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Harvard Research Finds Link Between Fluoridated Water, ADHD & Mental Disorders

 
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Leading chemical experts are calling for a radical overhaul of chemical regulation to protect children from everyday toxins that may be causing a global ''silent epidemic'' of brain development disorders such as autism, dyslexia and attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder.
The list also controversially includes fluoride, a mineral found in water, plants and toothpaste.
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In 2006, we did a systematic review and identified five industrial chemicals as developmental neurotoxicants: lead, methylmercury, polychlorinated biphenyls, arsenic, and toluene. Since 2006, epidemiological studies have documented six additional developmental neurotoxicants—manganese, fluoride, chlorpyrifos, dichlorodiphenyltrichloroethane, tetrachloroethylene, and the polybrominated diphenyl ethers.
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And still... fluoride is put into water... :(
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things. But if in water, one keeps overdosing. And overdosing can't be good, so I am not surprised.
Its the same with that Omega3. Our body needs it, but in a "normal" amount. Since Omega3 was promoted and told how beneficial it is, lots of people jumped on Omega3 capsules, bought enriched products etc... and recently science found that omega3 increases the risk for prostate cancer.
Just another example of overdosing... And I am convinced there is more

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It probably won't be halted :( One of the studies I mentioned above was 2006 and linked fluoride as culprit. But there was no official reaction on it whatsoever
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Not sure about other mental disorders but adhd is a made up disorder based on an evolutionary trait most people share. In the past if people became too obsessed with a task or object they became easy pray for predators laying in the background. So it became beneficial for people to have a lose attention span and pay more attention to the world around them and thus watching out for pray. Yes medicine can suppress this trait but why suppress what evolution has designed? My point is fluoride is bad for you, but it does not cause a made up disorder.
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Not sure about other mental disorders but adhd is a made up disorder based on an evolutionary trait most people share. In the past if people became too obsessed with a task or object they became easy pray for predators laying in the background. So it became beneficial for people to have a lose attention span and pay more attention to the world around them and thus watching out for pray. Yes medicine can suppress this trait but why suppress what evolution has designed? My point is fluoride is bad for you, but it does not cause a made up disorder.
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I don't think "mental disorders" or ADHD are a entirely pedagocic problem. It is more of a neurological disorder, the way things are transmitted and resolved within the brain. Therefore it only seems logical that a disturbance within the chemical "household" of the body has a effect on the transmission of impulses.

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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things. But if in water, one keeps overdosing. And overdosing can't be good, so I am not surprised.
Its the same with that Omega3. Our body needs it, but in a "normal" amount. Since Omega3 was promoted and told how beneficial it is, lots of people jumped on Omega3 capsules, bought enriched products etc... and recently science found that omega3 increases the risk for prostate cancer.
Just another example of overdosing... And I am convinced there is more
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"We do need a certain amount of fluoride"
You realize how asinine that sounds?
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things. But if in water, one keeps overdosing. And overdosing can't be good, so I am not surprised.
Its the same with that Omega3. Our body needs it, but in a "normal" amount. Since Omega3 was promoted and told how beneficial it is, lots of people jumped on Omega3 capsules, bought enriched products etc... and recently science found that omega3 increases the risk for prostate cancer.
Just another example of overdosing... And I am convinced there is more
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"We do need a certain amount of fluoride"
You realize how asinine that sounds?

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Maybe it does to you, but then again, I am not a native english speaker and could see nothing wrong with phrasing it this way.

Fact is, our body needs fluorine for bone growth for example. But with a normal nutrition we take up enough of it, which makes adding to water unbeneficial. We take up more than our body uses.
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Thank you for the pin hf
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things. But if in water, one keeps overdosing. And overdosing can't be good, so I am not surprised.
Its the same with that Omega3. Our body needs it, but in a "normal" amount. Since Omega3 was promoted and told how beneficial it is, lots of people jumped on Omega3 capsules, bought enriched products etc... and recently science found that omega3 increases the risk for prostate cancer.
Just another example of overdosing... And I am convinced there is more
 Quoting: °Lucy°


No we don't need a certain amount of fluoride. There has been no study or evidence ever presented to back that up. All they found was that when you are exposed to fluoride it fixes in the teeth. There was a correlation in a couple of places where there was high natural fluoride and low cavities, there are also places with no fluoride with low cavities, but they ignored that. Suddenly fluoride went from being classed as a neurotoxin to being, "vital for healthy teeth" overnight.

Fluoride was a waste chemical produced as a by product by the defense industry and after the war they were going to have to pay millions to dispose of it, instead they paid off a few doctors and bam, problem solved. What humans need to prevent and treat, yes treat cavities is biotin. If you have cavities and the nerve of the tooth is still alive take biotin. It is half calcium and half raw tooth matter. Your cavities will disappear, don't take my word for it, go look around the Internet. Lots of people have used it and it works. I work with a guy that had twelve cavities and after I suggested it he used it for six months and now has none whatsoever, totally healthy teeth.
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things. But if in water, one keeps overdosing. And overdosing can't be good, so I am not surprised.
Its the same with that Omega3. Our body needs it, but in a "normal" amount. Since Omega3 was promoted and told how beneficial it is, lots of people jumped on Omega3 capsules, bought enriched products etc... and recently science found that omega3 increases the risk for prostate cancer.
Just another example of overdosing... And I am convinced there is more
 Quoting: °Lucy°


"We do need a certain amount of fluoride"
You realize how asinine that sounds?

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Maybe it does to you, but then again, I am not a native english speaker and could see nothing wrong with phrasing it this way.

Fact is, our body needs fluorine for bone growth for example. But with a normal nutrition we take up enough of it, which makes adding to water unbeneficial. We take up more than our body uses.
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yeahsure Do you have any idea what Fluoride IS? I think that you're a little misinformed. Fluoride is a corrosive acid captured in the air pollution control devices of the phosphate fertilizer industry. Fluoride is captured in air pollution control devices because fluoride gases are hazardous air pollutants that cause significant environmental harm. Certainly not beneficial to the body in any way, shape or form. Quite the opposite, actually.
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things.
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Then why hasn't anyone ever been diagnosed as having a fluoride deficiency in the entire world?
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Fluoride is a biochemical reagent so maybe it is not necessarily needed as I thought it might. I am not so "firm" with the subject, so I am sorry if I am mistaken there. hf
I only know it can be used in treating certain conditions.

it has been added to water to prevent tooth decay, but why??
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things.
 Quoting: °Lucy°

Then why hasn't anyone ever been diagnosed as having a fluoride deficiency in the entire world?
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Good question, but see my post just above hf I expect if needed then in only very small quantity which would be easily consumed.
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things. But if in water, one keeps overdosing. And overdosing can't be good, so I am not surprised.
Its the same with that Omega3. Our body needs it, but in a "normal" amount. Since Omega3 was promoted and told how beneficial it is, lots of people jumped on Omega3 capsules, bought enriched products etc... and recently science found that omega3 increases the risk for prostate cancer.
Just another example of overdosing... And I am convinced there is more
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"We do need a certain amount of fluoride"
You realize how asinine that sounds?

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Kinda like this:

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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things. But if in water, one keeps overdosing. And overdosing can't be good, so I am not surprised.
Its the same with that Omega3. Our body needs it, but in a "normal" amount. Since Omega3 was promoted and told how beneficial it is, lots of people jumped on Omega3 capsules, bought enriched products etc... and recently science found that omega3 increases the risk for prostate cancer.
Just another example of overdosing... And I am convinced there is more
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"We do need a certain amount of fluoride"
You realize how asinine that sounds?

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Kinda like this:


 Quoting: No More Lies


Yeah, well..lol...
As I said above, I have not really checked into that "need" hf But we do take up fluoride in lots of things, so overdosing it by taking additional fluoride is damaging.

Per a 2013 study, it was found that consumption of one litre of tea a day, can potentially supply the daily recommended intake of 4 mg per day. Some lower quality brands can supply up to a 120 percent of this amount. Fasting can increase this to 150 percent. The study indicates that tea drinking communities are at an increased risk of fluorosis, in the case where water fluoridation is in effect.
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The mechanism of toxicity involves the combination of the fluoride anion with the calcium ions in the blood to form insoluble calcium fluoride, resulting in hypocalcemia; calcium is indispensable for the function of the nervous system, and the condition can be fatal.
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I'd be hesitant to blindly accept these results. I'm totally against Fluoride in water as well but this study might not deliver the proof needed. First it's a meta-analysis of 27-studies. Meaning these researchers complied data from other studies, not by building their database themselves through years of their own research. If they vetted the sources properly, great..but they must take their source data as fact...ie they must have confidence the source data has no "bias or manipulation of data". Herein lies the problem. They used 27 Chinese studies as sources....and let me tell you, researchers don't have confidence in Chinese studies. Sorry, accuse me of racism or whatever. But, the pressure some Chinese researchers have on having 'success" is extreme, and unfortunately, "extreme measures" are too often taken to achieve success.
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Studies have been around for a while and toxicity is known. So, why do they keep adding fluoride to water and other things?? Just to keep BigPharm happy?
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I'd be hesitant to blindly accept these results. I'm totally against Fluoride in water as well but this study might not deliver the proof needed. First it's a meta-analysis of 27-studies. Meaning these researchers complied data from other studies, not by building their database themselves through years of their own research. If they vetted the sources properly, great..but they must take their source data as fact...ie they must have confidence the source data has no "bias or manipulation of data". Herein lies the problem. They used 27 Chinese studies as sources....and let me tell you, researchers don't have confidence in Chinese studies. Sorry, accuse me of racism or whatever. But, the pressure some Chinese researchers have on having 'success" is extreme, and unfortunately, "extreme measures" are too often taken to achieve success.
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Are there any efforts or longterm studies still ongoing? I could imagine a new study will pick up, but it would take years again for results
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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the toothpaste story is bullshit too. In areas of the Southwest fluorosis is a problem due to the contamination of the ground water. Animals die prematurely because fluoride makes teeth brittle.
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Studies have been around for a while and toxicity is known. So, why do they keep adding fluoride to water and other things?? Just to keep BigPharm happy?
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neurotoxin. Reduces ability to think.
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
 Quoting: Little bird


We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things. But if in water, one keeps overdosing. And overdosing can't be good, so I am not surprised.
Its the same with that Omega3. Our body needs it, but in a "normal" amount. Since Omega3 was promoted and told how beneficial it is, lots of people jumped on Omega3 capsules, bought enriched products etc... and recently science found that omega3 increases the risk for prostate cancer.
Just another example of overdosing... And I am convinced there is more
 Quoting: °Lucy°


The body actually does NOT need fluoride in any amount, that is a huge misconception. It is not an essential nutrient, vitamin, mineral or element. Nothing adverse occurs in the body from a "lack of fluoride". Saying that the body needs it in some form is an assumption from the 1950's that has since been disproven several times.

Related sources:

Although I do not personally trust the FDA or CDC on all matters, they ALSO have upheld that fluoride is not necessary AT ALL.

“Fluoride is not essential for human growth and development.”
SOURCE: European Commission. (2011).

“[F]luoride is no longer considered an essential factor for human growth and development.”
SOURCE: National Research Council (1993).

“Nowhere in the report is it stated that fluoride is an essential nutrient. If any speaker or panel member at the September 23rd workshop referred to fluoride as such, they misspoke. As was stated in Recommended Dietary Allowances 10th Edition, which we published in 1989: “These contradictory results do not justify a classification of fluorine as an essential element, according to accepted standards.”
SOURCE: National Academy of Sciences. (1989).

“In summary, FDA does not list fluorine as an essential nutrient.”
SOURCE: Food & Drug Administration, October 1990.

“The United States Public Health Service does not say that sodium fluoride is an essential mineral nutrient.”
SOURCE: U.S. Public Health Service, May 10, 1966.

“Sodium fluoride used for therapeutic effect would be a drug, not a mineral nutrient. Fluoride has not been determined essential to human health. A minimum daily requirement for sodium fluoride has not been established.”
SOURCE: Food & Drug Administration, August 15, 1963.
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
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We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things. But if in water, one keeps overdosing. And overdosing can't be good, so I am not surprised.
Its the same with that Omega3. Our body needs it, but in a "normal" amount. Since Omega3 was promoted and told how beneficial it is, lots of people jumped on Omega3 capsules, bought enriched products etc... and recently science found that omega3 increases the risk for prostate cancer.
Just another example of overdosing... And I am convinced there is more
 Quoting: °Lucy°


The body actually does NOT need fluoride in any amount, that is a huge misconception. It is not an essential nutrient, vitamin, mineral or element. Nothing adverse occurs in the body from a "lack of fluoride". Saying that the body needs it in some form is an assumption from the 1950's that has since been disproven several times.

Related sources:

Although I do not personally trust the FDA or CDC on all matters, they ALSO have upheld that fluoride is not necessary AT ALL.

“Fluoride is not essential for human growth and development.”
SOURCE: European Commission. (2011).

“[F]luoride is no longer considered an essential factor for human growth and development.”
SOURCE: National Research Council (1993).

“Nowhere in the report is it stated that fluoride is an essential nutrient. If any speaker or panel member at the September 23rd workshop referred to fluoride as such, they misspoke. As was stated in Recommended Dietary Allowances 10th Edition, which we published in 1989: “These contradictory results do not justify a classification of fluorine as an essential element, according to accepted standards.”
SOURCE: National Academy of Sciences. (1989).

“In summary, FDA does not list fluorine as an essential nutrient.”
SOURCE: Food & Drug Administration, October 1990.

“The United States Public Health Service does not say that sodium fluoride is an essential mineral nutrient.”
SOURCE: U.S. Public Health Service, May 10, 1966.

“Sodium fluoride used for therapeutic effect would be a drug, not a mineral nutrient. Fluoride has not been determined essential to human health. A minimum daily requirement for sodium fluoride has not been established.”
SOURCE: Food & Drug Administration, August 15, 1963.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55205022


Thanks for posting hf As I said, I have never looked into a actual "need". So, many thanks again :)

Here we get fluoride tablets for babies from the doctor. But I have never proceeded giving them as I felt no need
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It will be interesting to see if this is finally halted. I can understand toothpaste, but hell no the water.
 Quoting: Little bird


We do need a certain amount of fluoride, as our body does need other things. But if in water, one keeps overdosing. And overdosing can't be good, so I am not surprised.
Its the same with that Omega3. Our body needs it, but in a "normal" amount. Since Omega3 was promoted and told how beneficial it is, lots of people jumped on Omega3 capsules, bought enriched products etc... and recently science found that omega3 increases the risk for prostate cancer.
Just another example of overdosing... And I am convinced there is more
 Quoting: °Lucy°


The body actually does NOT need fluoride in any amount, that is a huge misconception. It is not an essential nutrient, vitamin, mineral or element. Nothing adverse occurs in the body from a "lack of fluoride". Saying that the body needs it in some form is an assumption from the 1950's that has since been disproven several times.

Related sources:

Although I do not personally trust the FDA or CDC on all matters, they ALSO have upheld that fluoride is not necessary AT ALL.

“Fluoride is not essential for human growth and development.”
SOURCE: European Commission. (2011).

“[F]luoride is no longer considered an essential factor for human growth and development.”
SOURCE: National Research Council (1993).

“Nowhere in the report is it stated that fluoride is an essential nutrient. If any speaker or panel member at the September 23rd workshop referred to fluoride as such, they misspoke. As was stated in Recommended Dietary Allowances 10th Edition, which we published in 1989: “These contradictory results do not justify a classification of fluorine as an essential element, according to accepted standards.”
SOURCE: National Academy of Sciences. (1989).

“In summary, FDA does not list fluorine as an essential nutrient.”
SOURCE: Food & Drug Administration, October 1990.

“The United States Public Health Service does not say that sodium fluoride is an essential mineral nutrient.”
SOURCE: U.S. Public Health Service, May 10, 1966.

“Sodium fluoride used for therapeutic effect would be a drug, not a mineral nutrient. Fluoride has not been determined essential to human health. A minimum daily requirement for sodium fluoride has not been established.”
SOURCE: Food & Drug Administration, August 15, 1963.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55205022


Thanks for posting hf As I said, I have never looked into a actual "need". So, many thanks again :)

Here we get fluoride tablets for babies from the doctor. But I have never proceeded giving them as I felt no need
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You're very welcome! cheers
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I'd be hesitant to blindly accept these results. I'm totally against Fluoride in water as well but this study might not deliver the proof needed. First it's a meta-analysis of 27-studies. Meaning these researchers complied data from other studies, not by building their database themselves through years of their own research. If they vetted the sources properly, great..but they must take their source data as fact...ie they must have confidence the source data has no "bias or manipulation of data". Herein lies the problem. They used 27 Chinese studies as sources....and let me tell you, researchers don't have confidence in Chinese studies. Sorry, accuse me of racism or whatever. But, the pressure some Chinese researchers have on having 'success" is extreme, and unfortunately, "extreme measures" are too often taken to achieve success.
 Quoting: Salty 38420542


Are there any efforts or longterm studies still ongoing? I could imagine a new study will pick up, but it would take years again for results
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Yes, there is a fabulous long term study, it's being
done on the American people, and it's working out great
for the medical industry. The American people are dumber han ever, sicker than ever, it's been an all around success.
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i remember 4th grade..here this a new tooth decay product..brush yer teeth with the bubblegum flovor and spit it out...

then every year a special dark green van would test our hearing..fucing worse than nazi mind control freeks!
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Yes we must also expose the doctors as well. They are the ones saying that these products are safe to use. Look at this thread and see the video that is there. It exposes doctors really well Thread: MEDICAL DOCTORS EXPOSED the video they don't want you to see
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Nobody brings it up, but the propaganda piece most responsible for bringing Americans on board for fluoride was the phoney anti-war movie, Dr. Strangelove - the psyops of all psyops. Bring up fluoride as a toxin, and for a long time you'd be ridiculed about "bodily juices", and the "commie conspiracy", all taken from Dr. Strangelove.
If you questioned the value of fluoride you were associated with "General Jack D. Ripper", the "crazy" paranoid from Dr. Strangelove. And we've been slurping up fluoride ever since. Thank you, Stanley Kubrik.
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03/07/2014 03:27 PM
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Re: Harvard Research Finds Link Between Fluoridated Water, ADHD & Mental Disorders
Lets add vaccines to the mix. The first shot is given to the babies hours within birth. Vaccines were never meant to prevent disease, they were meant to spread it and weaken the ammune system. I believe vaccines are directly related to autism.

Once you learn that we have all been indoctrinated by what I call the "controllers" of the world, you also learn that much of what we have learned is totally false. The evil controllers have their agenda and what they have done to the people is nothing but pure evil.





GLP