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BREAKING: Russia now accusing "Ukrainian radicals" of invading its Belgorod region near Ukraine border

 
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Russia now accusing "Ukrainian radicals" of invading its Belgorod region near Ukraine border - Interfax

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The governor of Russia's Belgorod region said on Sunday armed groups had tried to cut off a road leading to Ukraine, Interfax news agency reported.

"Armed men are roaming the area ... There was an attempt to close off the road from Moscow to Crimea," Yevgeny Savchenko was quoted as saying about events on Saturday. "This is really troubling."

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Those Basturds.!! scream
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All this looks bad.
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This is going to escalate
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No it's not going to escalate.
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This is going to escalate
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March 4 comes. Ariel Sharon dies then the world goes nuts!
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UH OH THIS IS IT!!!!!!!!

THERMONUKLAR MIRVS ARE IN THE AIR!!!!
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If you remember Hitler justified invading Poland after he stated Polish soldiers crossed into Germany and attacked and killed the workers of a German radio station. It was later found out that this was a fabricated sham and that the bodies were planted there.
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Isn't this from Hitler's 1939 playbook? Google "Gleiwitz incident." Basically, German troops dressed as Poles attacked a German radio station. This was used to help justify the invasion of Poland.

This feels a lot like that. False flag, much?
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If you remember Hitler justified invading Poland after he stated Polish soldiers crossed into Germany and attacked and killed the workers of a German radio station. It was later found out that this was a fabricated sham and that the bodies were planted there.
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Beat me to the punch.
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"Armed men are roaming the area ... There was an attempt to close off the road from Moscow to Crimea," Yevgeny Savchenko was quoted as saying about events on Saturday. "This is really troubling."

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I think those "armed men" are a little bit out of their league. They must have balls of steel, those armed men, ha ha.

God will protect them- they are fighting for a new free trade deal between Ukraine and EU. God will help them and protect them. God loves free trade deals and God loves free flow of goods with lots of profits for EU. God Bless.

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If you remember Hitler justified invading Poland after he stated Polish soldiers crossed into Germany and attacked and killed the workers of a German radio station. It was later found out that this was a fabricated sham and that the bodies were planted there.
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Beat me to the punch.
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Great minds think alike! Thanks for posting the name of the operation though...it had slipped my mind.
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"Armed men are roaming the area ... There was an attempt to close off the road from Moscow to Crimea," Yevgeny Savchenko was quoted as saying about events on Saturday. "This is really troubling."

*******

I think those "armed men" are a little bit out of their league. They must have balls of steel, those armed men, ha ha.

God will protect them- they are fighting for a new free trade deal between Ukraine and EU. God will help them and protect them. God loves free trade deals and God loves free flow of goods with lots of profits for EU. God Bless.

Selah
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Those "armed men" are Russian. There are 150,000 of them, to be exact. We've already seen Russian troops in Crimea taking off all identifying insignia and posing as Crimean self-defense units. Why wouldn't they pose as Ukrainian nationalists? You don't mobilize 150,000 men if you don't intend to use them.
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This is going to escalate
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March 4 comes. Ariel Sharon dies then the world goes nuts!
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Nostra dumb ass
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Nothing will happen. The current Ukrainian government is severing ties with Russia. But there is a very important Russian naval base in Crimea (Ukraine allows Russia to operate it there), in order to make sure that naval base continues under Russian command, Russia is (looking like it's) attempting to annex Crimea - so why the weird stuff with unidentifiable soldiers? Well, they are there to provoke the Ukrainian military into a response, the trick is that if the Ukrainian military engages them, then Russia can say that this is proof of the outbreak of civil war - we all know that's bullshit, but if you're an Eastern European country, you're not going to argue with a country that is your only source of oil, and will not hesitiate to invade you.

This is where Russia sends in a massive invasion force to secure Crimea under the excuse "we're protecting Russian citizens in a civil war", it's the same excuse Russia has used at least twice already to annex territories, and it's a similar excuse to the one used by Hitler to annex Czechslovakia in 1938.

Now here's the interesting part: In 1994, the Budapest Memorandum was signed by Russia, Ukraine, UK and USA. It states that if Ukraine gives up it's nuclear weapons, in return UK and USA and Russia aren't allowed to annex Ukraine - if one of the nations breaks the agreement, the Budapest Memorandum (legally?) obligates the others to defend Ukraine. So, in accordance with the memorandum, if Russia annexes Crimea, the Budapest Memorandum obligates us to go to war with Russia.

IMO, if Crimea is annexed by Russia, the west won't come to defend Ukraine against Russia, and in all honesty it was very stupid for Ukraine to agree to the Budapest Memorandum.
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"Armed men are roaming the area ... There was an attempt to close off the road from Moscow to Crimea," Yevgeny Savchenko was quoted as saying about events on Saturday. "This is really troubling."

*******

I think those "armed men" are a little bit out of their league. They must have balls of steel, those armed men, ha ha.

God will protect them- they are fighting for a new free trade deal between Ukraine and EU. God will help them and protect them. God loves free trade deals and God loves free flow of goods with lots of profits for EU. God Bless.

Selah
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Those "armed men" are Russian. There are 150,000 of them, to be exact. We've already seen Russian troops in Crimea taking off all identifying insignia and posing as Crimean self-defense units. Why wouldn't they pose as Ukrainian nationalists? You don't mobilize 150,000 men if you don't intend to use them.
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No. Your facts are all screwed up. These are a few of the renegade Ukrainian bandits, trying to close off a pass between Moscow and the Crimean peninsula.

Couple of Ukrainian cowboys, pretending like they are all tough and stuff - showing the Russians who is boss now.

ha.

They might succeed (not).
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This is going to escalate
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March 4 comes. Ariel Sharon dies then the world goes nuts!
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Corrected: Jewish led word gone mad.
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Nothing will happen. The current Ukrainian government is severing ties with Russia. But there is a very important Russian naval base in Crimea (Ukraine allows Russia to operate it there), in order to make sure that naval base continues under Russian command, Russia is (looking like it's) attempting to annex Crimea - so why the weird stuff with unidentifiable soldiers? Well, they are there to provoke the Ukrainian military into a response, the trick is that if the Ukrainian military engages them, then Russia can say that this is proof of the outbreak of civil war - we all know that's bullshit, but if you're an Eastern European country, you're not going to argue with a country that is your only source of oil, and will not hesitiate to invade you.

This is where Russia sends in a massive invasion force to secure Crimea under the excuse "we're protecting Russian citizens in a civil war", it's the same excuse Russia has used at least twice already to annex territories, and it's a similar excuse to the one used by Hitler to annex Czechslovakia in 1938.

Now here's the interesting part: In 1994, the Budapest Memorandum was signed by Russia, Ukraine, UK and USA. It states that if Ukraine gives up it's nuclear weapons, in return UK and USA and Russia aren't allowed to annex Ukraine - if one of the nations breaks the agreement, the Budapest Memorandum (legally?) obligates the others to defend Ukraine. So, in accordance with the memorandum, if Russia annexes Crimea, the Budapest Memorandum obligates us to go to war with Russia.

IMO, if Crimea is annexed by Russia, the west won't come to defend Ukraine against Russia, and in all honesty it was very stupid for Ukraine to agree to the Budapest Memorandum.
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This would make sense, except for the fact that the Russians were asked to come in and protect the Crimeans from the dumb ass stooges and trouble makers that are now taking control in Kiev.
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the nukes weren't "Ukrainian" they were "Soviet". I haven't read that Budapest agreement therefore can't comment it. If Ukraine pretends to become nuclear power now, it is too dangerous. Imagine someone gives the govt in Kiev nukes. WHom they will shoot at? At Moscow bases most likely, there isn't any other target around. Good way to start WW3 dont you think so? Russia will have all possible excuse to retaliate with thousands of nukes, not only to West Ukraine but also to West Europe and USA. Do we want THAT?
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You guys thought I was kidding when I said this

Thread: Mass Knifing China, Tensions Between US and Russia. Unmarked Men Ukraine? Radicals/Extremists will be blamed for the collapse of civilisation.

So you see, armed men which CNN reports as Russians are now being referred to as radicals, extremists or terrorists by Russia. Nobody knows who these men are......Do you now understand what is going on? Any trigger now and the US or Russia can blame each other and start a conflict, only for it to be later said that these masked unidentified men were rogue, radicals and extremists which started WW3 between 2 superpowers. Again I say......Terrorists, extremists and radicals will be blamed for the collapse of civilization.

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the nukes weren't "Ukrainian" they were "Soviet". I haven't read that Budapest agreement therefore can't comment it. If Ukraine pretends to become nuclear power now, it is too dangerous. Imagine someone gives the govt in Kiev nukes. WHom they will shoot at? At Moscow bases most likely, there isn't any other target around. Good way to start WW3 dont you think so? Russia will have all possible excuse to retaliate with thousands of nukes, not only to West Ukraine but also to West Europe and USA. Do we want THAT?
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No - the newly installed stooges in Kiev have just made a statement today saying they are only six to nine months away from making a nuclear bomb. Believe me, they would love to have one, but Russia wisely took all their toys away.

Russia did, however, grant the Ukraine half of the Soviet Baltic Sea fleet. They can't make much trouble with that. It would be interesting to see them try.
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Soviet Black Sea fleet (my bad)
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Hitler said Poles invaded the border region, so he had to attack Poland in 1939. It turned out the invading Poles were German agent provocateurs.
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Hitler said Poles invaded the border region, so he had to attack Poland in 1939. It turned out the invading Poles were German agent provocateurs.
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This.
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Excuse me if I'm wrong , but . doesn't invading a countries space [ like Russia did ] deserve a retaliation ? So how can Russia say the Ukraine is out of line ? WAR - IT SUCKS !!!!!
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Hitler said Poles invaded the border region, so he had to attack Poland in 1939. It turned out the invading Poles were German agent provocateurs.
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This.
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The same thing will happen here only that this tune around, extremists, radicals or terrorists will be blamed for a civilization ending event.

Thread: Mass Knifing China, Tensions Between US and Russia. Unmarked Men Ukraine? Radicals/Extremists will be blamed for the collapse of civilisation.

You will also see this face of extremism in various forms across the globe staging terrorist attacks and with the current tensions between the the US ans Russia, it will be used to trigger an event and we will be told initially that these were triggered by rogue governments only later be told that these were actually a lone act of terrorism and extremism by extremists and radicals and maybe in connection with rogue governments.
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Hitler said Poles invaded the border region, so he had to attack Poland in 1939. It turned out the invading Poles were German agent provocateurs.
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Point taken.

However, I don't see Russian forces attacking anyone. The Russians are sending in peacekeeping troops that are not attacking anyone but defending the Crimeans. The Crimeans have asked for the Russian protection.

Did the Poles ask for German troops to come into their country in 1939?

I fear that we have anonymous posters here on GLP itching for war without cause. Well, I would love to give you a parachute and a rifle, tough guy, but you would never take it. Not in a million years.





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