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Eastern Christianity (Russian) vs. Western Christianity....Is the Russian Orthodox Church the only one that will be saved?

 
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Vladimir Putin ordered that the Black Madonna of Kazan, the holiest icon of the Russian Orthodox Church, be flown over the Black Sea, many believed he wished to secure blessings for the Winter Olympics in Sochi.



Our Lady of Kazan and American Pluralism
The icon of Our Lady of Kazan (also known as the Black Virgin of Kazan) is one of the most famous in Russian Orthodoxy. One of the Virgin’s two feast days coincides with the Day of National Unity.

This is appropriate. Kazan occupies an important place in Russian history. Its conquest and destruction in 1552 eliminated the last stronghold of Mongol power in what since then has been southern Russia.

The Mongols of that region, descended from the mighty Golden Horde, had long before converted to Islam. Thus the conquest of Kazan (which was followed by a massacre of its civilian population) is also a highly symbolic marker of the conflict between Orthodox Christianity and Islam, which still reverberates today along the southern perimeter of the former Soviet Union.

The association of the Virgin with national unity is symbolic as well. It evokes the so-called sinfonia—the close unity of church and state—which characterized Russia from the beginning of its national history to the Bolshevik revolution.

It would be an exaggeration to say that the Putin regime has once again established Orthodoxy as the state religion, but it has come close to doing so. Thus Our Lady of Kazan again bestows legitimacy on the Russian state, including its foreign policy, which has been supported by the Patriarchate of Moscow. The state in turn has supported the policy of the Patriarchate to re-assert its authority over previously independent Russian Orthodox churches abroad. The long shadow of the Black Virgin has extended to America.


There are many ways of describing the distinctiveness of Orthodoxy, as against both the Roman Catholic and Protestant versions of Christianity. One way is nicely summed up in a statement by Paul Evdokimov, a lay member of the St. Serge school who did not move to America (he played a courageous role during the German occupation of France, among other things helping Jews to escape from the Nazis).


Evdokimov suggests that Western Christianity sees the relationship between God and man as taking place in a courtroom—God is the judge, man is guilty, sentence must be pronounced, Christ takes the sentence upon himself, which allows God to forgive man.


The entire transaction is judicial and penitential. By contrast, Eastern Christianity sees the relationship as taking place in a hospital—man is sick, sin is just part of the sickness, Christ is the victor over every part of this sickness (including death, which is the culmination of the sickness). The transaction between God and man is not judicial but therapeutic. It seems to me that this is a much more compassionate view of the human condition and its redemption.

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Genuine Orthodox Christians are aware of the anathema of the Moscow Patriarchate, the only legitimate churches in Russia are Catacomb Orthodox Churches, the Moscow Patriarchate sold out to the Soviets and have yet to acknowledge this fact
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Genuine Orthodox Christians are aware of the anathema of the Moscow Patriarchate, the only legitimate churches in Russia are Catacomb Orthodox Churches, the Moscow Patriarchate sold out to the Soviets and have yet to acknowledge this fact
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They are Casting itself as the “Third Rome” and the final defender of Christianity...
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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Strategizing how we get to heaven based on which religion we choose seems too existential to me (i.e. like our day-to-day search for success in society).

I think what is probably important is the ongoing truthful relationship that we have fostered with God and how this relationship has been reflected in our lives and dealings with others.
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Strategizing how we get to heaven based on which religion we choose seems too existential to me (i.e. like our day-to-day search for success in society).

I think what is probably important is the ongoing truthful relationship that we have fostered with God and how this relationship has been reflected in our lives and dealings with others.
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So what does GOD do with our sin? just forget about it??
Susie

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There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1
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What does the black Madonna have to do with Christianity?
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Strategizing how we get to heaven based on which religion we choose seems too existential to me (i.e. like our day-to-day search for success in society).

I think what is probably important is the ongoing truthful relationship that we have fostered with God and how this relationship has been reflected in our lives and dealings with others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 643103


So what does GOD do with our sin? just forget about it??
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If we have a truthful relationship with God we repent of our sins every step of the way through our lives. I *trust* God understands and sees that I am trying. The key is that we repent. I think that this is pretty clear, in the NT anyway.
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Re: Eastern Christianity (Russian) vs. Western Christianity....Is the Russian Orthodox Church the only one that will be saved?
Strategizing how we get to heaven based on which religion we choose seems too existential to me (i.e. like our day-to-day search for success in society).

I think what is probably important is the ongoing truthful relationship that we have fostered with God and how this relationship has been reflected in our lives and dealings with others.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 643103


So what does GOD do with our sin? just forget about it??
 Quoting: christian


If we have a truthful relationship with God we repent of our sins every step of the way through our lives. I *trust* God understands and sees that I am trying. The key is that we repent. I think that this is pretty clear, in the NT anyway.
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Exactly,

There can be no forgiveness or healing without repentannce in Christ the Savior who is our redeemer..
Susie

For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.....Matthew 6:21
There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heavens: Ecclesiastes 3:1





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