I truly despise what society is.

Conform or die alone. That is society in a cupcake (filled with crème)

I'm with you. Where are we going?

No matter how unconventional one is by nature - or wants to become - there are certain COMMON SENSE standards that apply.

Excessive hair on female legs and under the arms is not particularly hygienic, much less aesthetically appealing, not just to the opposite sex, but to one's own self.

Being an individual and nonconformist and going against the stystem does not mean that you reject ALL social norms, but rather, it's about common sense, rational thinking, and doing what you know, intellectually, is the best thing.

I happen to not like body hair (on myself) it has nothing to do with what society tells me.

It's hurts. Every part of your being just cringes at the idea of faking an entire persona. The fake smiles, the fake conversation, the fake laughs to avoid exchanging energy with the unaware. It all just hurts and I feel your pain.

What is the correlation between common sense and body hair? If hair grows, then why remove it? Just BECAUSE it's what's "normal" doesn't mean it should be done. It just is what it is.

Explain how "excessive" (please define that also) hair on female legs and under arms is not particularly hygienic. I fail to see the connection.

Aesthetics- I obviously understand when talking about the opposite sex, but to one's own self- I have to say, this is something in particular OP is talking about. WHY does it have to affect your own perception of yourself? Why can't we just be happy with our natural self instead of having to change appearance?

You're saying women should shave so that they look good to themselves. I say that's pretty poor rationale.

I'll admit too that I trim my facial hair and like to keep my hair a certain way. I had it cut to Air Force regulations for the last decade, so I'm used to that and always liked it short anyways, just because it was easy to cut it that way by myself. I hate hair touching my ears, it's a personal thing, but I really do understand where OP is coming from with this thread.

I'm with her on this one.

I knew I'd get a reply like this. Sadly you're wrong. Hair has many purposes and is meant to be in place. It shouldn't be considered unappealing or unhygienic because it is neither.

I'm glad I'm not alone. We don't have to live this way though! There are many people who are perfectly happy living apart from society. As soon as I have the money and skills to live in one with nature I plan to do so.

we are in constant battle with our ancestoral DNA heritage vs our future destination...
i don't see why anyone should shave. we developed hair because our ancestors had to hide in caves and for us not to freeze etc.since we don't live in caves anymore and make our clothes it is all a heritage.
.Girls are also kinda sexy to men when they have a lot of hair on their hands ( to some men)
Its all here for reason.
But as we are getting further away from nature, the magazines, popular culture, fashion and other things that man made up are forcing a new image upon the world that most will open handedly accept and thus the tools that we created are also making a different man of the future. Biologically different.
So i think there is nothing to be ashamed of.
Girls are attractive nomatter if they have hair on their body or not. IT is just ancestoral heritage and something we shouldn't be ashamed of. Its all good, most stuff that we believe in and adore are only a fashion of the moment. Some people 200 years from now will look at us and say: geez. how could they wear that awful things

You know what's worse than the hair-trimming socialization?

The gender socialization, especially of females. It's disgusting. I live in Newport and I literally want to puke when interacting with these women.

It's the most superficial nonsense i've ever encountered. It's all about materials and status. Almost every single aspect of their life and day. I can't stand the thought.

I would love to live away from society. There's just no way of coming around to it anymore.

Where you gunna go? How you gunna eat? It made sense back in the day because there were many people on the same page. Now...it's rough and you can't do it alone.

Next you will be telling us that you find wearing clothes un natural.

I found it extremely odd that people cut their hair, it is there for a purpose just like your hands. It serves as an extension of your nervous system and acts as a transmitter. I will not say what for, discover it for yourself!
a few hundred years ago having your hair cut was a sign of slavery or loss of identity/dignity. now people are completely unaware of the benefits it can produce.

"I honestly think I will be leaving society very shortly. I need to live in harmony with the earth."

I can assure you, with this attitude, you will be. And you will have a place on the new earth which is soon to come to the unsuspecting.

double post..

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I hate our society too, but I think hair under pits is disgusting and makes me want to puke. But if you think it'll attract a mate, go for it.

Hair on legs I wouldn't care, it's not a stinky place. Now if you had hair on the back of your knees that would be another story.

5 out of 10 Bigfoots agree!

yep, well hair on a woman probably doesn't even look that bad. When you don't shave the hair stays thin and probably mild colored.

why have we been taught that shaving is good... because they have products for us to buy. Hair bad=razor good - razor burn bad=shaving cream good- ingrown hairs bad=antibiotics good

I am a male. I dislike wearing clothing around my genital area as it is restrictive. Since my cawk is unusually large and robust, this is a bigger problem for me than for most males.

In nature, there are no clothes. Why can't I walk around with my enormous dick hanging out free as the breeze? I truly dispise the unnatural way society constrains my mighty member.

One of the many reasons I hate society. We put value in so many meaningless things. Will all these material objects really matter in the end? Of course not, our experiences in life will be what matters. There's so much this world has to offer yet we destroy it and shut it out with all this meaningless stuff.

I'd like to go somewhere tropical. I would grow and raise my own food. I'll have to do a lot of training and practicing first of course.

I know there are many people who share the same views and would love to leave society. I don't think it'd be too hard to form a small commune.

My thoughts exactly. It is very beneficial and serves many purposes.

Thank you. Things are becoming very clear to me now and your words are very reassuring.

THEN, OP . . . don't ask your frigging questions!

Evolution is ridding the human body of hair, except where it is aesthetically or functionally necessary.

OP is just looking for people to tell her it's ok to avoid hygienic practices, let it all hang out and grow wild . . . probably agrees with that new "trend" of free bleeding, which is just about the grossest thing EVER.

So they can live a lie and be easily controlled.

Its all about control.

You are no good if you cant be controlled.

The Ice Age is upon so you won't have to worry about "to shave or not to shave." It won't matter anymore. Who know we may all start growing excessive hair just to keep warm.

body hair is a disgusting revilement it is part of gods curse to make us bestial all people male and female alike should remove all body from the roots or be interned in a pig slop animal camp. hairy people are demonic

And you'll be shaving your eyebrows when?

choked on my drink man,funny shit.