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Are Americans Stupid? 1 in 4 doesn't know the earth revolves around the sun | |
| Hawkesbay Offer Upgrade  User ID: 42869654  United States02/14/2014 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30579593 United States02/14/2014 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This brings up an interesting point. Most people would look at the statistic cited in the OP, roll there eyes, and think " how stupid are those people (the 25%)" while secretly praising themselves as "smart' for "knowing" the truth. But how many people have actually taken the time to scientifically verify the seemingly obvious and simple truth, that the earth orbits the sun, not the other way around. How many people would have the knowledge and equipment to be able to do this? It's easy for most people to mock proponents of scientific theory, and yet very few truly understand the science behind global warming or evolution, for example. However, that doesn't stop most people from blindly accepting whatever theories science puts in front of them. |
| Hawkesbay (OP) User ID: 42869654 United States02/14/2014 02:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This brings up an interesting point. Most people would look at the statistic cited in the OP, roll there eyes, and think " how stupid are those people (the 25%)" while secretly praising themselves as "smart' for "knowing" the truth. But how many people have actually taken the time to scientifically verify the seemingly obvious and simple truth, that the earth orbits the sun, not the other way around. How many people would have the knowledge and equipment to be able to do this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30579593 It's easy for most people to mock proponents of scientific theory, and yet very few truly understand the science behind global warming or evolution, for example. However, that doesn't stop most people from blindly accepting whatever theories science puts in front of them. The poll does not indicate that 25% of Americans have examined the evidence and drawn a different conclusion than the overwhelming majority of astronomers and astrophysicists that have studied the question. The 25% don't know that it's the prevailing view of the solar system, and thus it is a question they have simply not pondered. This is interesting not because there are competing theories, but because it shows a remarkable lack of interest in how things work. No matter how preoccupied we may get with all of life's distractions, the fact the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening should at least raise some basic questions. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 30579593 United States02/14/2014 02:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This brings up an interesting point. Most people would look at the statistic cited in the OP, roll there eyes, and think " how stupid are those people (the 25%)" while secretly praising themselves as "smart' for "knowing" the truth. But how many people have actually taken the time to scientifically verify the seemingly obvious and simple truth, that the earth orbits the sun, not the other way around. How many people would have the knowledge and equipment to be able to do this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30579593 It's easy for most people to mock proponents of scientific theory, and yet very few truly understand the science behind global warming or evolution, for example. However, that doesn't stop most people from blindly accepting whatever theories science puts in front of them. The poll does not indicate that 25% of Americans have examined the evidence and drawn a different conclusion than the overwhelming majority of astronomers and astrophysicists that have studied the question. The 25% don't know that it's the prevailing view of the solar system, and thus it is a question they have simply not pondered. This is interesting not because there are competing theories, but because it shows a remarkable lack of interest in how things work. No matter how preoccupied we may get with all of life's distractions, the fact the sun rises in the morning and sets in the evening should at least raise some basic questions. I see........... my bad. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16453458 United States02/14/2014 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I could ask hundreds of people and not one of them would answer this way. But, lets fix the thread title and make it even more intriguing: Are Scientists Stupid? 9,999 in 10,000 don't know that neutrons repel each other, and that the Sun is a magnetic, iron-core, plasma diffusing pulsar remnant of a supernova Fifteen other papers linked in the following: Thread: Where does the big bang suggest the universe.... (Page 3) Sure, here are a few to check out. But first, the 5-page layman's paper. THE SUN IS A MAGNETIC PLASMA DIFFUSER THAT SORTS ATOMS AND ELEMENTS BY WEIGHT I. THE SUN IS A GIANT PLASMA "DIFFUSER" II. SOLAR MAGNETIC FIELDS ACCELERATE PROTONS (HYDROGEN IONS) UPWARD III. FRESH, RADIOACTIVE SUPERNOVA DEBRIS FORMED METEORITES, PLANETS, AND THE SUN IV. THE SUN IS A "CLOTHED NEUTRON STAR" [link to arxiv.org] Here's a kicker: "... 99% of the material in ordinary meteorites is made of these same elements...the likelihood of this spectacular agreement being a meaningless coincidence is less than one in 50,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000." Edit: That would be one in 50 nonillion. Douglas Adams would be proud. Names of large numbers: [link to en.wikipedia.org] The non-layman version of the above: The Sun is a plasma diffuser that sorts atoms by mass ABSTRACT: The Sun is a magnetic plasma diffuser that selectively moves light elements like H and He and the lighter isotopes of each element to its surface. The Sun formed on the collapsed core of a supernova. It consists mostly of iron, oxygen, nickel, silicon and sulfur made near the SN core, like the rocky planets and ordinary meteorites. H ions, generated by emission and decay of neutrons at the core, are accelerated upward by deep magnetic fields, thus acting as a carrier gas that maintains mass separation in the Sun. Neutron emission from the central neutron star triggers a series of reactions that generate solar luminosity, solar neutrinos, solar mass-fractionation, and an outpouring of the neutron decay product, H, in the solar wind. Mass fractionation appears to have operated in the parent star as well, and likely occurs in other stars. [link to arxiv.org] PDF: [link to arxiv.org] Thread: Corruption of Science: Destruction of the U.S. Constitution Who Cares If Neutrons Repel and Stars Make Hydrogen? Quoting: AkashicRecord Government by the people depends on public access to reliable information. The integrity of our government thus depends on the integrity of government science. For the past sixty-eight years the scientific community has lied to Congress about the energy (E) stored as mass (m) in cores of atoms, planets, stars and galaxies. Why? Fear and a deep sense of guilt and remorse for having released that energy to vaporize Hiroshima and Nagasaki and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians on August 6 and 9, 1945 .. ... ### FOR MORE INFORMATION ###: [link to omanuel.wordpress.com] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31496863  Canada02/14/2014 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This brings up an interesting point. Most people would look at the statistic cited in the OP, roll there eyes, and think " how stupid are those people (the 25%)" while secretly praising themselves as "smart' for "knowing" the truth. But how many people have actually taken the time to scientifically verify the seemingly obvious and simple truth, that the earth orbits the sun, not the other way around. How many people would have the knowledge and equipment to be able to do this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30579593 It's easy for most people to mock proponents of scientific theory, and yet very few truly understand the science behind global warming or evolution, for example. However, that doesn't stop most people from blindly accepting whatever theories science puts in front of them. in aall actuality there are 2 theories,one accepted the other not even mentioned and both cant be disproved,heliocentric and geocentric i leave it there look for yourself so who doesnt know what??thats the question ,depends who is telling you |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16453458 United States02/14/2014 03:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story's been bothering me today, then I realized maybe 1 in 4 Americans are actually Sherlock Holmes. Quoting: Dr. Astro It's elementary. So sayeth the Galileo mission results (once they were finally released!) Thread: Where does the big bang suggest the universe.... (Page 3) This one is special, because I can show you a C-Span video showing how this Galileo data was withheld from scientists (and the public), and was demanded to be released.. (Direct link to 1:40) [link to www.youtube.com] Scientific Genesis: 5. Global Warming Scam (2011) [link to www.youtube.com] The Structure of the Solar Core ABSTRACT: Data from the Galileo mission to Jupiter and the Apollo mission to the Moon show isotopically distinct types of xenon in Jupiter and in the Sun and evidence of a mass separation process that selectively moves lighter elements and the lighter isotopes of each element to the solar surface. Understanding the source of solar luminosity, solar neutrinos, and mono-isotopic H-1 pouring from the solar surface depends on measurements of anti-neutrinos coming from neutron decay in the Sun and on the development of a better theoretical basis for the empirical evidence of a.) Repulsive interactions between like nucleons; b.) Clustering of nucleons; and c.) Neutron penetration of the gravitational barrier surrounding a neutron star. [link to arxiv.org] PDF: [link to arxiv.org] |
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| Soma/Comatose User ID: 47247794 United States02/14/2014 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So you find this surprising? I don't. I deal with idiocy every day at work. It amazing to me how stupid people are nowadays. Go to any fast food restaurant and ask for a "couple" of cokes. The response will be "How many is a couple?". Geeeezzz!!!  ''Too many good docs are getting out of the business. Too many OB-GYNs aren't able to practice their love with women all across this country.'' —President George W. Bush, Sept. 6, 2004 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31496863 Canada02/14/2014 03:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story's been bothering me today, then I realized maybe 1 in 4 Americans are actually Sherlock Holmes. Quoting: Dr. Astro It's elementary. So sayeth the Galileo mission results (once they were finally released!) Thread: Where does the big bang suggest the universe.... (Page 3) This one is special, because I can show you a C-Span video showing how this Galileo data was withheld from scientists (and the public), and was demanded to be released.. (Direct link to 1:40) [link to www.youtube.com] Scientific Genesis: 5. Global Warming Scam (2011) [link to www.youtube.com] The Structure of the Solar Core ABSTRACT: Data from the Galileo mission to Jupiter and the Apollo mission to the Moon show isotopically distinct types of xenon in Jupiter and in the Sun and evidence of a mass separation process that selectively moves lighter elements and the lighter isotopes of each element to the solar surface. Understanding the source of solar luminosity, solar neutrinos, and mono-isotopic H-1 pouring from the solar surface depends on measurements of anti-neutrinos coming from neutron decay in the Sun and on the development of a better theoretical basis for the empirical evidence of a.) Repulsive interactions between like nucleons; b.) Clustering of nucleons; and c.) Neutron penetration of the gravitational barrier surrounding a neutron star. [link to arxiv.org] PDF: [link to arxiv.org] exactly all someones opinion and it dont mean shit,never stop looking for the truth,the so called genius' wont give it to us |
| Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States02/14/2014 03:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story's been bothering me today, then I realized maybe 1 in 4 Americans are actually Sherlock Holmes. Quoting: Dr. Astro Fuck off, shill. Everyone fucking hates you. 1835  User Votes and 824  Not that it matters, but you don't speak for everyone. You speak for less than a third. In fact, it's interesting how similar the percentage is to the percentage of americans who don't know that the earth revolves around the sun. Funny, that.  |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33435073 United States02/14/2014 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story's been bothering me today, then I realized maybe 1 in 4 Americans are actually Sherlock Holmes. Quoting: Dr. Astro Fuck off, shill. Everyone fucking hates you. 1835 :greenkarma: User Votes and 824 :redkarma: Not that it matters, but you don't speak for everyone. You speak for less than a third. In fact, it's interesting how similar the percentage is to the percentage of americans who don't know that the earth revolves around the sun. Funny, that. Also Astro...many don't know that there are other galaxies...sigh... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31496863 Canada02/14/2014 03:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This story's been bothering me today, then I realized maybe 1 in 4 Americans are actually Sherlock Holmes. Quoting: Dr. Astro Fuck off, shill. Everyone fucking hates you. 1835 :greenkarma: User Votes and 824 :redkarma: Not that it matters, but you don't speak for everyone. You speak for less than a third. In fact, it's interesting how similar the percentage is to the percentage of americans who don't know that the earth revolves around the sun. Funny, that. Also Astro...many don't know that there are other galaxies...sigh... you obviously dont know its just as plausible that the sun revolves around the earth,cant be proven what you say no matter how many times you repeat it |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24602817  Switzerland02/14/2014 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This brings up an interesting point. Most people would look at the statistic cited in the OP, roll there eyes, and think " how stupid are those people (the 25%)" while secretly praising themselves as "smart' for "knowing" the truth. But how many people have actually taken the time to scientifically verify the seemingly obvious and simple truth, that the earth orbits the sun, not the other way around. How many people would have the knowledge and equipment to be able to do this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30579593 It's easy for most people to mock proponents of scientific theory, and yet very few truly understand the science behind global warming or evolution, for example. However, that doesn't stop most people from blindly accepting whatever theories science puts in front of them. In a convo with a guy that sees the universe as geocentric? (Earth centered) with the earth stationary. I pointed out to him that the edge of the observable universe would have to exceed the speed of light by several magnitudes to rotate around the earth in 24 hours. he said he would get back to me on that one. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 33435073 United States02/14/2014 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1835 :greenkarma: User Votes and 824 :redkarma: Not that it matters, but you don't speak for everyone. You speak for less than a third. In fact, it's interesting how similar the percentage is to the percentage of americans who don't know that the earth revolves around the sun. Funny, that. Also Astro...many don't know that there are other galaxies...sigh... you obviously dont know its just as plausible that the sun revolves around the earth,cant be proven what you say no matter how many times you repeat it OMG...are you the parallax tard????? ASTRO.....HE'S BACK... |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31496863 Canada02/14/2014 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This brings up an interesting point. Most people would look at the statistic cited in the OP, roll there eyes, and think " how stupid are those people (the 25%)" while secretly praising themselves as "smart' for "knowing" the truth. But how many people have actually taken the time to scientifically verify the seemingly obvious and simple truth, that the earth orbits the sun, not the other way around. How many people would have the knowledge and equipment to be able to do this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30579593 It's easy for most people to mock proponents of scientific theory, and yet very few truly understand the science behind global warming or evolution, for example. However, that doesn't stop most people from blindly accepting whatever theories science puts in front of them. In a convo with a guy that sees the universe as geocentric? (Earth centered) with the earth stationary. I pointed out to him that the edge of the observable universe would have to exceed the speed of light by several magnitudes to rotate around the earth in 24 hours. he said he would get back to me on that one. thats because the earth doesnt rotate but thats another discussion |
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| Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States02/14/2014 03:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This brings up an interesting point. Most people would look at the statistic cited in the OP, roll there eyes, and think " how stupid are those people (the 25%)" while secretly praising themselves as "smart' for "knowing" the truth. But how many people have actually taken the time to scientifically verify the seemingly obvious and simple truth, that the earth orbits the sun, not the other way around. How many people would have the knowledge and equipment to be able to do this? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30579593 It's easy for most people to mock proponents of scientific theory, and yet very few truly understand the science behind global warming or evolution, for example. However, that doesn't stop most people from blindly accepting whatever theories science puts in front of them. In a convo with a guy that sees the universe as geocentric? (Earth centered) with the earth stationary. I pointed out to him that the edge of the observable universe would have to exceed the speed of light by several magnitudes to rotate around the earth in 24 hours. he said he would get back to me on that one. thats because the earth doesnt rotate but thats another discussion Then geostationary satellites would fall out of the sky, and prograde orbiting satellites would not be traveling slower relative to the surface of earth than retrograde or polar orbiting satellites. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 31496863 Canada02/14/2014 03:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Dr. Astro 1835 :greenkarma: User Votes and 824 :redkarma: Not that it matters, but you don't speak for everyone. You speak for less than a third. In fact, it's interesting how similar the percentage is to the percentage of americans who don't know that the earth revolves around the sun. Funny, that. Also Astro...many don't know that there are other galaxies...sigh... you obviously dont know its just as plausible that the sun revolves around the earth,cant be proven what you say no matter how many times you repeat it OMG...are you the parallax tard????? ASTRO.....HE'S BACK... i have formed this hypohesis on my own and evidence backed it just because they didnt teach you the alternative theory you imagine im damaged all info available for you to ya know |
| Dr. Astro Senior Forum Moderator User ID: 4211721 United States02/14/2014 03:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | you obviously dont know its just as plausible that the sun revolves around the earth,cant be proven what you say no matter how many times you repeat it OMG...are you the parallax tard????? ASTRO.....HE'S BACK... i have formed this hypohesis on my own and evidence backed it just because they didnt teach you the alternative theory you imagine im damaged all info available for you to ya know Was that supposed to be a sentence?  |
