Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56674568 Germany 05/02/2014 06:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up and starting the day with new set of shakes... all kinds of flavors [link to quakes.globalincidentmap.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56674568 Germany 05/02/2014 06:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up INCREASING CHANCE OF FLARES: NOAA forecasters have boosted the odds of an M-class flare today to 35%. There are two possible blast sites: Earth-facing sunspots AR2047 and AR2049 both have 'beta-gamma' magnetic fields that harbor energy for strong eruptions source: [link to spaceweather.com] i have a feeling it is going to be more than 35% |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 13849872 United Kingdom 05/02/2014 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up Watch this timelapse from yesterday at Electric Peak. Quoting: AllThatCanBe Switch it to fullscreen, 480p and don't skip till you've seen what happens to the entire landscape after 1 min 20 secs into the video. My own eyes don't know how to comprehend what is happening... Ideas? i remember when e19 was erupting in Iceland, the cams were making that same wobbly motion, much more pronounced obviously, but I think it's an electromagnetic effect from the nearness of the magma to the cam |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57619471 United Kingdom 05/02/2014 12:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up ok, on the Lake Butte sismo, is that a glitch in the equipment, or something else going on? Quoting: konya61 48884561 Right, the thing is set for 1,600.00 uV (Micro-volts) per vertical division on the graph. Normally seiso's are set at 125 uV or 200 uV per division, so someone has cranked it right up in an attempt to reduce the sensitivity. Now either the electronic, programmable, attenuator has failed , and the thing is at 1 or less uv per division, which is the most likely scenario, or the ground is continuesly "shaking" by inches or possibly feet - rather unlikely. I suspect we'll see it disconnected soon, and either replaced or repaired, or they may be able to fit an in-line attenuator of some sort in the cable without having to try and dredge the thing up from a few hundred feet down the hole. Either way, they will have to get it back into a condition where it's more usable than it currently is. I personally am ignoring it, because one wouldn't be able to determine if larger or abnormal shaking happend, since it's just "maxing out" on background noise right now. I think it's quite safe to say "it's busted". |
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AllThatCanBe User ID: 57601345 South Africa 05/02/2014 01:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up Watch this timelapse from yesterday at Electric Peak. Quoting: AllThatCanBe Switch it to fullscreen, 480p and don't skip till you've seen what happens to the entire landscape after 1 min 20 secs into the video. My own eyes don't know how to comprehend what is happening... Ideas? i remember when e19 was erupting in Iceland, the cams were making that same wobbly motion, much more pronounced obviously, but I think it's an electromagnetic effect from the nearness of the magma to the cam That makes too much sense. |
dyin User ID: 57318272 United States 05/02/2014 02:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up [link to www.isthisthingon.org] So is all the equipment having glitches? Truth never damages a cause that is just |
Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 57620236 New Zealand 05/02/2014 08:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up Check out the charts from 4/28 Quoting: dyin [link to www.isthisthingon.org] So is all the equipment having glitches? and look at the time stamps compared to data regarding pressure events at the lake.... they match up il post in a tick |
Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 57620236 New Zealand 05/02/2014 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up hmmm weird but they have moded some stations to pick up less....seems dumb to me. if your decideing a station is broken as its throwing out signals that suggest ground and pressure events, then shouldnt you decide to fix that station? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 57642871 New Zealand 05/03/2014 01:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up you look at the figures in question here its crazy...... Quoting: Shadow Beam [link to en.m.wikipedia.org] Kilauea (averge activity dureing eruptive phase) average stable level +320 micro tadians 320 average ascension micro radians 290 average decline mico radians [link to pbo.unavco.org] yellowstone (now) average 0 (ground level) current decline -181,300 micro radians current ascension +1,300 micro radians this gives sure fire evidence a HEAVY GROUND DEFORMATION EVENT STARTED 01/05/2014 on the lake bed..... the stable elevation was 0 mico radians. it droped rapidly, and now its climbing! its currently +1,300 showing extream bulgeing activity. a magma plume is accelerating towards the surface....and its causeing issues. id say this is what has put the lake on tilt (south west) and events at noriss junction, lake butte and lake yellowstone itself, is this deormation being recorded. new info on the latest deformation episode..... after activity the lake borehole seismograph was shut down and displays a 'technical issue' message. huge pressures are being felt [link to pbo.unavco.org] [link to pbo.unavco.org] notice how the spectrogram of channel 1 on this next graph maxs out above 0.4 hrz? well 1 hrz is a strong indication an eruption is moments away..... [link to pbo.unavco.org] following these episodes....a station went down hmmmmmmmmmmmmm [link to quake.utah.edu] |
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Shadow Beam (OP) User ID: 57642871 New Zealand 05/03/2014 05:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up this is a typical echo type signal from a quake elsewhere [link to www.isthisthingon.org] [link to www.isthisthingon.org] [link to www.isthisthingon.org] but here at Madison it registers as if madison is the epicenter [link to www.isthisthingon.org] and here at north west thumb.....nada just that weird strike pattern [link to www.isthisthingon.org] |
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kundalinichi User ID: 55137666 United States 05/03/2014 05:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up No, no, I posted that right after just looking at your link, it looked like a pretty strong and short event. No reports yet, I have been watching all night ^ um after going to the main thumbnail page I immediately saw that that event registered on EVERY seismo there. That was a quake, right? First time I saw a event get registered on every single one. :o Last Edited by kundalinichi on 05/03/2014 05:51 AM |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 24889765 United Kingdom 05/03/2014 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up Saturday May 3 2014, 08:34:07 UTC 82 minutes ago Southern Idaho MAGNITUDE 3.8 DEPTH 5.0 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57188978 wow thats a good rattle To get a realistic idea of how strong the shake was in different area's of the park, one needs to note the number of divisions on a particular seismo, then scroll right to the bottom and note the sensitivity reading for that seismo in micro-volts (uV). Multiply the "divisions" by the uV. Doing this for each seismo will then correctly tell you where stronger and weaker shakes were recorded. Just looking at the graph tells you nothing, because some seiso's can be set up to 10 times or more difference in sensitivity, so the shake can look real small on a seismo near the epicenter, but really large on a seismo much further away. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24889765 United Kingdom 05/03/2014 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up Saturday May 3 2014, 08:34:07 UTC 82 minutes ago Southern Idaho MAGNITUDE 3.8 DEPTH 5.0 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57188978 wow thats a good rattle Also, plotting the shake in uV will give a fairly good idea of the general direction the shake came from, and also whether it was inside Yellowstone or external. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24889765 United Kingdom 05/03/2014 09:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up Wouldn't it be nice if the calculations were done by the computer and all the graph's were displayed at the same scale? Oh, then we would have a much clearer picture of whats going on.......silly me......... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24889765 United Kingdom 05/03/2014 09:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up Wouldn't it be nice if the calculations were done by the computer and all the graph's were displayed at the same scale? Oh, then we would have a much clearer picture of whats going on.......silly me......... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24889765 I do realise of course that the sensitivities are set so the geoligists can see the smaller detail of the wave-forms, but there could be two sets of graphs....... |
dyin User ID: 57318272 United States 05/03/2014 10:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up Collection of Yellowstone Cameras in one site [link to www.yellowstone.co] Truth never damages a cause that is just |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24889765 United Kingdom 05/03/2014 10:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Yellowstone Caldera - Hydro-Thermal Super Volcanic Eruption 2014 -update 10/07/14 - Eruption Drills, Magmatic Evolution & USGS Data Cover Up As an example..... This shake today, May 3rd, which shows in blue over most of the park. [link to www.isthisthingon.org] looks real small at Norris Museum..... [link to www.isthisthingon.org] but Norris Museum is set to 1,333.33 uV. The shake shows just over 1 division in amplitude, so this would be around 1,500.00 uV. Being such high settings it's difficult to be precise. Now Norris Junction, on the other hand, is set for 200.00 uV and looks quite big at 5 div. [link to www.isthisthingon.org] so comes out at 1000 uV. Considering that all the seismo's are limited at 5 divisions, the shake could have been slightly stronger than we see, but for the most part it's within the limits, so I tend towards close to a 1000 uV shake. Now Maddison River is set to 125 uV, and the shake was well into "clipping" at 5 divisions, so best we can see is 625 uV, but since it was so heavily clipped, the shake was way more than 625 - my guess? Around a 1000 uV. [link to www.isthisthingon.org] Can't be arsed to do them all, so will take one more, the Lake. Seismo is set to 500 uV, and it shows about 2 div. at peak,(very thin single line), so again about 1000 uV. [link to www.isthisthingon.org] This tells me that the shake was recorded at almost identical levels at all these locations. If the sensitivities were all set the same - at say 200 uV - then ALL the charts would show almost identical to Norris Junction. This is why just looking at the graphs straight off tells one nothing much, and also why the sensitivities are set differently. At Maddison River we have no idea of how big a shake it was, because it's into limiting for much of the time, but we CAN see more detail and better duration definition. Whereas at the Lake we can see the shake was not more than 1000 uV, but there is very little definition or duration information for us. Hope this helps us get a better picture when there are shakes like this..... |