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LSD helps to treat alcoholism ! What do you think?

 
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Haven't tried that in my sobriety. Heh. There's an idea though. No drink in a very, very long time. Don't miss it one bit. It's wonderful! I can just be plain crazy w/o alcohol.
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An oldie but goodie about LSD:


Greater is He who is in me than he who is in the world.

Whatever feels good to your soul, do that.
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A single strong LSD 'trip' can help “break down” alcoholics’ egos and thereby create a spiritual awakening. Clinical trials have proven this to be statistically significant.

Unfortunately the effect for many seems to wear of after 6 months & the alcoholic may return to harmful drinking patterns...but 6 months is 6 months you could be using to become a better you.

Addiction aside, I feel many on GLP could benefit from crucifying their egos.

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can you become so addicted to it?
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no
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I've had my spiritual awakenings without the use of drugs. Just ask God who he is, and he will respond quickly or slowly...

LSD is just another counterfeit for the real thing.

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My mom met someone who did LSD in the past and suffered a lifetime of nightmarish flashbacks. He could barely hold a job as a cab driver.

Anything that alters your brain chemistry to make you drunk or high is killing brain cells to do so. Another study in the news on this just last week.

Prayers for anyone suffering addiction. Please get help and know you are loved.
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I'm sorry but that just isn't true. I have and also know people who have tripped several times and never once had a flashback. You would still have to have some of the chemical in your brain to have a flashback.

What your mom's friend has is a mental problem but is isn't from tripping
If something can corrupt you, you're corrupted already.

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My mom met someone who did LSD in the past and suffered a lifetime of nightmarish flashbacks. He could barely hold a job as a cab driver.

Anything that alters your brain chemistry to make you drunk or high is killing brain cells to do so. Another study in the news on this just last week.

Prayers for anyone suffering addiction. Please get help and know you are loved.
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I'm sorry but that just isn't true. I have and also know people who have tripped several times and never once had a flashback. You would still have to have some of the chemical in your brain to have a flashback.

What your mom's friend has is a mental problem but is isn't from tripping
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Sorry, in the 60's there were lots of young people who took too much acid and never came back to the extent that they could function in society, and ended up institutionalized.

People having acid flashbacks long after it left their systems was not uncommon at all.

Maybe the acid is just weaker now.
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That's a given for a woman...
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Okay Brief. We know. We know.

hf

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LOL, it's not an insult...I love women...the vagina is my favorite part
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I'm a tit man myself...
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I consider LSD as my ultimate drug for my mind, never tried DMT but lsd is my boy, I know it for sure.

LSD mimics death on higher doses, it is truly the most frightening and wonderful experiences you can get in this world.

LSD makes you way smarter, wakes you up, gives you knowledge but also can take everything from you in matter of seconds, very powerful drug, not a funny drug, nope not at all, I learned it the hard way
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It's amazing how small minded some of you are.
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It's more amazing how addicted some of you are.
How drunk minded you are.

Stay sober and win, get drunk and lose.
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If you have not already seen this documentary about the endogenous halucinogen, DMT:



The scientists wanted to try DMT on terminally ill cancer patients because DMT seems to "cure" the fear of dying, but I don't know if they got green light for a study like that.
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I think most every healthy and mentally sound adult should take a couple of LSD trips.

It truly enables you to perceive reality in an alternative state of the same reality that is the norm.

That is the benefit really. It allows the mind to accept the possibility of alternative perspectives as valid.

the long term benefit is you become more able to understand other peoples perspectives.

You also are shocked by the realization that there are actually other perspectives in life. And they might just be more valid than the ones you hold or held dear all those years.

Very powerful and safe drug.

It just takes a few trips in a lifetime to realize major benefits.

This has been my experience.
please try to tell me the truth...
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OK religious bigots aside

religious bigots = people who regard or treat other people with different beliefs with intolerance & hatred.

Here is the bottom line:

It has been shown to be statistically significant that heavy drinkers are less likely to relapse when treated with LSD as part of a treatment program.

Nothing more nothing less, do what you will with that information.
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can you become so addicted to it?
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No, you will get tired of LSD long before you can become addicted, even psychologically...but while tripping, you can easily drink twice your body weight and not be drunk...but of course I wouldn't know because I don't do drugs...


acid
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Oh I think you know...

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I think I'm going to rehab.
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Rehab is for quitters...

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Okay Brief. We know. We know.

hf

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LOL, it's not an insult...I love women...the vagina is my favorite part
grinning
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I'm a tit man myself...
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Tits are nice, but it's more fun to fuck a pussy...




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Titty fucking is highly overrated...unless you're on acid.
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I think nature gave us all kinds of cures to fix what is broken as vine or shrooms but not for play
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From experience, it took me 4hrs to drink 1/2 a beer when on LSD. So maybe if your on it indefinitely?
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Re: LSD helps to treat alcoholism ! What do you think?
face it if you drink alcohol. you ARE Poisoning your body. Alcohol creates a sub ego within the drinker which tells him HE or she needs the elixir . LSD like was said before give a break into the consciousness and WILL SHOW THE Abuser WHAT THERE BODY LOOKS LIKE from another perspective and liettarlly shows them what kind of mess THEY ARE. there own perception of them selves from inside the counter ego is and always will be distorted . YOU NEED one chemical to break down another simple enough.
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If you read the text, Alcoholics Anonymous with some degree of comprehension, you will find that the disease of alcoholism is a Spiritual malady.

The only course of action which the alcoholic can depend upon to gain a defense against the first drink, is a Relationship With God. Medical science still has no means to bring about Recovery from alcoholism.

The idea of "treating" alcoholism with any drug or hallucinogen is ludicrous. Of course, there is no money for the medical community in telling their patients they need to put their reliance upon God. No money for the religious community in that advice either, evidently...


Nonetheless, there is RECOVERY from alcoholism. Not an ongoing "recovering" situation; but an immediate and complete recovery. Does this mean the alcoholic can return to drinking "normally"? NO. Why would you desire to? Alcohol, after all, does have the same physiological effects on each drinker; none of them health positive. (If you're gonna cite the positive effects of red wine resins, you can drink Grape Juice.)

The problem the alcoholic has with regard to drinking is being unable to mount a defense against the idea that might arise on occasion, "I can just have one drink, can't I? This time it will be different!" Except it never is. The alcoholic needs God to Enable them to recall why they don't want to take that first drink.


Alopathic medicine and the medical community it has produced through its "medical schools" since the 1920s makes the war dept physicians of Japan and Nazi Germany seem benign.
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LSD helps to treat alcoholism !

... and then you treat LSD with marijuana.

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YOU are the treatment. LSD can help to make a stronger-minded YOU.
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A book, by P.g. Stafford and B.H.Golightly
'LSD', the problem-solving drug. 1967
'We began to study a group of very difficult psychopathic alcoholics.
We have now treated sixty of them, and half are no longer alcoholic
after one treatment; so we do see that this drug has great potential
for changing people.'' Dr. Abraham Hoffer
( from the preface )
hf
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From the personal experience of a family member, I can share that heavy LSD use as a teenager and young adult (friend was in a travelling, semi-successful rock band in the 1970's), results in permanently changing the brain in terms of serotonin uptake.

The person is 'hooked' on anything that duplicates the 'pleasure'.

This includes future alcohol addiction.

It goes both ways. The alcoholic wants drugs again.

So really, from the level of physiology, there is no difference between intoxicants of any kind.

What is not discussed by the medical literature, of course, are the social, empathic, and spiritual results of 'masturbating your mind' with hallucinogens... which include alcohol, for all intents and purposes.

The only treatment is abstinence, backed by the decision to totally renounce this form of self-destructive behavior.

The 'demon of drink' is very obvious:

- Violence
- Drunk driving (a form of unconscious death-wish/suicide)
- Collapse of inhibitions designed into human beings for self-preservation

So replace it with LSD and what do you have?

No answer is necessary.
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Ignorance is bliss, eh?
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From experience, it took me 4hrs to drink 1/2 a beer when on LSD. So maybe if your on it indefinitely?
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LSD can help, not by making you high on something else, but by changing the way you perceive things. You make drink alcohol for fun or you maybe trying to escape reality by using it constantly. LSD can make you see that maybe escaping reality isn't a good idea because reality is a wonderful thing.

LSD will take your mind to the edge of reality and back to tell you or make you realize something monumental that could very well improve your life.
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I've had my spiritual awakenings without the use of drugs. Just ask God who he is, and he will respond quickly or slowly...

LSD is just another counterfeit for the real thing.
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then you are not speaking from experience and the op asked about treating alcoholism.
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So the way to stop drinking brandy in my coffee is to,

drop Lsd.


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So the way to stop drinking brandy in my coffee is to,

drop Lsd.


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That ignorance is what put that brandy in your coffee.
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So the way to stop drinking brandy in my coffee is to,

drop Lsd.


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That ignorance is what put that brandy in your coffee.
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zing!
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I'll give it a try!





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