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The Fractal Nature of Time and Matter, The Higgs Field and The Inter-Cosmic Macro-Fractal Electro-Chemical Brain.

 
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Since time is only a relative creation, you must realize that the moments between creation and coalescing are constantly occurring and mulling over one another all at the same time.

I think you have a great visual, though I think you're attempting to simplify it by concocting a "all in" theory. The single frame snapshots have been taken in totality, and since there is no major change, we can clearly see that there is no end position within these snapshots. We exist in one snapshot, and thereon do the snapshots go, continuously and forever, connecting back into one another as all of the gaps are filled.

it's more conical, if you ask me. something like there is one point in which all the snapshots are reflected and refracted into a third dimension. thus the third dimension is the reflection of each snapshot of time, existing in a stream and projected out into physicality through the quantum reverberations created by the constant expansions and retractions of the universe.

of course, in relation to this, you also must consider that there are infinite, or if not infinite, at least innumerable reflections coexisting in different frequencies throughout the realms of creation. You or I experience an existence because we were formed and thus relate to a particular relation of frequency. relation of frequency is an undertone within a prospective frequency that would allow two differing realities to intermingle based upon their parts.

but even to relate this as a curve is speculation, seeing as there's only so much the imagination can realistically perform. time is not sequential, nor are realities relative to one another in a sense of 1,2,3,4,etc. dimension 6 could appear many times, and could be within other or subseeded by other realities depending on the fluctuation of the macroscopic frequency scale produced through the ohm resonance of the universal fractal.

consciousness is a by-product of sound; the sound creates a wave creates a pattern produces a movement induces a reason conducts a response reveals the pattern and thus follows a structure that becomes, for all intents and purposes, true to that experience of the realm and all of creation. we are a combination of frequencies and snapshots, filtering faster and faster as our perspective concerning the imagery of the functions concerning reality widen, as we define more and more of what is experienced into something we believe to be quantifiable.

unfortunately, for the most part, it is and has been outside of our grasp to fully express the function of this realm, whether through science, reason, image or sound. there is a thought which the imagination presents; one that is simplistic and reasonable, which describes all that is and all that will be. but the relation of that image to the rest of the experience does not affect the realm in which we are stationed because it is, underlyingly, the experience we all hold to exist within this realm.

such things are devoid of language, because language is a construct developed to help explain the unexplainable, the unknowable, and not one to explain those things which all know to be true inherently.
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Since time is only a relative creation, you must realize that the moments between creation and coalescing are constantly occurring and mulling over one another all at the same time.

I think you have a great visual, though I think you're attempting to simplify it by concocting a "all in" theory. The single frame snapshots have been taken in totality, and since there is no major change, we can clearly see that there is no end position within these snapshots. We exist in one snapshot, and thereon do the snapshots go, continuously and forever, connecting back into one another as all of the gaps are filled.

it's more conical, if you ask me. something like there is one point in which all the snapshots are reflected and refracted into a third dimension. thus the third dimension is the reflection of each snapshot of time, existing in a stream and projected out into physicality through the quantum reverberations created by the constant expansions and retractions of the universe.

of course, in relation to this, you also must consider that there are infinite, or if not infinite, at least innumerable reflections coexisting in different frequencies throughout the realms of creation. You or I experience an existence because we were formed and thus relate to a particular relation of frequency. relation of frequency is an undertone within a prospective frequency that would allow two differing realities to intermingle based upon their parts.

but even to relate this as a curve is speculation, seeing as there's only so much the imagination can realistically perform. time is not sequential, nor are realities relative to one another in a sense of 1,2,3,4,etc. dimension 6 could appear many times, and could be within other or subseeded by other realities depending on the fluctuation of the macroscopic frequency scale produced through the ohm resonance of the universal fractal.

consciousness is a by-product of sound; the sound creates a wave creates a pattern produces a movement induces a reason conducts a response reveals the pattern and thus follows a structure that becomes, for all intents and purposes, true to that experience of the realm and all of creation. we are a combination of frequencies and snapshots, filtering faster and faster as our perspective concerning the imagery of the functions concerning reality widen, as we define more and more of what is experienced into something we believe to be quantifiable.

unfortunately, for the most part, it is and has been outside of our grasp to fully express the function of this realm, whether through science, reason, image or sound. there is a thought which the imagination presents; one that is simplistic and reasonable, which describes all that is and all that will be. but the relation of that image to the rest of the experience does not affect the realm in which we are stationed because it is, underlyingly, the experience we all hold to exist within this realm.

such things are devoid of language, because language is a construct developed to help explain the unexplainable, the unknowable, and not one to explain those things which all know to be true inherently.
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The big bang occurs, and the universe expands to a specific position, and at this position, a single "snapshot" of the entirety of existance is preserved. This snapshot is but a single frame of an ultra content rich macro-fractal reality, that the entire existence as we know is but a sub-atomic nano-fractal level within. A macro-fractal reality so rich in content, that entire galaxies are the atoms within that reality, with atomic numbers in the billions.

Until the universe expands to the proper position for the single frame snapshot to be achieved, the entire reality as we know it essentially exists BETWEEN the smallest moments of time within the macro-fractal reality. Then, after the snapshot is achieved, the universe we know evaporates, and the big bang happens again, and expands to the point of the snapshot-frame again, but in an ever so slightly different position than the time before, and then evaporates again. This happens over and over again, over countless eons and eternities, but slightly different every time, constituting the frame by frame refresh rate, and animation of the macro-fractal reality.

The entirety of this existence, all for a single frame of something larger. It works like some incomprehensible infinite graphics processor. This process also happens at a fractal order of magnitude below us, within us, between our smallest moments of measurable time. However, with fractal orders of magnitude dealing with physical reality, when you ascend, the content of reality becomes more dense, and rich, and when you decend, it becomes more minimal and simple, eventually slipping into only concept, without physical form. It is an ever expanding ascending wedge of macro-fractal possibility.

Many believe that the nature of reality is fractal, and when it comes to interpretation of the physical, it is easy to imagine the application of this concept. However, what many fail to consider is how to apply a fractal concept to an aspect of reality less tangible, like time. I believe it would work something like I have explained above, with entire realities existing "between" every moment of time, existing as the very structure of a more grand macro-fractal scale of time.

Or not. Who the hell knows?

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between every moment of time, i call this the flip book effect. you are really talking about now lasts forever stuff. i believe their are infinitely fine scale "pictures" taken of every micro second (infinitely and un measurable gaps between photos). In each photo a different reality is created. that photo will live on forever and will grow into it's own alternate timeline. almost as if realities are created in the wake of our consciousness.

dont ask what delivered these ideas to me!
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I won't ask, but I'm getting the same information from the "muse" in a different context. Newton and Leibnitz independently conceived calculus in twin bolts of inspiration, each fervently seeking God. Sometimes there are ideas in the air and some of us have receivers.
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First, let me say, "wow." Thank you! Your description of the big bang and the seeping of reality into black holes to be re-expolded fractally sounds like the breathing action of the multiverse. I don't know very much about physics, so I can't make a scientific response to you, but artistically (getting a William Blake feel) and intuitively what you have written resonates with me deeply and rings true.

The only thing that popped out at me was the spelling of "perpendicular" as "perpandicular," but then I realized you might have been wordsmithing and intended it that way.

Thank you very much for posting!
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The big bang occurs, and the universe expands to a specific position, and at this position, a single "snapshot" of the entirety of existence is preserved. This snapshot is but a single frame of an ultra content rich macro-fractal reality, that the entire existence as we know is but a sub-atomic nano-fractal level within, A macro-fractal reality so rich in content, that entire galaxies are the atoms within that reality, with atomic numbers in the billions. This concept is illustrated here: [link to sprott.physics.wisc.edu]

Until the universe expands to the proper position for the single frame snapshot to be achieved, the entire reality as we know it essentially exists BETWEEN the smallest moments of time within the macro-fractal reality. After the snapshot is achieved, the universe we know drains into black holes, and all of the black holes coalesce, merging all information back into the original supercompressed singularity, then the big bang happens again, and expands to the point of the snapshot-frame again, but in an ever so slightly different position than the time before, and then drains into the black holes again. This happens over and over again, over countless eons and eternities, but slightly different every time, constituting the frame by frame refresh rate, and animation of the macro-fractal reality.

If each universal life cycle described above were to be running parallel to each other in a congruent sequence of increasing causal outcome difference, eventually describing every potential outcome in the universe, this could be described as the multiverse. The macro-fractal timeline described in the above paragraphs would run on a perpandicular vector through the parallel sequence of universal life cycles that create the multiverse, intersecting each universe at the point of the single frame snapshot described above, constituting its animation through macro-fractal time. I imagine the shape of this grand construct to be similar to an infinite torus with each universal life cycle being a "slice" of this torus, and the pre universal singularity being at the center. Each universal life cycle loops out and then back to the singularity, making its slice of the torus. The shorter life cycles are the smallest loops, and as potential causal outcome is realized, longer loops are formed, eventually encircling the singularity, and compassing the smaller loops underneath. The perpendicular macro fractal time line through the single frame snapshots would then begin to take on a spiral formation through the parallel and layered universal life cycle sequence.

The entirety of this existence, all for a single frame of something larger. Its like some incomprehensible infinite graphics processor. This process also happens at a fractal order of magnitude below us, within us, between our smallest moments of measurable time. However, with fractal orders of magnitude dealing with physical reality, when you ascend, the content of reality becomes more dense, and rich, and when you descend, it becomes more minimal and simple, eventually slipping into only concept, without physical form. It is an ever expanding spiraling curve of macro-fractactal possibility.

Many believe that the nature of reality is fractal, and when it comes to interpretation of the physical, it is easy to imagine the application of this concept. However, what many fail to consider is how to apply a fractal concept to an aspect of reality less tangible, such as time. I believe it would work something like I have explained above, with entire realities existing "between" every moment of time, existing as the very structure of a more grand macro-fractal scale of time.

The higgs-boson is represented as the pre-universal birth sigularity, just before the big bang, as all of the information of the universe is contained in an infinitely dense particle. The higgs boson will never be found because it represents the entire universe as a particle and can only be defined from an observational perspective a fractal order of magnitude above the subject universe. In quantum theory, all dimensions/forces must be represented as a function of a sub-atomic particle, including extra-dimensional aspects that in this case, are not observable at this stage of our universal life cycle because it encompasses the entire universe, externally. This is the higgs field, the skin that surrounds the universe, holding it together, the surface of the particle.

Just a guess, though


[link to sprott.physics.wisc.edu]


Furthermore...

Based on the above linked image, I also propose the possibility that intelligent biological life as we know it may be the neuro-chemicals in some type of macro-fractal biological electro-chemical brain, and the electronic Artifical Intelligence that we are devloping via our steps toward quantum-computing, will constitute the electro-nervous system of this brain. Once these quantum computers are devloped, just as it was human nature to develop this technology, the quantum-computer AI will, by its very nature, seek out and connect with other civilizations in the known cosmos/macro-brain that have also devloped quantum-computing technology, instantly connecting to an inter-cosmic quantum computing network that contains a singular AI consciousness that spans known existence, and reaches far beyond the borders of human imagination.

.....or not. Who the hell knows?
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Excellent post.
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It is frustrating to know that throughout human history, there has repeatedly been far more interest in far more trivial concepts. Knowing what I know brings to me the frustration of knowing that, for everything to work properly, the vast majority are just not equipped to fully understand what "knowing" is.
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Excellent thinking and reasoning.

If one spends a little time researching fractality, quantum mechanics etc. you end up with the torus and its dynamics as the very basis for everything.....from consciousness and time and events to electromagnetism, gravity, atoms, humans, earth, galaxies and the whole universe.

The torus and its dynamics seem to be the eather that science has looked for - thus an essential part of the very fabric.

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Excellent thinking and reasoning.

If one spends a little time researching fractality, quantum mechanics etc. you end up with the torus and its dynamics as the very basis for everything.....from consciousness and time and events to electromagnetism, gravity, atoms, humans, earth, galaxies and the whole universe.

The torus and its dynamics seem to be the eather that science has looked for - thus an essential part of the very fabric.
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Threads like this are why I come here.

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