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TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey

 
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TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
The Turkish newspaper Hürriyet reports that if the Autonomous Republic of Crimea announces its independence, then it falls under Turkish rule. This is being reported by ipress.ua with reference to Espresso TV.

Based on what the author of the article wrote, this is confirmed by the agreement which was signed 230 years ago by the Ottoman and Russian empires.

According to the agreement, signed by the the Russian empress Catherine the Great on April 19, 1783, the Crimean peninsula will pass from the Ottoman empire to the Russian empire.

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bump
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
If Turkey exercises this treaty they could technically close the strait, essentially rendering the Black Sea fleet that Russia desired from Crimea useless...
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
Turkey = NATO = WWIII
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Funnier then "duune".

dune is nicer then sick crap blahdieblah.
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
Turkey = NATO = WWIII
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We shall see if they exercise it. They did not exercise the right to claim Crimea when The Soviet Union collapsed and they declared independence, would be interesting here in the next few days to see if they actually mention this.

I imagine this would be a huge escalation and would most assuredly cause war.
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Turkey sandwich.
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
It's cute...

The Ottoman Empire no longer exists...the Kingdom of the Czars no longer exists...

Void treaty

End of story


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fa^p fap fap fap Catherine the Great fap fap fap
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
It's cute...

The Ottoman Empire no longer exists...the Kingdom of the Czars no longer exists...

Void treaty

End of story


Find something else to fap to
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For purposes of international law, Turkey is considered the successor state to the Ottoman Empire. Unless specifically denounced or withdrawn by Turkey, international treaties signed by the Ottoman Empire remain in force for Turkey.

Get off my thread tard!
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Eh as memory , eh wow's well areas are the most enjoyable then star wars or that solar fix with the same against force as in little but more to lose or something.
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Dude...what the actual fuck?
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How awesome would that be lol.
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
For purposes of international law, Turkey is considered the successor state to the Ottoman Empire. Unless specifically denounced or withdrawn by Turkey, international treaties signed by the Ottoman Empire remain in force for Turkey.

Get off my thread tard!
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How awesome would that be lol.
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NATO can throw in the wild card!

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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
For purposes of international law, Turkey is considered the successor state to the Ottoman Empire. Unless specifically denounced or withdrawn by Turkey, international treaties signed by the Ottoman Empire remain in force for Turkey.

Get off my thread tard!
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How awesome would that be lol.
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NATO can throw in the wild card!
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Reminds me of a video game.

Another player has entered the game
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
this wont even be mentioned by the msm it wont bee used nato are too stupid DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM OFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF​FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
Understanding the very calculated overt moves mad by Putin/ Russia over the past month, one surely would believe this was covered, considered, and factored into those moves.

I do believe this is why Crimea went direct to referendum to join RF, opposed to trying to stand on their own but as allies with Russia and benefiting from the security umbrella that would accompany such.

This likely has been planned to be viewed as Crimea still abiding as closely as possible in the current situation and political climate.
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.
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Bump.

This is important
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
Hmmm... you know I was just thinking that if Putin wanted to retaliate for what happened in Ukraine they would go after Turkey. Probably by supporting the secular groups that are already in opposition to the government since lately its been Russia who has been real friendly to secular Islamic governments while Obama gives them the cold shoulder.
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Morning bump

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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
Any new developments?
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
The Ottoman Empire and Russian Empire no longer exist, so the treaties are void.
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
Understanding the very calculated overt moves mad by Putin/ Russia over the past month, one surely would believe this was covered, considered, and factored into those moves.

I do believe this is why Crimea went direct to referendum to join RF, opposed to trying to stand on their own but as allies with Russia and benefiting from the security umbrella that would accompany such.

This likely has been planned to be viewed as Crimea still abiding as closely as possible in the current situation and political climate.
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As opposed to the not calculated moves by US/EU like the orchestrated coup?
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
Someone raised the point that Russia and Turkey are the legal successors of the Ottoman and the Russian empire, so I don't know if the treaty does not longer apply.
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
all things considered this is a Turkish diversion due to the fact their government is under the microscope due to scandals

although Russia will crush turkey like a piece of paper
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
Seeing as Turkey is a member of NATO this is the way to go if they really want to start world war three..
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Re: TURKEY: Under Ottoman Empire treaty with Catherine the Great if Crimea declares independence it returns to Turkey
Don't think Putin will worry about anything signed under Catherine the Great! He does what he wants!





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