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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 17 seg

#BreakingNews The Netherlands prepare a @UN resolution, calling for an international police operation at the #MH17 crash site.


 Quoting: Luisport


Indeed, and Dutch media are saying parliamentarians want it to be a military operation. And Australia is invited...

If that'll be the case, it'll be an automatic veto from Russia. However, what if the Netherlands actually ask Russia to participate??? (As hinted at before...)

 Quoting: Midlight


This will definitely vetoed, no US or allies troops in Ukraine in any form ever is probably the main Russian demand in whole crisis starting from February. If Netherlands send their forces there, it will be a war with Netherlands without question.
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Give me two options of actions that the EU could adopt, implement and enforce regarding Russia, that will accomplish EU aims, with respect to Putin. EU must do something more than window dressing and less than economic war. Tricky isn't it.
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I am not sure what the EU aims are, but the new government in the Ukraine is perceived as a grave threat to Russia's national security here, some as intolerable as Scotland seceding and allying with North Korea and inviting their army would be for England. I am afraid the only way the West can make Russian government accept that political change is to defeat Russia in a war, nothing short of that will change Russia's policy there. I believe that the whole set of options is about the conditions in which the war will start, whether it will be Russia attacking Ukraine now, or whether it will be Ukraine attempting to retake Crimea with the help of NATO after the rebels of Donbass will be defeated. The only way to avert the war is to give up support for the Kiev government and make them accept Russian conditions that would restore something similar to the status quo that existed before February.
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Ofcourse, almost 200 innocent Dutch people killed. And we do not believe it was Russia or the seperatists. It was Kiev teamplaying with America. So fuck you all
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I am sorry man for my country. America died in 1913 when satanic federal reserve was established. After that time we are robots of new world order. :(
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kiss

Just like in Kiev, its the gvrnmt that sucks and not the majority of residents [except those who are paid to kill and lie].
I really despise the Amerikan govt and the Ukie [after coup] govt !!!



Personally I think and find that the whole airplane victims are getting all the attention, and all respect with flowers and condolences [as should and expected], BUT ...
NO EUROPEAN MOURNS ABOUT THOSE MANY HUNDREDS OF INNOCENT VILLAGERS WHO WERE KILLED BY THIS WAR !!!!!

I have watched the vids with the dead people everywhere, torn apart from shelling-explosions ... horrible !
Glad I saw it coz I could pay respects to those in that way ...

It makes me so mad that many Europeans only care about their own people !!!!
Scandalous !!!!

The same goes for Gaza victims ....


I am so fed up with sheeple and dumbasses and egocentric people ! Yuk !!!

I am glad that we in this thread are aware of all the souls died, and keeping the facts clear and trying to figure out the Truth, coz thats the biggest respect and tribute we can give the dead !!!




xxxK

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Poroshenko say, that Ukraine shot down B-777 and Obama know about:

Intercept telephone call between Poroshenko and Obama in Russian linquage:
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Read and know detail what was in really.
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Kiev Has Not Responded to Russian Defense Ministry Questions on Malaysian Airliner Crash

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can you answer me, why did you kill my cat?

the same Ukraine can respond to stupid questions...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60628201


Except the questions weren't stupid. Besides, there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers
 Quoting: °Lucy°



Indeed stupid just like AC Spain's ...lol...

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Except the questions weren't stupid. Besides, there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers
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those are no stupid questions?.. lol.

That makes you sound VERY stupid!
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Only the narrow minded would say that wink
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Except the questions weren't stupid. Besides, there are no stupid questions, just stupid answers
 Quoting: °Lucy°


those are no stupid questions?.. lol.

That makes you sound VERY stupid!
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Only the narrow minded would say that wink
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lucy, not allowing criticism and deleting my posts shows you nothing but stupid.
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Can someone please BAN this guy ? abduct

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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 17 seg

#BreakingNews The Netherlands prepare a @UN resolution, calling for an international police operation at the #MH17 crash site.


 Quoting: Luisport


Indeed, and Dutch media are saying parliamentarians want it to be a military operation. And Australia is invited...

If that'll be the case, it'll be an automatic veto from Russia. However, what if the Netherlands actually ask Russia to participate??? (As hinted at before...)

 Quoting: Midlight


This will definitely vetoed, no US or allies troops in Ukraine in any form ever is probably the main Russian demand in whole crisis starting from February. If Netherlands send their forces there, it will be a war with Netherlands without question.
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Give me two options of actions that the EU could adopt, implement and enforce regarding Russia, that will accomplish EU aims, with respect to Putin. EU must do something more than window dressing and less than economic war. Tricky isn't it.
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they should fire their nazi cronies in Kiev as a start. And ask for release of evidence from Kiev and USA
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Seems like everyone's started ignoring Kiev. :P Dutch PM Rutte goes directly to Russia for assistance in plain crash investigation.
[link to en.ria.ru]
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 37 seg

#UnbelievableFootage The Russian army destroys an Ukrainian T-64 (and many more) in #Marinovka from #Russian_soil!!!


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Seems like everyone's started ignoring Kiev. :P Dutch PM Rutte goes directly to Russia for assistance in plain crash investigation.
[link to en.ria.ru]
 Quoting: Midlight


wow..this part of the article is interesting.

The Moscow-based Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC) said Wednesday that its official representative joined the work of the international commission on the investigation into the crash. The IAC representative will participate in the reading of flight recorders in the United Kingdom.

how likely is it that they can fake the findings if he is there?
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Yup I am so pleased that they are there too ... Great news !
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Things are looking bad in Gorlovka. Colleague there told me hundreds of cars queuing to get out. Bridge blown up:

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BREAKING: Air Algerie says it lost contact with a plane after takeoff via @AFP [link to read.bi]


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Thread: Breaking!!!, Air Algeria plane crashes
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#UnbelievableFootage The Russian army destroys an Ukrainian T-64 (and many more) in #Marinovka from #Russian_soil!!!



 Quoting: Luisport


Then it is on.
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Ofcourse, almost 200 innocent Dutch people killed. And we do not believe it was Russia or the seperatists. It was Kiev teamplaying with America. So fuck you all
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I am sorry man for my country. America died in 1913 when satanic federal reserve was established. After that time we are robots of new world order. :(
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60664684


kiss

Just like in Kiev, its the gvrnmt that sucks and not the majority of residents [except those who are paid to kill and lie].
I really despise the Amerikan govt and the Ukie [after coup] govt !!!



Personally I think and find that the whole airplane victims are getting all the attention, and all respect with flowers and condolences [as should and expected], BUT ...
NO EUROPEAN MOURNS ABOUT THOSE MANY HUNDREDS OF INNOCENT VILLAGERS WHO WERE KILLED BY THIS WAR !!!!!

I have watched the vids with the dead people everywhere, torn apart from shelling-explosions ... horrible !
Glad I saw it coz I could pay respects to those in that way ...

It makes me so mad that many Europeans only care about their own people !!!!
Scandalous !!!!

The same goes for Gaza victims ....


I am so fed up with sheeple and dumbasses and egocentric people ! Yuk !!!

I am glad that we in this thread are aware of all the souls died, and keeping the facts clear and trying to figure out the Truth, coz thats the biggest respect and tribute we can give the dead !!!




xxxK

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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 37 seg

#UnbelievableFootage The Russian army destroys an Ukrainian T-64 (and many more) in #Marinovka from #Russian_soil!!!



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That guy is a fucking clown.
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 37 seg

#UnbelievableFootage The Russian army destroys an Ukrainian T-64 (and many more) in #Marinovka from #Russian_soil!!!



 Quoting: Luisport


It's funny how conflictreporter yells: RUSSIA INVADES!! 2 TANKS SPOTTED YESTERDAY!

And the next day: RUSSIA INVADES AGAIN! A BATTALION WAS SEEN NEAR THE RUSSIAN BORDER!
-Oh nvm, that was a UA battalion.

Anyways. Conflictreporter is such a joke, he makes strong claims against Russia all the time and can't even prove 5% of the tweets.
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 37 seg

#UnbelievableFootage The Russian army destroys an Ukrainian T-64 (and many more) in #Marinovka from #Russian_soil!!!



 Quoting: Luisport


That guy is a fucking clown.
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Yup he's a known shill posting from Mommy's basement.
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 37 seg

#UnbelievableFootage The Russian army destroys an Ukrainian T-64 (and many more) in #Marinovka from #Russian_soil!!!



 Quoting: Luisport


That guy is a fucking clown.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I think that everybody that still posts tweets from this asshole should be perma-banned!!
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 37 seg

#UnbelievableFootage The Russian army destroys an Ukrainian T-64 (and many more) in #Marinovka from #Russian_soil!!!



 Quoting: Luisport


That guy is a fucking clown.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I think that everybody that still posts tweets from this asshole should be perma-banned!!
 Quoting: KipKat


And chances for Luis banning himself are apsolute zero.He even makes the bozo's tweets a thread titles. go figure
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 37 seg

#UnbelievableFootage The Russian army destroys an Ukrainian T-64 (and many more) in #Marinovka from #Russian_soil!!!



 Quoting: Luisport


That guy is a fucking clown.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I think that everybody that still posts tweets from this asshole should be perma-banned!!
 Quoting: KipKat


like me? I allready sayed that i post everything i find. I think it's easyer this way to see what is true or false info. peace
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ConflictReporter @MiddleEast_BRK · 37 seg

#UnbelievableFootage The Russian army destroys an Ukrainian T-64 (and many more) in #Marinovka from #Russian_soil!!!



 Quoting: Luisport


That guy is a fucking clown.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I think that everybody that still posts tweets from this asshole should be perma-banned!!
 Quoting: KipKat


like me? I allready sayed that i post everything i find. I think it's easyer this way to see what is true or false info. peace
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ban yourself Luis, you are bad ;)
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That guy is a fucking clown.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I think that everybody that still posts tweets from this asshole should be perma-banned!!
 Quoting: KipKat


like me? I allready sayed that i post everything i find. I think it's easyer this way to see what is true or false info. peace
 Quoting: Luisport


ban yourself Luis, you are bad ;)
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Yea i'm so so bad boy!!! catfilenails
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I think that everybody that still posts tweets from this asshole should be perma-banned!!
 Quoting: KipKat


like me? I allready sayed that i post everything i find. I think it's easyer this way to see what is true or false info. peace
 Quoting: Luisport


ban yourself Luis, you are bad ;)
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Yea i'm so so bad boy!!! catfilenails
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and thank you for that gift :) I will keep on reporting whatever I can confirm out of Ukraine.
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Seriously, what are we suppose to post then? I sure dont have any classified secret intel information to share. All we can do is to post info from newspaper, Twitter or other known sources and all we can do about those sources is to speculate and discuss whether likely truthful info.

Yes, the only thing we can is to speculate and nothing more.
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#UnbelievableFootage The Russian army destroys an Ukrainian T-64 (and many more) in #Marinovka from #Russian_soil!!!



 Quoting: Luisport


That guy is a fucking clown.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I think that everybody that still posts tweets from this asshole should be perma-banned!!
 Quoting: KipKat


like me? I allready sayed that i post everything i find. I think it's easyer this way to see what is true or false info. peace
 Quoting: Luisport


No, not you! hf

But when he has a proven record of disinfo, you could ignore him! He only makes factfinding more difficult. I'd rather not know, than fill my head my BS.

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Seems like everyone's started ignoring Kiev. :P Dutch PM Rutte goes directly to Russia for assistance in plain crash investigation.
[link to en.ria.ru]
 Quoting: Midlight


wow..this part of the article is interesting.

The Moscow-based Interstate Aviation Committee (IAC) said Wednesday that its official representative joined the work of the international commission on the investigation into the crash. The IAC representative will participate in the reading of flight recorders in the United Kingdom.

how likely is it that they can fake the findings if he is there?
 Quoting: RTS REDUX


Yup I am so pleased that they are there too ... Great news !
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I think it's been agreed for a while (GLP timescale!) that the IAC would participate in this. From what I read they all sit in a room with speakers on every wall when they first play the recording, so they can take in as much as possible what there is to hear.

I don't think there's any way to fake anything at that stage.
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That guy is a fucking clown.
 Quoting: Star Fhisp


I think that everybody that still posts tweets from this asshole should be perma-banned!!
 Quoting: KipKat


like me? I allready sayed that i post everything i find. I think it's easyer this way to see what is true or false info. peace
 Quoting: Luisport


ban yourself Luis, you are bad ;)
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Not blaming Luis but if only 5% of those tweets were accurate we wold have a nuclear ww3 ended by now. Talking about false info this would qualify as maaaaajooooor bs ysource.
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I am not sure what the EU aims are, but the new government in the Ukraine is perceived as a grave threat to Russia's national security here... I am afraid the only way the West can make Russian government accept that political change is to defeat Russia in a war, nothing short of that will change Russia's policy there.
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You are asserting that for Ukraine to be truly free and independent, the Putinist/Soviet/tsarist/Mongol empire must be destroyed. If that is Putin's view also, then so be it.

Sic semper tyrannis. "Thus always to tyrants."

In contrast, this was the solemn agreement to which President Boris Yeltsin signed his name, and the condition under which Ukraine agreed to scrap its large nuclear arsenal:

[link to en.wikisource.org]
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The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to respect the Independence and Sovereignty and the existing borders of Ukraine.

The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their obligation to refrain from the threat or use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of Ukraine, and that none of their weapons will ever be used against Ukraine except in self-defense or otherwise in accordance with the Charter of the United Nations.

The United States of America, the Russian Federation, and the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, reaffirm their commitment to Ukraine, in accordance with the principles of the CSCE Final Act, to refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.
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The truth is this i don't know what is true or false... when we post some tweet or any rumour sooner or later we will get it confirmed or not... so i think it's good to post everything we all can find from both sides... peace
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The truth is this i don't know what is true or false... when we post some tweet or any rumour sooner or later we will get it confirmed or not... so i think it's good to post everything we all can find from both sides... peace
 Quoting: Luisport


that is sensible and then let people here filter it down to find the facts
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