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LSD helps to treat alcoholism ! What do you think?

 
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An analysis of old studies suggests LSD may have a role to play in treating alcoholism.

The powerful hallucinogen LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) has potential as a treatment for alcoholism, according to a retrospective analysis of studies published in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
some more info in the blog...
Does anybody have experience with LSD ?


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 Quoting: mraychev


I have never taken LSD - but I have friends who did - believe me, not a good thing!

Alcohol and LSD are both "drugs" in their own right. I don't know about you - but I would think it would be that old saying of "choosing between the two evils!"

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I think I'm going to rehab.
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Rehab is for quitters...

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My mom met someone who did LSD in the past and suffered a lifetime of nightmarish flashbacks. He could barely hold a job as a cab driver.

Anything that alters your brain chemistry to make you drunk or high is killing brain cells to do so. Another study in the news on this just last week.

Prayers for anyone suffering addiction. Please get help and know you are loved.
 Quoting: USDAlady


I'm sorry but that just isn't true. I have and also know people who have tripped several times and never once had a flashback. You would still have to have some of the chemical in your brain to have a flashback.

What your mom's friend has is a mental problem but is isn't from tripping
 Quoting: Founders Fan


Sorry, in the 60's there were lots of young people who took too much acid and never came back to the extent that they could function in society, and ended up institutionalized.

People having acid flashbacks long after it left their systems was not uncommon at all.

Maybe the acid is just weaker now.
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LSD is not the reason people end up institutionalized. They were going to be sooner or later, LSD just expedited the inevitable
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lsd makes you happy so should help with alc
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A bullet to the head would pretty much serve the same purpose as LSD. If you want to treat alcoholism, maybe you could try not drinking.
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I think I'm going to rehab.
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Just do it my friend, sick and tired of being sick and tired is no way to live, you emptiness can be filled. It really can, it can be filled with the right things, just go. Be one of us, smile again like a kid.

Good Luck to You
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I am pretty sure that LSD is not addictive. I have used it quite often as of late. I have never suffered from withdrawls ... However, I have suffered sleep deprivation! Lol. I never want it to end, so I stay awake as long as I can. I have also noticed that I can drink like a fish while on it and not really feel any effects of the alcohol.
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I am pretty sure that LSD is not addictive. I have used it quite often as of late. I have never suffered from withdrawls ... However, I have suffered sleep deprivation! Lol. I never want it to end, so I stay awake as long as I can. I have also noticed that I can drink like a fish while on it and not really feel any effects of the alcohol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36326614


Oh,yeah,you're going to be fine. I see a long and productive life ahead for you.
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My mom met someone who did LSD in the past and suffered a lifetime of nightmarish flashbacks. He could barely hold a job as a cab driver.

Anything that alters your brain chemistry to make you drunk or high is killing brain cells to do so. Another study in the news on this just last week.

Prayers for anyone suffering addiction. Please get help and know you are loved.
 Quoting: USDAlady


I'm sorry but that just isn't true. I have and also know people who have tripped several times and never once had a flashback. You would still have to have some of the chemical in your brain to have a flashback.

What your mom's friend has is a mental problem but is isn't from tripping
 Quoting: Founders Fan


Sorry, in the 60's there were lots of young people who took too much acid and never came back to the extent that they could function in society, and ended up institutionalized.

People having acid flashbacks long after it left their systems was not uncommon at all.

Maybe the acid is just weaker now.
 Quoting: waterlily




LSD is not the reason people end up institutionalized. They were going to be sooner or later, LSD just expedited the inevitable
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 47319792


Were you there?
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From the personal experience of a family member, I can share that heavy LSD use as a teenager and young adult (friend was in a travelling, semi-successful rock band in the 1970's), results in permanently changing the brain in terms of brain serotonin uptake.

The person is 'hooked' on anything that duplicates the 'pleasure'.

This includes future alcohol addiction.

It goes both ways. The alcoholic wants drugs again.

So really, from the level of physiology, there is no difference between intoxicants of any kind.

What is not discussed by the medical literature, of course, are the social, empathic, and spiritual results of 'masturbating your mind' with hallucinogens.,, which include alcohol.

The only treatment is abstinence, backed by the decision to totally renounce this form of self-destructive behavior.
 Quoting: Purgatory


Misuse is tragic, and yet I find the thought of end of life patients feeling less fear of death to be a rather humane use of this drug.
I just can't see repeat use of this drug. The problem is it can damage you from the first try.
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With proper preparation and administration there is practically no way LSD can damage you.
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I agree with you but I wouldn't stand on the corner and try and score some.
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Why in the world would anyone have 'fear of death'?

(Your answer will tell you more about yourself than you want to admit.)
 Quoting: Purgatory


Some people have an extreme fear of death.
I don't, though I'm not interested in the prospect currently.
The fear of death drives a whole host of human behavior.
That's a whole different thread.
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I am pretty sure that LSD is not addictive. I have used it quite often as of late. I have never suffered from withdrawls ... However, I have suffered sleep deprivation! Lol. I never want it to end, so I stay awake as long as I can. I have also noticed that I can drink like a fish while on it and not really feel any effects of the alcohol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36326614


Oh,yeah,you're going to be fine. I see a long and productive life ahead for you.
 Quoting: troungshixam


Yup! 'cuz I said I use it ALL the time, didn't I? No, in fact, it rarely comes around in my area. I usually get to do it once a year if I am lucky. Your snooty remark would have, maybe, held some weight if I had said that I sit in my basement and drop acid ALL THE TIME mmmaaaann! Yeah! Whhooo! Alas, that is not what I said. You just make yourself out to look like a little bitch. I bet saying that made you feel so much better about yourself huh? That's okay. If that's how you gotta act to help get you through your day, it's whatever. If you have never tried acid, you are missing out on a very, very awesome experience.
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My Mensa brother, who is in Heaven now, lived at Haight Ashbury in the '60s. He 'dropped acid' like people, oh, let's see, smoke a marijuana cigarette, you might say. I have never taken LSD in my life. Not for me at all. No way.

What I HAVE read about LSD usage is that one of the uses of it is that it is used in the mind controls programs for years and even decades. So it's been used for many 'reasons'.

He also in later years recovered from alcoholism through 12 step program. He died from what started as leukemia and later malignant melanoma, while living a life of horror in his last days through the use of chemo and radiation. It was just incredibly horrible. I was there to witness part of it.

I might add that he served in the Navy in the 60s, prior to his hippie stage. I have many times wondered where that damned cancer came from. It was violent and massive. Oh, and he didn't smoke any cigarettes.

LSD as an idea for use in alcoholism is, to me, absolutely an insane idea. I'll have to go back up and read the entire article, when I get a minute.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


I am sorry about the loss of your brother. Many sailors were exposed to toxins aboard ship. Even now they have illnesses that stand out amount the veteran community.

Using LSD for treatment is conducted under controlled circumstances and the direction of an psychiatrist. It isn't just dropping hits on your own.

The book Acid dreams recounts a lot if the history which you touch upon. This includes the heavy research conducted by the CIA.
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I am pretty sure that LSD is not addictive. I have used it quite often as of late. I have never suffered from withdrawls ... However, I have suffered sleep deprivation! Lol. I never want it to end, so I stay awake as long as I can. I have also noticed that I can drink like a fish while on it and not really feel any effects of the alcohol.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36326614


Oh,yeah,you're going to be fine. I see a long and productive life ahead for you.
 Quoting: troungshixam


Yup! 'cuz I said I use it ALL the time, didn't I? No, in fact, it rarely comes around in my area. I usually get to do it once a year if I am lucky. Your snooty remark would have, maybe, held some weight if I had said that I sit in my basement and drop acid ALL THE TIME mmmaaaann! Yeah! Whhooo! Alas, that is not what I said. You just make yourself out to look like a little bitch. I bet saying that made you feel so much better about yourself huh? That's okay. If that's how you gotta act to help get you through your day, it's whatever. If you have never tried acid, you are missing out on a very, very awesome experience.
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Gotta get me some of that. Then my life too will be awesome and meaningful.
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Alcoholism is a broad term for problems with alcohol, and is generally used to mean compulsive and uncontrolled consumption of alcoholic beverages, usually to the detriment of the drinker's health, personal relationships, and social standing. It is medically considered a disease, specifically an addictive illness. In psychiatry several other terms are used, specifically "alcohol abuse" and "alcohol dependence," which have slightly different definitions.
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bill w was introduced to LSD by aldous huxley , nelson rockefeller was good friends with huxley.

If a rockefeller thinks something is "good" for you to take. I ain't touching it
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I was told Huxley was a chemist at the University of Illinois in the 60s. He was purportededededed (trails) to have made some very good shit. Kind of like psychedelic trips to the center of your mind.

Very enjoyable but I never understood why anyone ever thought it had any intrinsic benefits. Everyone I knew stopped when they started to believe they were losing their minds. And some of them did.
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An analysis of old studies suggests LSD may have a role to play in treating alcoholism.

The powerful hallucinogen LSD (lysergic acid diethylamide) has potential as a treatment for alcoholism, according to a retrospective analysis of studies published in the late 1960s and early 1970s.
some more info in the blog...
Does anybody have experience with LSD ?


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I can imagine that it can. And then leave you with another problem or two.
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LSD would be commonly perscribed for a variety of purposes today if West Point alcoholic Tim Leary had not stolen it from Sandoz to use for his wife swapping parties in the suburbs.
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Leary was working for the MKultra scumbags.


LSD was intended for mind control.
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My mom met someone who did LSD in the past and suffered a lifetime of nightmarish flashbacks. He could barely hold a job as a cab driver.

 Quoting: USDAlady


Unfortunately, many serious conditions are blamed incorrectly on prior drug use, which often delays diagnosis.

[link to www.popsci.com]
I don't think there's any question that HPPD is a genuine clinical phenomenon," says Charles Grob, a professor of psychiatry at UCLA's medical school who does research with hallucinogens.

However, how many people are truly affected remains unknown. In a 2002 review of the scientific literature on HPPD over the last 50 years, psychiatrist John Halpern and his co-authors found most studies provided too little information to estimate the prevalence "even crudely" of HPPD in the population. "It is often unclear whether symptoms occurred exclusively following hallucinogen intoxication," they write. "It is also difficult to rule out other medical or psychiatric conditions that might cause 'flashbacks', including current intoxication with another drug, neurological conditions, current psychotic or affective disorders, malingering, hypochondriasis, or even other anxiety disorders such as posttraumatic stress disorder (PTSD)."


a large number of people are drawn to drug use as an effort to self medicate conditions they are developing or are already exhibiting. If you find yourself using any substance frequently, one of the first questions you should ask yourself is "why?"

Drug use is all to often treated as the core problem, when it is only a symptom.
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Back in the late 60's my buddies dad was a heavy binge drinker (a very serious alcoholic). He'd drank for several days with little to no food...long story short...Yes he (my buddy) slipped his dad Blotter-Acid (LSD on a piece of paper into his fathers beer. His dad had no knowledge of the spike. He quit drinking in about an hour...had a little trip. After he came down he stopped drinking started back to church until his next drunk 3-4 month. If you take a strong enough LSD hit it will or can alter the way you perceive things. Research Alcoholism while your high it may help and look at your life and Like Woo! I am a drunken alcoholic.. If you sit around and enjoy your LSD high it won't do shit. If you have never taken it before you should be in a good frame of mind and stay away from straight people or you may freak out (have a bummer). Enjoy what LSD is and what it will do to you and try not to freak-out. A good acid- mind altering-trip lasts for maybe 8 hour or so. All of my friends that started off drinking then went to drugs LSD stop dropping drugs and still alcoholics today.
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I've had my spiritual awakenings without the use of drugs. Just ask God who he is, and he will respond quickly or slowly...

LSD is just another counterfeit for the real thing.
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then you are not speaking from experience and the op asked about treating alcoholism.
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Again, LSD is a counterfeit for the real thing.
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I spent several years working with people who used acid back in the day. Many of them still having flashbacks and unable to work or function in what we laughingly call 'reality'.

Just my 2 cents worth.
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bill w was introduced to LSD by aldous huxley , nelson rockefeller was good friends with huxley.

If a rockefeller thinks something is "good" for you to take. I ain't touching it
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3728425


I was told Huxley was a chemist at the University of Illinois in the 60s. He was purportededededed (trails) to have made some very good shit. Kind of like psychedelic trips to the center of your mind.

Very enjoyable but I never understood why anyone ever thought it had any intrinsic benefits. Everyone I knew stopped when they started to believe they were losing their minds. And some of them did.
 Quoting: Emergence Man

The British sent Aldous Huxley to the United States as the case officer for an operation to help prepare the United States for the mass dissemination of drugs.
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My mom met someone who did LSD in the past and suffered a lifetime of nightmarish flashbacks. He could barely hold a job as a cab driver.

Anything that alters your brain chemistry to make you drunk or high is killing brain cells to do so. Another study in the news on this just last week.

Prayers for anyone suffering addiction. Please get help and know you are loved.
 Quoting: USDAlady


I'm sorry but that just isn't true. I have and also know people who have tripped several times and never once had a flashback. You would still have to have some of the chemical in your brain to have a flashback.

What your mom's friend has is a mental problem but is isn't from tripping
 Quoting: Founders Fan


This
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It's amazing how small minded some of you are.
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It's more amazing how addicted some of you are.
How drunk minded you are.

Stay sober and win, get drunk and lose.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Says the person who bases their entire life on the ultimate form of mind control created by man.
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I wanna hear...THIS STORY!!!
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LSD cured my crohns disease and opiate addiction.

Lsd will come to you if you need it. It works that way.

Love and respect to all the disbelievers - you will need it.
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Again, LSD is a counterfeit for the real thing.
 Quoting: Ms. Superduper


Its just a vasoconstrictive drug that works well on some types of migraines. Hippies think it makes them see things.peace
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It's amazing how small minded some of you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54511854


It's more amazing how addicted some of you are.
How drunk minded you are.

Stay sober and win, get drunk and lose.
 Quoting: -GLP-Christian-


Says the person who bases their entire life on the ultimate form of mind control created by man.
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Zing!





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