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Re: Minimum Wage -- Working People of America------UNITE! ACT!

 
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THIS THREAD IS FOR REAL PEOPLE of ALL AGES DOING REAL PHYSICAL WORK FOR LOW WAGES NOT YOU BIG-ASSED POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC THEORISTS SITTING AROUND SHOOTING EVERYTHING AND EVERYONE DOWN FROM THE COMFORT OF YOUR ANONYMOUS COMPUTERS. IF YOU WANT TO TALK NASTY, AT LEAST GET A NAME, GET A LIFE. Don't make uncivil comments using an AC!

The Time has come again. If they won't raise our minimum wage federally, we can still ACT. And the sooner we act, the sooner they will have to raise our minimum wage.

We can organize, but not necessarily in the same old way. We can organize, whether we work in states and companies that allow unions or not. Why? Because nowadays we have the INTERNET. ha ha -- NOTHING CAN HOLD THE AMERICAN WORKER DOWN! Never has been able to, never will be able to!

AMERICAN WORKERS, START WHEREVER YOU ARE!

IF YOU ARE UNEMPLOYED: take any job that will hire you, and if they won't give you a decent wage, QUIT! Leave them in the lurch! Stop letting them take advantage of you by paying you a wage that is too low.

Do what is right, and KNOW that God is leading you UPWARD ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ to a Better Life.

NO NEED to fume about President Obama or about what Congress is or is not doing...Just ACT yourself, in your own position, however high or low.

IF YOU ARE EMPLOYED: Speak the TRUTH on your job. ASK politely your boss and your boss's boss for what you need and what you want. Hang in there, do a good day's work, communicate truthfully and with respect with everyone around you on the job. Hang in there, but if they don't treat you nice, stay as long as you have to, then go wherever you can earn RESPECT and a BETTER WAGE.

AMERICAN WORKERS, we are blessed in that we can still travel anywhere we want to IN or OUT of AMERICA.

No need to be ugly. Protest. Protest with PEACE and CLARITY.

America is still one of the best places in the world to live and work. We still have ingenuity and grit.

IF YOU ARE EMPLOYED: Be proactive on your job. Communicate clearly and politely and truthfully with your coworkers and your customers and your bosses (TALL ORDER, I know). But that is life, that is work. Learn something new every day from the bosses, the customers, the coworkers. If you can do all this, NOTHING CAN REALLY KEEP YOU DOWN. Give a little, invest in your future.abduct

Even if you can't afford to go to school, if you can do all this, you are giving yourself an on-the-job education, and you are a VALUABLE WORKER. So ask and ask again for that raise you need. If your employer cannot value you as such, QUIT! YOU ARE A VALUABLE WORKER DESERVING OF A RAISE AS LONG AS YOU ARE STILL PRODUCTIVE AND CIVIL AND STILL ABLE TO LEARN AND GROW>>>>>>>>>>>dance

If YOU ARE A BOSS: THIS APPLIES TO YOU, TOO! ACT! Nothing is worse than a lazy and uncommunicative boss. Promote the hardworking and the deserving. Communicate clearly and positively and politely with everyone. BE A LEADER. Why has your life elevated you to this position if not to lead? abductRemember, you hold POWER. When a worker feels safe and respected and valued, she can produce. When a worker can produce, the company wins. SO MAKE SURE THE WORKERS ARE WINNING AS WELL.

PAY WORKERS SOMETHING THEY CAN LIVE ON------------->so that they are free to be not only productive workers, but GOOD CITIZENS. Pay them something they can live on so that they can be not only good citizens, but members of thriving, happy families.

And if you are a boss who cannot see what a thriving, happy family has to do with the American GrossNationalProduct----well, just QUIT, because you are a lousy boss anyway......ha ha If you are a boss who does not realize that you would be nowhere without the American workers, I feel sorry for you because you have NO IDEA what is about to go down......damned

WORKING PEOPLE OF AMERICA! UNITE! ACT!


WHOEVER YOU ARE, IF YOU ARE WORKIING IN AMERICA and NOT being paid what you are worth, we would like to hear your story. Please send us an email to [email protected]

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if you are illuminati

LAUGH YOUR ARSE OFF!!!
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I am convinced we need a higher minimum wage, I'm thinking $100,000 an hour. That way after one shift we can almost be millionaires. Two days and we are there baby!

Now of course this is crazy, but is it any more delusional than thinking that a "minimum wage" can be pre-determined for all jobs and all locations?

Jobs should pay what people will work for. Wages too low, people wont work.

The key is to get illegals out of these jobs and out of the country. US citizens will landscape and roof houses and bus tables if pay is reasonable. Illegals drive down wages and benefits. Wake the fuck up
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Silver Liberties-- Yes, that is funny.

But why would I want to eat popcorn and soda? Yes, sometimes, but not a lot. I can grow better things on my porch. hf
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Demand that you be paid more than your labor is worth! Demand that the unemployment rate go up! Demand that more workers be laid off because businesses can't afford to pay them all! Demand that prices rise! Demand that private businesses rescue you because the government screwed up the economy! Demand all of this, because we're all special snowflakes who are entitled to everything we want and shouldn't have to work for it!
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No, YOU wake the fuck up.

I don't have to talk to you if you can't talk civilly.
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Demand that you be paid more than your labor is worth! Demand that the unemployment rate go up! Demand that more workers be laid off because businesses can't afford to pay them all! Demand that prices rise! Demand that private businesses rescue you because the government screwed up the economy! Demand all of this, because we're all special snowflakes who are entitled to everything we want and shouldn't have to work for it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15807959


Oh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Geez. What do you do for a living. Sit around on glp?
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my problem is i feel an increase would disprortionately penalize those making slightly above minimum wage. Let's say those making a quarter more than what the wage is set to increase to. How long will it be before they see a raise?
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my problem is i feel an increase would disprortionately penalize those making slightly above minimum wage. Let's say those making a quarter more than what the wage is set to increase to. How long will it be before they see a raise?
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and to the point -- i feel that essentially DEVALUES people in that position. people that are not making good money as it is.
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Demand that you be paid more than your labor is worth! Demand that the unemployment rate go up! Demand that more workers be laid off because businesses can't afford to pay them all! Demand that prices rise! Demand that private businesses rescue you because the government screwed up the economy! Demand all of this, because we're all special snowflakes who are entitled to everything we want and shouldn't have to work for it!
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Oh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Geez. What do you do for a living. Sit around on glp?
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Or are you one of those lazy bosses who does not know how to communicate with your employees? You sure sound like one here. Have I touched a nerve?
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Demand that you be paid more than your labor is worth! Demand that the unemployment rate go up! Demand that more workers be laid off because businesses can't afford to pay them all! Demand that prices rise! Demand that private businesses rescue you because the government screwed up the economy! Demand all of this, because we're all special snowflakes who are entitled to everything we want and shouldn't have to work for it!
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Oh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Geez. What do you do for a living. Sit around on glp?
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I actually can't find a job because the market's screwed up. I'm willing to work a minimum wage job, and if I could I would work for less, because the labor that is required for those jobs is not worth $7.25 an hour.

So many people have a misunderstanding of how economics works. Too many people who don't understand the subject are in charge of economic policies.
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No, YOU wake the fuck up.

I don't have to talk to you if you can't talk civilly.
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I don't give a fat rat's ass if you respond. Your reasoning and logic is on par with a low average middle schooler.

Me thinks you are in minimum wage job and bitter about it. Don't blame you for that. Work harder and/or smarter rather than bitching
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my problem is i feel an increase would disprortionately penalize those making slightly above minimum wage. Let's say those making a quarter more than what the wage is set to increase to. How long will it be before they see a raise?
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It will take them only as long as they follow the instructions in the post, i.e., learn more, do more, find a job that pays them more.
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No, YOU wake the fuck up.

I don't have to talk to you if you can't talk civilly.
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I don't give a fat rat's ass if you respond. Your reasoning and logic is on par with a low average middle schooler.

Me thinks you are in minimum wage job and bitter about it. Don't blame you for that. Work harder and/or smarter rather than bitching
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That is exactly what I am doing. And that is what my thread is about. But I wouldn't stay around you on a job because your communication skills suck.
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Demand that you be paid more than your labor is worth! Demand that the unemployment rate go up! Demand that more workers be laid off because businesses can't afford to pay them all! Demand that prices rise! Demand that private businesses rescue you because the government screwed up the economy! Demand all of this, because we're all special snowflakes who are entitled to everything we want and shouldn't have to work for it!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15807959


Oh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Geez. What do you do for a living. Sit around on glp?
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I actually can't find a job because the market's screwed up. I'm willing to work a minimum wage job, and if I could I would work for less, because the labor that is required for those jobs is not worth $7.25 an hour.

So many people have a misunderstanding of how economics works. Too many people who don't understand the subject are in charge of economic policies.
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Well, then you should volunteer until you can get paid for whatever it is that you would like to do. Don't just sit around and blame the "market" that it is "screwed up."
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How much do you think is a fair minimum wage OP?
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I think the best solution -- long term -- is to start doing whatever you can reduce pointless expenses that cultural marxists and liberal capitalists want you to spend money on so you can fit into this pile of shit they call a "culture" while also seeking you produce your own necessities [food, water, electricity] on your own property [obviously isn't going to work for those of you living in Section 8 garden apartments, but fuck your life you parasite].
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This argument is an illusion of the modern world.

The US dollar is governed by relative factors controlled by the Federal reserve.

The single most powerful tool that is being used to make people more poor is inflation.

If the minimum wage goes up, you will see a rise in the cost of living. (Inflation)

Instead of begging/demanding/extorting for the illusion of gained wealth, I think it would be more wise to educate yourselves on the creation/destruction of wealth cycle within the current economic system of the United States. After this is accomplished I think you should unite people to change that economic system to a form which doesn't allow for wealth destruction/theft.

A person working at the bottom of the stack needs to have the hope and ability to improve his/her life. When wealth is confiscated and destroyed, the ability to rise from your station goes with it. The first step of preventing the destruction/confiscation of wealth is tying your currency to something which cannot be manipulated outside your personal control.
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I can't wait!

gwdance
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I am convinced we need a higher minimum wage, I'm thinking $100,000 an hour. That way after one shift we can almost be millionaires. Two days and we are there baby!

Now of course this is crazy, but is it any more delusional than thinking that a "minimum wage" can be pre-determined for all jobs and all locations?

Jobs should pay what people will work for. Wages too low, people wont work.

The key is to get illegals out of these jobs and out of the country. US citizens will landscape and roof houses and bus tables if pay is reasonable. Illegals drive down wages and benefits. Wake the fuck up
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No, of course a minimum wage cannot be predetermined for all jobs and all locations. But people should be able to live on what they are paid. "Wages too low, people won't work." That is precisely what I am saying.

I agree with you that we have too many illegals. Too bad you had to to piss me off so fast with your profane comments.
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How much do you think is a fair minimum wage OP?
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$10.50.
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I think the best solution -- long term -- is to start doing whatever you can reduce pointless expenses that cultural marxists and liberal capitalists want you to spend money on so you can fit into this pile of shit they call a "culture" while also seeking you produce your own necessities [food, water, electricity] on your own property [obviously isn't going to work for those of you living in Section 8 garden apartments, but fuck your life you parasite].
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Why would it not work for them? If they know how to grow, it won't matter what YOU think of them, Canadian-whoever-you-are.
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How much do you think is a fair minimum wage OP?
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$10.50.
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ok let me see what I can do.

dick
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This argument is an illusion of the modern world.

The US dollar is governed by relative factors controlled by the Federal reserve.

The single most powerful tool that is being used to make people more poor is inflation.

If the minimum wage goes up, you will see a rise in the cost of living. (Inflation)

Instead of begging/demanding/extorting for the illusion of gained wealth, I think it would be more wise to educate yourselves on the creation/destruction of wealth cycle within the current economic system of the United States. After this is accomplished I think you should unite people to change that economic system to a form which doesn't allow for wealth destruction/theft.

A person working at the bottom of the stack needs to have the hope and ability to improve his/her life. When wealth is confiscated and destroyed, the ability to rise from your station goes with it. The first step of preventing the destruction/confiscation of wealth is tying your currency to something which cannot be manipulated outside your personal control.
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Ok, thank you, this is a constructive argument. And what would that something which cannot be manipulated outside my personal control be?
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I can't wait!

gwdance
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Ha, ha. Yes, we need a little levity here. Thank you for this, AC.
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I think the best solution -- long term -- is to start doing whatever you can reduce pointless expenses that cultural marxists and liberal capitalists want you to spend money on so you can fit into this pile of shit they call a "culture" while also seeking you produce your own necessities [food, water, electricity] on your own property [obviously isn't going to work for those of you living in Section 8 garden apartments, but fuck your life you parasite].
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Why would it not work for them? If they know how to grow, it won't matter what YOU think of them, Canadian-whoever-you-are.
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If you don't own the land you live on [and you don't own a Section 8 apartment], you aren't allowed to cultivate the land with food crops.

Most garden apartment and townhouse complexes won't let you cultivate foodstuffs even if they aren't Section 8.
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IF YOU ARE UNEMPLOYED: take any job that will hire you, and if they won't give you a decent wage, QUIT! Leave them in the lurch! Stop letting them take advantage of you by paying you a wage that is too low.


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LOL

That'll look good on the resume.
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How much do you think is a fair minimum wage OP?
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$10.50.
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ok let me see what I can do.

dick
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Yes, I am smiling now. Thank you, AC.
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I am convinced we need a higher minimum wage, I'm thinking $100,000 an hour. That way after one shift we can almost be millionaires. Two days and we are there baby!

Now of course this is crazy, but is it any more delusional than thinking that a "minimum wage" can be pre-determined for all jobs and all locations?

Jobs should pay what people will work for. Wages too low, people wont work.

The key is to get illegals out of these jobs and out of the country. US citizens will landscape and roof houses and bus tables if pay is reasonable. Illegals drive down wages and benefits. Wake the fuck up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55368898


I don't know what world you live in but wages ARE too low and people ARE working so your idea of "wages too low, people wont work" seems pretty fucking stupid doesn't it?
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