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GOP takes full control of NC.....and unemployment rates fall off the table......UPDATED: NC Teacher minimum pay to be increased 14%

 
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The GOP is destroying NC.
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you sure about that?

2014 economic outlook for NC: Continued growth, says expert
[link to www.wral.com]

North Carolina’s economic growth some of the fastest in the South and the nation - See more at: [link to pulse.ncpolicywatch.org]

for the "people are leaving the state crowd":
Editorial: Population growth: North Carolina can manage growth if we work together
"News from the U.S. Census Bureau that North Carolina is likely to surpass Michigan this year to become the country’s ninth-largest state validates the state’s efforts to attract and create new jobs."
[link to www.journalnow.com]
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It's really a matter of perspective. To a liberal, it looks like the sky is falling - because people are actually working for what they earn, instead of collecting something for nothing. I would wager that this will continue, at least until some liberal does something else to screw it up.
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Denmark did a study on unemployment benefits that were granted for four years. Denmark learned that the longer the period of unemployment benefits the longer individuals stayed out of work.

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Getting citizens off unemployment is just one of the many things our current politicians can do to improve our economy. Other things that can be changed to jump start our economy is eliminating/reducing federal regulations, reducing government spending at the federal level, reducing taxes on businesses/individuals, reducing the national spending deficit, reducing the national debt, opening up public lands for fossil fuel extraction, and get rid of the “Patient Protect and Affordable Care Act.”

These are just a few examples that are having major impacts on our national economy.

It is time to put our citizens back to work rather than creating citizenry that becomes further dependent on the government as their means of support and for their existence as poorer member of the society within the United States of America.

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All the G.O.P. does is fudge the books, cover the numbers, make everything look good when it's not.
In other words they LIE.
Don't let them fool anyone, NC is a depressed State, and the G.O.P. will make it go downhill fast.
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ow, thats funny.. isnt that what Obummer is doing right now? I mean if they really wanted to tell the world what the REAL unemployment rate was in the US they should be adding the Under umployed and the people that have fallen off unemployment.. But why tell the world its really 20+%

So dont just say the GOP cooks the books.. Because they all do.. Maybe make they single brain ceil in your head do a little work
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"they single brain ceil"?

I don't know dude, maybe you ought to make they single brain ceil work.
laugh
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Again, cannot refute facts, so attack the source/messenger.
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You guys are funny, just continue to hide your heads in the sand like ostriches. popcorn
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Translation, it can't be a recovery because a democrat isn't taking credit for it!!!

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Why Denmark Is Shrinking Its Social Safety Net

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All the G.O.P. does is fudge the books, cover the numbers, make everything look good when it's not.
In other words they LIE.
Don't let them fool anyone, NC is a depressed State, and the G.O.P. will make it go downhill fast.
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So that's why they have economic growth? Why businesses are moving there? Why 20,000 people have found jobs in the last few months?


hmmm

The evidence and actual facts, prove your theory wrong.
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naughty
bsflag Facts? What facts? Facts by a writer in a media article? Sorry, I don't believe it for a minute.
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not a media writer

a doctor and professor of agriculture and economics
[link to www.wral.com]

you fail
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Don't gaslight me, bro, and don't pull a fast one on whoever else is reading this. naughty
I was talking about your 2 links in your OP, and you know it.

No, YOU fail. slaphim
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I live in NC and there's every indication to me that the Republicans are just as inept and corrupt as the Democrats.
We are all fucked.

I am pretty Active in writing about issues and here some of my feedback.

I have written (R)McCroy several times about legalization of Hemp and Dangers of Fracking ... crickets no response.

Burr is POSER of a conservative.
He did at least send back a form response even though it had nothing to with the issue I was writing about.
He sent me back a letter congratulating me for my military service when I had written to him about preserving gun rights.

As bad as it bothers me to admit it (D)Kay Hagans people have responded every time. Even though through form they have answered with the correct issue.

(R) Walter Jones is pretty active on FB and you can voice to him through there.

(R)Renee Elmers FB folks deleted a legitimate question I had about legalization of Hemp in NC.

though he did not win (L) Mike Beitler will respond on his FB

Unelected(L)Greg Brannon is pretty responsive too.

(R) Rayne Brown the lady that thought that her most important duty when she was elected was to Outlaw an annual topless rally in Asheville, one that was already approved by Asheville City Council. One of her flunkys and I had a nice email debate for a couple days. Wish I could still find them lol.

Both Parties are corrupt to the core and until we understand that and make provisions to elect people that REALLY represent the populace things will continue to deteriorate.
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it's over for NC liberals

conservatives have proven to run the state better
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All the G.O.P. does is fudge the books, cover the numbers, make everything look good when it's not.
In other words they LIE.
Don't let them fool anyone, NC is a depressed State, and the G.O.P. will make it go downhill fast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53986483


a depressed State you say?

[link to www.wral.com]

(that might be the best link provided yet)
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Ah, take a look at the chart designated Figure 13 in that link: Annual Change in Total Labor Compensation, U.S and N.C

The hidden story is any job growth is at the expense of wages. Yeah, the real GOP model, build it and they will come, IE: depress the wages of working people.
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Live in WNC. Forty years of Democratic rule produced a bankrupt state. Unlike the Federal government NC can't print money to pay it's bills. Now that steps are being taken to correct the situation the communists in the state are raising holy hell. Groups like the "Moral Authority" are marching on Raleigh "for justice". These groups want to make me puke.

I am a plant manager for a heavy manufacturing industry. We have had to do back flips to find people willing to work. You were DAMNED lucky to find anyone, much less anyone that was literate and could pass a drug test. That is starting to change. We have seen a definite uptick in people looking for a job. We pay on average twice the minimum wage for semi-skilled workers.

One of the worst problems this state has had is the heavy influx of people from the North who come down here to get away from the disaster they created up there only to try and create the same damn mess here!
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I live in NC, Salisbury NC. 35 mins north of Charlotte. I must say that this is a complete joke, jobs are on the rise in NC for one and the biggest thing is Kay Hagan is the democrat senate that's gonna lose her spot to a Republican. she's running behind every Republican at this time because of how obsessed she is with Obamacare and was a HUGE back supporter for Obama on it.

I have no idea where one would get that the GOP is at fault, unless you're a crazy ass liberal.
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me thinks NC should be a model for the rest of the nation

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I guess you did not know that unemployment statistics only count people receiving a unemployment check. Democrats as well as Republican politicians love to use that deceptive unemployment reporting statistic method to propagandize to their constituents that everything is fine on the economic front.

Simple as this: You receive a unemployment check you are counted as being unemployed. After the check stops you're not counted as being unemployed.

Get it?
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I think that one should just look at the states as to how they are ranked for a Business Tax Climate. This should be a good indication of how large the government is in each state and how much they like to rob from Peter to pay Paul.

[link to taxfoundation.org]
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You dumb ass. Once the long-term unemployed stopped getting unemployment, they were removed from being counted among the unemployed. Unemployment rates only count people receding unemployment insurance. The real statistic would be who actually has a job. The GOP counts on stupid people like you to look at graph and have no understanding of what it means. It's like closing the soup kitchen and then claiming the number of hungry people has declined.
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oh you mean like here in the peoples republic of illinois?our rate is unchanged at 8.9 but 700,000 people just vanished i guess,meanwhile wisconsin,iowa and indiana are building new facilities for former illinois companies keeping most employees just leaving the horrorendous taxes and corrupt politics behind.we have lost some to n carolina too.i know 10 or so people who have moved there recently
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it's over for NC liberals

conservatives have proven to run the state better
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All the G.O.P. does is fudge the books, cover the numbers, make everything look good when it's not.
In other words they LIE.
Don't let them fool anyone, NC is a depressed State, and the G.O.P. will make it go downhill fast.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53986483


a depressed State you say?

[link to www.wral.com]

(that might be the best link provided yet)
 Quoting: Oyster


Ah, take a look at the chart designated Figure 13 in that link: Annual Change in Total Labor Compensation, U.S and N.C

The hidden story is any job growth is at the expense of wages. Yeah, the real GOP model, build it and they will come, IE: depress the wages of working people.
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is it not still less of a burden on the state and taxpayers?
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me thinks NC should be a model for the rest of the nation

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

[link to www.journalnow.com]
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I guess you did not know that unemployment statistics only count people receiving a unemployment check. Democrats as well as Republican politicians love to use that deceptive unemployment reporting statistic method to propagandize to their constituents that everything is fine on the economic front.

Simple as this: You receive a unemployment check you are counted as being unemployed. After the check stops you're not counted as being unemployed.

Get it?

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i guess you didnt read past the OP
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You dumb ass. Once the long-term unemployed stopped getting unemployment, they were removed from being counted among the unemployed. Unemployment rates only count people receding unemployment insurance. The real statistic would be who actually has a job. The GOP counts on stupid people like you to look at graph and have no understanding of what it means. It's like closing the soup kitchen and then claiming the number of hungry people has declined.
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Do you live in NC?
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Born and raised, I got out and won't be going back.
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must have made you work for welfare
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You dumb ass. Once the long-term unemployed stopped getting unemployment, they were removed from being counted among the unemployed. Unemployment rates only count people receding unemployment insurance. The real statistic would be who actually has a job. The GOP counts on stupid people like you to look at graph and have no understanding of what it means. It's like closing the soup kitchen and then claiming the number of hungry people has declined.
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Do you live in NC?
 Quoting: *Evan


I do, and the economy here is shit. I love this state, have lived here my whole life, and I am thinking about moving up to New England where workers have some rights over their destiny.

This state government is the worst I have seen in 30 years.

My two pennies.
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Evan why are you such a puppet?

Do you actually think any "GOP" criminal cares about you and yours?

Do you actually think calling someone a "liberal" discounts what they say?

Wake up dude, both parties are a scam. They don't give a damn about people outside of their gated community mansions.
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>Do you actually think any "GOP" criminal cares about you and yours?

No, I don't. I don't think any Democrat criminal does either.

But who give a damn if they "care" for us? This isn't some romance paperback novel..

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Grow up.

It is not about "caring". It is about attracting business which will hire the residents. It is about making conditions liveable for the state's population in this beleaguered time. It is about being responsible to the voters.

That's what a public servant is to do.

Not care about me.
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Evan why are you such a puppet?

Do you actually think any "GOP" criminal cares about you and yours?

Do you actually think calling someone a "liberal" discounts what they say?

Wake up dude, both parties are a scam. They don't give a damn about people outside of their gated community mansions.
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I have heard those same talking points over and over and over and over....

I don't care which party puts the policies in place that actually help the state. I don't fully trust either...

but whichever side makes the environment business friendly, and lowers taxes, which creates jobs, lowers unemployment etc etc, I will applaud for that action
 Quoting: *Evan


When was the last time you went to an impoverished section of North Carolina? Or an area with a high amount of minorities? What are these parts of the state like?

Why is it the affluent areas always seem to be the ones improving with GOP control?
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wont take the bait.the answers are in your question.i am born and raised in chicago.i know this game so u know what to do to yourself
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You dumb ass. Once the long-term unemployed stopped getting unemployment, they were removed from being counted among the unemployed. Unemployment rates only count people receding unemployment insurance. The real statistic would be who actually has a job. The GOP counts on stupid people like you to look at graph and have no understanding of what it means. It's like closing the soup kitchen and then claiming the number of hungry people has declined.
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Do you live in NC?
 Quoting: *Evan


I do, and the economy here is shit. I love this state, have lived here my whole life, and I am thinking about moving up to New England where workers have some rights over their destiny.

This state government is the worst I have seen in 30 years.

My two pennies.
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yeah if you are an union kinda guy then NC isnt the place for you
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You dumb ass. Once the long-term unemployed stopped getting unemployment, they were removed from being counted among the unemployed. Unemployment rates only count people receding unemployment insurance. The real statistic would be who actually has a job. The GOP counts on stupid people like you to look at graph and have no understanding of what it means. It's like closing the soup kitchen and then claiming the number of hungry people has declined.
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Do you live in NC?
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Born and raised, I got out and won't be going back.
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must have made you work for welfare
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From the article linked:

"It doesn't tell us whether people are finding jobs or just totally dropping out of the workforce."


Or just leaving that low wage shithole of a state.
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Since I do live here, I can tell you that many (like myself) have left the workforce. You see many more stay at home moms now, more than 5 years ago. BTW, our taxes are climbing like mad!

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Evan why are you such a puppet?

Do you actually think any "GOP" criminal cares about you and yours?

Do you actually think calling someone a "liberal" discounts what they say?

Wake up dude, both parties are a scam. They don't give a damn about people outside of their gated community mansions.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 53986792


I have heard those same talking points over and over and over and over....

I don't care which party puts the policies in place that actually help the state. I don't fully trust either...

but whichever side makes the environment business friendly, and lowers taxes, which creates jobs, lowers unemployment etc etc, I will applaud for that action
 Quoting: *Evan


When was the last time you went to an impoverished section of North Carolina? Or an area with a high amount of minorities? What are these parts of the state like?

Why is it the affluent areas always seem to be the ones improving with GOP control?
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Why does East Durham look the same no matter who is in control?
Formerly faint
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From the article linked:

"It doesn't tell us whether people are finding jobs or just totally dropping out of the workforce."


Or just leaving that low wage shithole of a state.
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Since I do live here, I can tell you that many (like myself) have left the workforce. You see many more stay at home moms now, more than 5 years ago. BTW, our taxes are climbing like mad!
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Live here also. People outside don't get it.
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Denmark did a study on unemployment benefits that were granted for four years. Denmark learned that the longer the period of unemployment benefits the longer individuals stayed out of work.

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Makes perfect sense, but wait I thought Nancy Pelosi "The San Francisco freak" said unemployment benefits create jobs.
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It's like we say (jokingly) in nursing: "all bleeding eventually stops".

That doesn't mean the patients not dead.

Perfect illustration of the unemployment numbers in the US.





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