled, It is time for the Jewish to receive Jesus. I doubt there will be many Gentiles coming to Jesus whilst the Jewish are undergoing the last punishment. Basically, we best repent before the tribulation otherwise we probably won't have the best chance to repent through the tribulation. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52621665 United States 02/01/2014 04:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Age of Faith will be closed and The Way Unto The Father through Faith concluded. Quoting: Lester 53713445 Yeah, prolly not, Les Once the Gentiles are fulfilled, It is time for the Jewish to receive Jesus. I doubt there will be many Gentiles coming to Jesus whilst the Jewish are undergoing the last punishment. Basically, we best repent before the tribulation otherwise we probably won't have the best chance to repent through the tribulation. Repentance is the entire *goal* of trials and tribulations. . . Isaiah 26 tells us that when God's judgments are in the earth, its inhabitants will learn righteousness. Jonah 2 says "I cried out to the LORD because of my affliction, And He answered me." |
Lester User ID: 53713445 United States 02/01/2014 04:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I followed the discussion on the other thread a bit, and agree with you on this. The misunderstanding was in the term "work", however - those guys were right, in that our works don't save us, but you're right in that we must be moving towards the holiness of Jesus (Christlikeness). Quoting: Anonymous Coward 52621665 The issue is about dying to self. The "old man" must be rendered dead and buried; otherwise he remains enthroned within and Jesus really has no place to sit. >Romans 6: Or do you not know that as many of us as were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into His death? For he who has died has been freed from sin. >2 Corinthians 4: We are hard-pressed on every side, yet not crushed; we are perplexed, but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed— always carrying about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our body. For we who live are always delivered to death for Jesus’ sake, that the life of Jesus also may be manifested in our mortal flesh. >Colossians 3: Therefore put to death your members which are on the earth: fornication, uncleanness, passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry. Those bulls and goats of the old testament rites represent *us*, obstinate and stubborn. . .the "flesh", or defective human nature must be burned away. God does this via "fiery trials", which equal sharing in Christ's sufferings (1 Peter 4). This is a vital matter which lukewarm Laodicean Christianity is not even familiar with. This is what's wrong with us. We may talk a good game, but talk is cheap. Most of us can't even handle being called names or challenged by others on GLP - how the @#$% would we handle real, actual persecution? Christians in other countries pray for us, because we're soft and pampered. We largely have not faced the kinds of ordeals that "trim away the fat", so to speak. When your life is in danger or you don't know where our next meal is coming from, the petty BS goes out the window real quick. If any of this widespread persecution noise actually comes to pass in the USA, it'll be because we *need* it to shake us out of our shallow stupor. Great words my friend, thank you for summing up :) Abide In and With The Father and the concerns you voice are mitigated Through HIM... Were you Ezekiel 36:26-27 Born-Again you would KMOW! The Laodicean has no heart For God. Unable to accept that the Way To Father's Victory lies in your election to make your surrender. All a matter of heart. No heart, can't Trust God Fully; there you are... apart from HIM.... Faith w/o works is dead... The "work" is taking action, making your Leap Of Faith... Trusting God Fully and giving HIM control of your life and accepting HIS Will in place of your own. That is how Father Delivers you from carnal-self and Gives you A New Heart Of HIS Flesh. The Father Gives You HIS Regeneration, your Born-Again Heart! Nothing you can do on your own can overcome carnality. No amount of suffering or emulating Jesus can make you Born-Again. Trust God, Give HIM your life and HE Gives you your New Heart... |
Jesusobsessed (OP) User ID: 53651305 Australia 02/01/2014 04:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Jesusobsessed I fellowship with Jesus, I don't belong to a church. A church can't save me, only Jesus' Holy Spirit and sacrifice may save me. You will go to Hell if you keep sinning. Did you think other wise ? How long have you been sinless/perfect? Perhaps a week or two. Now I seek the Holy Spirit and wait for Jesus to take me all the way to perfection. Oh so according to your false interpretation of the Gospel you've been saved 2 weeks ago and before that you were heading to hell because you had sin. According to you Jesus will leave you and you will be heading to hell again when you sin again I mean if.. I mean when. Once you are saved you are always saved, stop preaching false doctrines man. I guarantee you will sin again. You can pm me a year or two from now and tell me you haven't sinned since January 2014? I highly doubt that. Yes two weeks ago I was heading to Hell, Jesus WILL leave me if I start to sin again. He will reject me like he did before I repented. Just like he is rejecting you now. Did you wonder why you don't have a good relationship with Jesus, it's because you are justifying your own and other peoples sins. If I repent straight away and don't backslide I will be saved again. Everyone will fall because there is alway temptation, I'm not saying Its impossible to sin now, but I'm sure as Hell not saying I will sin ever again. You are directly contradicting my prayers, You're not speaking from the Love of God. You must repent and be sinless. Do you honestly think you can continue to sin and have a relationship with God ? Confess with your mouth if you dare - I believe by the grace of Jesus' sacrifice I may now sin freely and afterwards go to Heaven - I'm trying to get you to see the point, SERIOUSLY, Don't say that ! |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 52621665 United States 02/01/2014 04:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Q: Why exactly would He do that, considering His statement "without Me you can do nothing"? He's in this thing to solve the problem(s). He's counted the cost and isn't going to have to abandon the project. "He who began a good work in you", etc. |
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