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UKRAINE/RUSSIA NEWS: Russian military drills begin near Ukraine day after militants announce 100k strong mobalisation!!!p.7387

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yes people i think this it it. was still wondering how things would go but now i see it. dutch special forces and other countries will go there on a so called police mission. then some of those guys get snipered or something like that.Then everybody here will be really outraged. they gonna build this new anger of the people on top of the mh17 anger so nobody in this country gives a damn anymore if we go to war.
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could you post a Dutch website which talks about sending them in 100%? I have also read that the Australian 'police team' has arrived in London already.. I'm really curious about this.
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Ukraine PM Arseniy #Yatseniuk resigns saying parliament has not voted for their initiatives and dissolved coalition
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I never did trust that cabalist fishface.
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Breaking News AUS ‏@AusNewsNetwork 1 min

Reports from #Ukraine that Prime Minister Arseniy #Yatsenyuk & his govt resign because of collapse of coalition.
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It's only me thinking or this is the time for a big Russia moove?
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Nah. Putin has no stomach for it, for it would've been done a long time ago.
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UKRAINE'S TURCHYNOV ASKS UDAR AND SVOBODA TO NOMINATE TECHNICAL PM CANDIDATE -- INTERFAX
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It's only me thinking or this is the time for a big Russia moove?
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Nah. Putin has no stomach for it, for it would've been done a long time ago.
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read my post under yours lol
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seems a total collapse

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#Ukraine finance minister says no more pay for #Ukie troops after 1 August.
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@russian_market: #BREAKING YATSENYUK RESIGNS
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The big question will be who replaces him. If it's the Pravy Sektor guy then who knows what he might try to do.
 Quoting: Lime Flavoured Redux


That was the one that Nuland said they wanted to keep in the background to start.

Now that things have gone to hell maybe she will let the Nazi Pravy sector leader be the PM now.

Why not? The Right Sector national guard has an SS patch so what is the use hiding it?

Nazis go big or go home.

Odd that Nuland...a Jew would support Nazis...so evil.

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Russians were always the vast majority in eastern Ukraine.
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There was no Ukraine before 1922, when the bolsheviks took from Russia the most fertile russian land, full of russians, and named it Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60676590

The 2001 census makes clear that ethnic Russians are a minority in every region except Crimea:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Ukraine, first known as Kyivan Rus and then Ruthenia, has a distinguished history stretching over 1000 years:

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Notable historic milestones are:

- Acceptance of Christianity in 988 A.D.

- Coronation of Daniel of Galicia as King of All Rus in 1245 A.D.

- Reunification of Catholic and Orthodox churches at the Council of Florence in 1439, led by Isidore of Kiev (later failed due to violent opposition of Muscovite grand duke and archbishop)

- Elevation of Ruthenia to co-equality in a Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth in 1658 in the Treaty of Hadiach (later failed due to political opposition on both sides)

- Recognition of Ukrainian independence by both Russia and Germany in the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk in 1918

- Alliance between Poland and Ukraine to liberate their lands from Communist imperialists in the Treaty of Warsaw in 1920 (later failed due to political opposition on all sides)

- Recognition of Ukraine as a founding member of the United Nations in 1945

- Solemn promise by Russia to respect Ukraine's independence and territorial integrity as a condition of Ukraine's scrapping of its large nuclear arsenal, in the Budapest Memorandum of 1994
 Quoting: Skeptic the First


Stop spreading this bullshit.

"Ukraine, first known as Kievan Rus" sound like "Mexico, first known as Mayan Empire". There was no such word as Ukraine or Ukrainian national identity at the times of Kievan Rus, and the claims of a direct succession are laughable. Ruthenia is a term that was used by western Europeans to refer to Eastern Slavs, and was later used for the Eastern Slavic population of the Austrian empire, it was never used by any Slavs to identify themselves, and it is very ambiguous.

Daniel of Galicia was indeed crowned the King of all Russia during the years of the Mongol invasion, and indeed at that time Galicia controlled vast territories all the way to Kiev, but his coronation and pro-western orientation didn't help him to obtain any significant help from the West, he was forced to reaffirm his loyalty to the Khan and pay tribute to him, and shortly after his death his kingdom collapsed and was looted by the Poles and Lithuanians, and all the time since then till now Galicians never had an independent state and were miserable Polish serfs for most of the time.

The reunification of the Catholic and the Orthodox Churches failed because of the reasons that were far beyond the Slavic world. It was first of all the second reunification attempt, the first one took place in the early 13th century when the Byzantine empire was threatened by the Seljuks and sought help from the West European Christian Brothers, but the crusader army they sent suddenly decided to pillage Constantinople instead and left the Byzantine empire completely crippled and fragmented; by the Council of Florence Byzantine Empire almost completely seized to exist and the emperor was eager to give up everything to save his remaining people from the Turkish slavery, but the West Europeans were happy to accept the recognition of the supremacy of the Roman Catholic Church, and... did nothing to help the poor Greeks. That's essentially why the reunification failed again. By that time, the seat of the Metropolitan of Kiev had been moved to Vladimir-on-Kliazma, Russia, and later to Moscow for some two centuries, and it was only after he signed the treaty that was disapproved by the Moscovian Grand Duke that he had to flee from Russia to the polish-occupied Kiev.

The elevation of Ruthenia to co-equality in a Polish-Lithuanian-Ruthenian Commonwealth in 1658 never happened, and all the time only the Polish and the Lithuanians were recognized as first class citizens of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Russians of Poland (ancestors of modern Ukrainians and Belorussians), called here by their German name "Ruthenians", have been always been second-class citizens there and never had full rights; by 1658 Poland was in a desperate situation, and the elevation of the "Ruthenians" was one of the extreme measure considered, along with a proposed coronation of the Russian Tzar as a King of Poland, but none of the two happened.

Recognition of the Ukrainian independence in 1918 was one of the conditions of the Russian capitulation to Germany, and the newly created country was immediately occupied by Germany. After Germany surrendered to the Western powers later the same year, the artificial Ukrainian state collapsed very quickly.

The "alliance" between Poland and Ukraine happened after the Ukrainians attempted to declare an independent state in the Western Ukraine following the collapse of the Austrian empire, but were quickly crashed by the Poles who also declared independence and claimed the same territory. The surviving West Ukrainian army retreated to the East to help the remaining Ukrainian separatists who were desperate to hold at least some land, using the fact that most of the territory of the Ukraine was at that time a battlefield between the Red and the White Russian armies, and both were too busy to mess with the separatists. As soon as the Bolsheviks won the civil war, they quickly smashed the remaining separatists, and they had nothing to do but to run back to Poland and beg them for help, for which they agreed to give up their claims for the Western Ukraine and give it up to the Poles. Since the Poles didn't manage to grab more land from Russia, the "alliance" naturally failed.

The Ukrainian Soviet Socialist republic was indeed one of the founding members of the UN, but it had nothing to do with the WW1 separatists and WW2 collaborationists who formed a government in exile and who are now glorified by the regime in Kiev.

The Budapest memorandum was needed because the newly formed Ukrainian state grabbed a part of the Russian nuclear arsenal that was stationed on its territory and didn't want to give it back, while it was obvious for everybody that such a miserable state lacking adequate technology was incapable of safely operating nuclear arms and ensure non-proliferation, so the entire world had to push on them to curb their inadequate ambitions and force them to give the nukes back.
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UKRAINE PM YATSENIUK RESIGNS AFTER GOVT COALITION COLLAPSES



 Quoting: Luisport


Guys, Ukraine is as bankrupt as Bulgaria and as you can see, the same events are taking place in both countries, at the same time:

Jul 22, 2014
Bulgaria's central bank governor says ready to resign

Bulgaria's central bank governor Ivan Iskrov said on Tuesday that he was ready to tender his resignation amid a raging controversy over the fate of the country's fourth-largest bank.
"If parliament reaches consensus to vote on appointing a new BNB governor before it breaks up on August 6, I am ready to table my resignation immediately," Iskrov said in a letter to lawmakers.
The governor of ten years has faced pressure to leave over accusations that the central bank's poor supervision lead to the near-collapse of Corporate Commercial Bank, which was taken over by the BNB in June.
[link to www.newsdaily.com]

Jul. 23, 2014
Bulgaria's technocrat prime minister resigns amid banking crisis
In power for just over a year, his government bowed out after the ruling Socialists' poor showing in May's European Parliament elections, paving the way for an interim government to take over in August and a general election in October.
[link to www.businessinsider.com]

Thread: Bulgaria on the verge of bankruptcy

Get ready for CHAOS!
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seems a total collapse

need confirmation

#Ukraine finance minister says no more pay for #Ukie troops after 1 August.
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@russian_market: #BREAKING YATSENYUK RESIGNS
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Didn't he announce this a week ago or something? I remember seeing something about it. Or did I just jump timelines?
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I remember. Severally weeks actually.
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It's only me thinking or this is the time for a big Russia moove?
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I honestly don't know. Two months ago the "move" seemed probable and nothing happened.
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seems a total collapse

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#Ukraine finance minister says no more pay for #Ukie troops after 1 August.
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Desperate situation indeed.

This can only lead to full scale World War.
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seems that all government resigned, not just the PM
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#Ukraine finance minister says no more pay for #Ukie troops after 1 August.
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It's only me thinking or this is the time for a big Russia moove?
 Quoting: Luisport


I suppose that depends. Does Russia wait for the MH17 crash "security" team to go in or move before they get there? Does Putin suggest he be the one to secure the area?

Let's face it, Putin is alpha. So in his mind, if he's thinking NATO and the US are trying to frame him for MH17 he would also think he needs to be the one to secure the area to make it so the "truth" comes out.

WWIII could very well break out over who's going to control the MH17 crash site because each side thinks the other is lying and want the truth.

Whoa, that's actually brilliant. I mean it's not good news, but strategically it's brilliant. MH17 was downed, but, it doesn't matter. You pin it on Putin and actually do your best to make it look like a frame job, even though it may not be, and Putin, to save face, is going to have to make a move to protect his reputation, if to no one else to himself. Putin believes a side of the story and he's such an alpha he won't be able to allow himself to be "framed" so he could very well move in to "Secure" the crash site to protect his reputation. Again this is in his POV. The West could simply be faking the bumbling of the investigation to make Putin think they're trying to frame him. Wow.
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UKRAINE PM YATSENIUK RESIGNS AFTER GOVT COALITION COLLAPSES



 Quoting: Luisport


Guys, Ukraine is as bankrupt as Bulgaria and as you can see, the same events are taking place in both countries, at the same time:

Jul 22, 2014
Bulgaria's central bank governor says ready to resign

Bulgaria's central bank governor Ivan Iskrov said on Tuesday that he was ready to tender his resignation amid a raging controversy over the fate of the country's fourth-largest bank.
"If parliament reaches consensus to vote on appointing a new BNB governor before it breaks up on August 6, I am ready to table my resignation immediately," Iskrov said in a letter to lawmakers.
The governor of ten years has faced pressure to leave over accusations that the central bank's poor supervision lead to the near-collapse of Corporate Commercial Bank, which was taken over by the BNB in June.
[link to www.newsdaily.com]

Jul. 23, 2014
Bulgaria's technocrat prime minister resigns amid banking crisis
In power for just over a year, his government bowed out after the ruling Socialists' poor showing in May's European Parliament elections, paving the way for an interim government to take over in August and a general election in October.
[link to www.businessinsider.com]

Thread: Bulgaria on the verge of bankruptcy

Get ready for CHAOS!
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seems a total collapse

need confirmation

#Ukraine finance minister says no more pay for #Ukie troops after 1 August.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60674199


Europe is bankrupt and is collapsing right now, so Russia can step in and overtake it without shooting a bullet, just like in Crimea!
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seems a total collapse

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#Ukraine finance minister says no more pay for #Ukie troops after 1 August.
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Now you know why the Ukies team played this desperate false flag when they did. They are BROKE!
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BREAKING - DAUGHTER OF CUBA'S PRESIDENT RAUL CASTRO WAS ONBOARD CRASHED AIR ALGERIE PLANE, CNN SAYS #AH5017
"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die."
-Jean Paul Sartre

"In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
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"China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."
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"Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch."
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World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020.
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yes people i think this it it. was still wondering how things would go but now i see it. dutch special forces and other countries will go there on a so called police mission. then some of those guys get snipered or something like that.Then everybody here will be really outraged. they gonna build this new anger of the people on top of the mh17 anger so nobody in this country gives a damn anymore if we go to war.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 42694390


could you post a Dutch website which talks about sending them in 100%? I have also read that the Australian 'police team' has arrived in London already.. I'm really curious about this.
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the parliament still has to vote ok for it to go trough but i lost all hope for them. their the biggest bunch of sheep in the whole country. believe me they will vote ok for a police mission just like they did for iraq and afghanistan.

if you want dutch news www.nos.nl www.rtlnieuws.nl
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BREAKING - DAUGHTER OF CUBA'S PRESIDENT RAUL CASTRO WAS ONBOARD CRASHED AIR ALGERIE PLANE, CNN SAYS #AH5017
 Quoting: Falter


If true!! Hooly shit!
"When the rich wage war, it's the poor who die."
-Jean Paul Sartre

"In modern war... you will die like a dog for no good reason."
-Ernest Hemingway

"China is a sleeping giant, Let her sleep, for when she wakes, she will shake the world."
-Napoleon Bonaparte

"Streets of Leningrad taught me one thing - if fight is inevitable, throw the first punch."
-Vladimir Putin

World War 3 prediction: Summer 2020.
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BREAKING - DAUGHTER OF CUBA'S PRESIDENT RAUL CASTRO WAS ONBOARD CRASHED AIR ALGERIE PLANE, CNN SAYS #AH5017
 Quoting: Falter


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The video below, was uploaded to the Russian version of "FaceBook", a service called "VK.com" by an active-duty Russian regular army soldier. It clearly shows the regular Russian Army launching an attack with GRAD missiles, against Ukraine, from position INSIDE Russia!

This is proof that it is not "Ukrainian separatists" or "Rebels" fighting against the Ukraine government, it is in fact the Regular Russian Army, launching attacks from inside Russia, against Ukraine.

This is video proof that Russia is waging actual war against Ukraine.

 Quoting: Interested Reader 2


Is it not plausible that this is an exercise ?

I can't see Russian's striking from Russian territory, It would go against everything Russia, has been proclaiming and something like this, would be so obvious as opposed to, a random mortar or Arty shell...

Russian wouldn't strike like this without actually going in if this is real, Then its softening up the area and an invasion would be imminent...

Can these guys accounts on VK be verified as anyone could be putting up these vid's and picture's, It could even be militia men posing as Reg's, It just doesn't seem true as the west would be all over this.
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seems a total collapse

need confirmation

#Ukraine finance minister says no more pay for #Ukie troops after 1 August.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60674199


If the Ukrainian military didn't have ample reason to quit the ATO, they will soon. Many are reluctant to be there in the first place.

Add to that this recent article;

[link to en.ria.ru]
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BREAKING - DAUGHTER OF CUBA'S PRESIDENT RAUL CASTRO WAS ONBOARD CRASHED AIR ALGERIE PLANE, CNN SAYS #AH5017
 Quoting: Falter


If true!! Hooly shit!
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Why? Who cares about castro and his niece?
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BREAKING - DAUGHTER OF CUBA'S PRESIDENT RAUL CASTRO WAS ONBOARD CRASHED AIR ALGERIE PLANE, CNN SAYS #AH5017
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If true!! Hooly shit!
 Quoting: Falter


Why? Who cares about castro and his niece?
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cuba still has nukes coughs
I don't give a shit anymore.
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@mpoppel
The airport in Burkina Faso claims Mariela Castro, the niece of Fidel Castro, was on board Air Algerie plane. Not confirmed by other sources
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BREAKING - DAUGHTER OF CUBA'S PRESIDENT RAUL CASTRO WAS ONBOARD CRASHED AIR ALGERIE PLANE, CNN SAYS #AH5017
 Quoting: Falter


alonealonealone
 Quoting: Luisport


who cares of two old man living in a failed isle lol, in the geopolitical point of view this is nothing.
Condolence to the family.





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