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SHTF tips you are not likely to see elsewhere - I have confirmed, with actual testing that this first one is accurate- has got to be classified!!


I am going to go ahead and put this subject up now, because I really think the SHTF will definitely hit the fan soon. This will be a list of tips you never saw before, why write what everyone else has written a thousand times? What is here is hardcore life saving stuff.


I have confirmed, with actual testing that this first one is accurate. This has got to be classified info.
All it takes to defeat infrared night vision, and I mean the GOOD STUFF, is a single sheet of 1 mil polyethelene plastic. I tested only the thin film polyethelene that Wal Mart sells as a painting drop cloth for 99 cents. It works folks, and I will tell you how I know. It is completely effective against government issued infrared night vision, both the hand held and helicopter mounted units. I have had some freaky episodes I never talked about here, to spare the drama. But it's time to talk about this one.

This was tested on the U.S. border patrol, against numerous helicopters, surveillance drones, and SUV's. I was in the back country for three days on my first border bust attempt, and evaded them entirely while they were everywhere. And finally I got tired of the plastic, convinced myself it did not work anyway, and stood up ONCE with it off and got bagged immediately. Fortunately I had my huge cameras, a laptop, and got off with a stupid story about being down there as an investigative journalist seeing how good of a job they are doing. Well, here is my report, a little over a year late.

There is not a single damn Mexican crossing the border illegally. In three days in close proximity to that damn fence I could not get across, it was too well watched and I never saw a single Mexican. That border patrol is really down there to keep Americans from getting out, the border is extremely dense with drones, planes, and helicopters, as well as ground border patrol agents and if you think you are going to get out of this country by busting the border Mexican style when tshtf, you can forget it, there is a damned iron curtain down there and it's job is to keep you IN. All the stories of the fence being easily penetrated are BULLSHIT, to make you believe you have not been locked in. Well, you HAVE.

Once they figured out I had the huge cameras (this was before I lost them) and everything else you would expect from a journalist, they drove me into town and dropped me off as a courtesy, and there were thousands of Mexicans streaming in through the border crossing, with lunch buckets and backpacks, and this was BEFORE Obama decided to announce he was just letting them in through the gate. They just let the mexicans in folks, the border fence is for US.

I got out with a legitimate Mexican visa and the WSA passport 7 months later through the crossing at Laredo. For new readers who never heard about my travails, I got destroyed and anonymously detained over my Fukushima report, which documented line for line how Israel triggered the earthquake in Japan and destroyed Fukushima with a computer virus and nuclear weapons, after triggering a nuclear tsunami to provide cover. I was forced to flee the country.

I knew I had a hostile situation, and also knew how those infrared systems work. They look for direct radiant energy, and a simple sheet of polyethelene will block that direct radiant source. But it has to be used properly or it will not work.

This is what you need to accomplish for it to be effective -

Never have it wrapped tight on your body or your body will warm it up, and then the plastic itself will radiate infrared. You have to have it extremely loose on you so that it stays cold. No where on you should it be close enough to you to be warmed by your body heat. A couple inches will do, it just cannot be in direct contact with you. A loosely draped arrangement, and when you lay down, put it over you like a blanket. Obviously if night vision is in your area you don't want to be out walking around, one snag on a tree branch and you could easily be finished. So movement will be slow.

And I know my advice on the infrared is not bullshit as a result of direct experience. It really does take ONLY a sheet of Wal Mart plastic to render it useless. And I said, POLYETHELENE, Not polypropylene, canvas, or any other material. I confirmed that Polyethylene works and won't make guesses with anything else. Fortunately polyethylene is the easiest cheapest possible solution.
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Tidal Springs
Get the DeLorme topo map of your state that they sell at truck stops. It's the one that is a full size book. Don't get the national one, get the one for your state. In it will be the full topographical information for the state, which is great for back country navigation because these maps include all the 4 wheel trails, possible obstacles, lakes, rivers, and most importantly, the TIDAL SPRINGS.

I'd bet you never heard of a tidal spring before, but knowing what one is can save your life.

Since the hostile regions such as the San Rafael Swell are the best places to hide from the storm troopers, it is essential to know what a tidal spring is.

Everyone has heard of the ocean tides. But few people realize that the land also has tides, and that the water tables are affected by the moon and sun every bit as much as the oceans are. The water in the ground will rise and fall just like the ocean does at high and low tide, and knowing this can save your life in the desert.

The desert does not get enough water to keep a full time spring going, but that spring you walk by that looks like it dried up in fact did not. For a short period of time each day, the springs in the desert will flow, and some of them can get very swift flows. When the water tables rise due to the same tidal effects that affect the ocean, tidal springs will push forth their water and flow for a short period of time. And from my experience, the output of a tidal spring can be dramatic. They typically do not just trickle, normally they are more like a broken water main. They push forth hundreds of gallons, which flow out from the spring several hundred feet before vanishing into the desert sand, EVERY DAY, on cue with the peak daily tide.

This is direct experience, not just something I read somewhere. I spent a few years studying the desert with a 4 wheel drive, and learned a few tricks. I don't think you will hear about this elsewhere, which I sort of think is damning - why not? It is key survival info. Forget about digging for a little dirty water, you can have nice clean spring fed water daily if you know this trick. Tidal springs are common in the desert, but you won't find them without one of those DeLorme maps. Rand McNally is useless. On a delorme map they are simply marked as a spring. You will know it's a tidal spring if there is no associated river. Use the map key to find the symbol.
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Don't even think about lighting a fire without extreme caution, satellites are watching!
The Fed thought of this years ago. In fact, they thought of this DECADES ago. Under the disguise of catching forest fires early on before they got out of control, the Fed launched satellites to look at the back country and detect when a fire starts. This was stated as having been done to give a first warning of a fire that needs attention. But since forest fires get out of control all the time, it's obvious the satellites are there for other reasons. And I can guess what reasons.

Such a system, which looks for temperatures over "x", can be used to look for stoves, camp fires, hot exhaust systems, you name it, and alert the other satellites that there could be something interesting to look at. Yep, it's BUBBA with his dixie flagged 4x4, out in the woods cooking a squirrel. GO NAIL HIM. Careful, he has guns. I meant "nail him" with a drone.

One thing that is going to be unique about the people who do bug out is that a lot of them are going to be idiots who still believe Arabs did 9/11. But they will know the Gov is after their guns. Such people are going to be practically useless simply because of their stupidity, and will make easy drone fodder. And the drones will not be flown by Americans, because Americans won't be reliable enough. Count on it all happening over the internet, where Zhou Fangzhou is logged on in Peking, shooting up Americans with a system American tax dollars paid for, getting even with Americans because Americans laughed while pulling shit like this: AAPACHE HIT



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Asesinato de tres personas desarmadas en Iraq desde un helicóptero Apache estadounidense


The situation is so much worse than anyone realizes. People, the Fed has authorized the launch of over 70,000 drones over American soil. WHY? Think about that. It's obvious. It is so that they can contract out the killing of dissenters to foreign nations, and totally bypass all reservations American soldiers might have over killing their own people. The death of the patriot movement will come from the sky via the desks, couches and TV rooms of nations like China, Russia, Pakistan, and any other nation that rightfully hates our guts after how America behaved. I'd bet they will even hire Arabs to do it.

Concealment of fire is going to be a key determiner of who survives in the back country and who does not. All fires should be as small as possible and under cover. When you use fire, and it does not matter if it's a stove or an open pit, make good and sure you are under cover that totally blocks the sky. Satellites have an angle of view, so getting down into a tight ravine or crevice and lighting the fire there is very likely to obstruct a satellite's view of it but it would be best to keep the fire totally concealed from all direct view of the open sky. And clouds are not cover for this, when it comes to heat a satellite can look right through the clouds.
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SHTF tips you are not likely to see elsewhere - I have confirmed, with actual testing that this first one is accurate- has got to be classified!!


I am going to go ahead and put this subject up now, because I really think the SHTF will definitely hit the fan soon. This will be a list of tips you never saw before, why write what everyone else has written a thousand times? What is here is hardcore life saving stuff.


I have confirmed, with actual testing that this first one is accurate. This has got to be classified info.
All it takes to defeat infrared night vision, and I mean the GOOD STUFF, is a single sheet of 1 mil polyethelene plastic. I tested only the thin film polyethelene that Wal Mart sells as a painting drop cloth for 99 cents. It works folks, and I will tell you how I know. It is completely effective against government issued infrared night vision, both the hand held and helicopter mounted units. I have had some freaky episodes I never talked about here, to spare the drama. But it's time to talk about this one.

This was tested on the U.S. border patrol, against numerous helicopters, surveillance drones, and SUV's. I was in the back country for three days on my first border bust attempt, and evaded them entirely while they were everywhere. And finally I got tired of the plastic, convinced myself it did not work anyway, and stood up ONCE with it off and got bagged immediately. Fortunately I had my huge cameras, a laptop, and got off with a stupid story about being down there as an investigative journalist seeing how good of a job they are doing. Well, here is my report, a little over a year late.

There is not a single damn Mexican crossing the border illegally. In three days in close proximity to that damn fence I could not get across, it was too well watched and I never saw a single Mexican. That border patrol is really down there to keep Americans from getting out, the border is extremely dense with drones, planes, and helicopters, as well as ground border patrol agents and if you think you are going to get out of this country by busting the border Mexican style when tshtf, you can forget it, there is a damned iron curtain down there and it's job is to keep you IN. All the stories of the fence being easily penetrated are BULLSHIT, to make you believe you have not been locked in. Well, you HAVE.

Once they figured out I had the huge cameras (this was before I lost them) and everything else you would expect from a journalist, they drove me into town and dropped me off as a courtesy, and there were thousands of Mexicans streaming in through the border crossing, with lunch buckets and backpacks, and this was BEFORE Obama decided to announce he was just letting them in through the gate. They just let the mexicans in folks, the border fence is for US.

I got out with a legitimate Mexican visa and the WSA passport 7 months later through the crossing at Laredo. For new readers who never heard about my travails, I got destroyed and anonymously detained over my Fukushima report, which documented line for line how Israel triggered the earthquake in Japan and destroyed Fukushima with a computer virus and nuclear weapons, after triggering a nuclear tsunami to provide cover. I was forced to flee the country.

I knew I had a hostile situation, and also knew how those infrared systems work. They look for direct radiant energy, and a simple sheet of polyethelene will block that direct radiant source. But it has to be used properly or it will not work.

This is what you need to accomplish for it to be effective -

Never have it wrapped tight on your body or your body will warm it up, and then the plastic itself will radiate infrared. You have to have it extremely loose on you so that it stays cold. No where on you should it be close enough to you to be warmed by your body heat. A couple inches will do, it just cannot be in direct contact with you. A loosely draped arrangement, and when you lay down, put it over you like a blanket. Obviously if night vision is in your area you don't want to be out walking around, one snag on a tree branch and you could easily be finished. So movement will be slow.

And I know my advice on the infrared is not bullshit as a result of direct experience. It really does take ONLY a sheet of Wal Mart plastic to render it useless. And I said, POLYETHELENE, Not polypropylene, canvas, or any other material. I confirmed that Polyethylene works and won't make guesses with anything else. Fortunately polyethylene is the easiest cheapest possible solution.
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What about the Canadian border?
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Do you have a website with your info/findings?
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Interesting, I had always wondered if solar emergency blankets would do this also but polyethelene would be easier to get in larger sizes.
Also wanna get some stealth wear [link to ahprojects.com] but its kinda expensive.
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Do you have a website with your info/findings?
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Really. This is some very informative shit, well written too. Please, continue.
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Do you have a website with your info/findings?
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Really. This is some very informative shit, well written too. Please, continue.
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Sir, may I have more please ?
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"A friend and I were outdoors in the greater MSP Wisconsin area, and a predator drone flew so low to us that we could clearly see it armed with missiles. I have not heard of any other such sightings yet."

My comment

Glitch has no history of posting B.S., and that gives weight to this report. On top of that, I am familiar with St. Croix county (msp area) and can state that if you wanted to play around with an armed drone, it would be a great place to do it. The population is relatively diffuse but there is excellent infrastructure and good ground accessiblilty to all areas.

I am not surprised by this report, Obama said he would do this. St Croix county is a place where you can get away with having a gun rack in the rear window of your pickup truck, with rifles and shotguns clearly visible to people behind you, while on top of that having the population be somewhat cosmopolitan. It is not redneck turf, yet guns are beyond accepted, they are a way of life. Everyone who is anyone has several.

Said gun racks are common accessories and though I never lived in St Croix county, I had my rear window adorned with guns myself. When you consider the fact that such gun racks are CULTURE in that area of the country, it is probably safe to assume that Obama would piss himself over the opportunity to start drone striking mud ducks and chedder heads. THAT would be a hard area to put down - a picture really is worth a thousand words.
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Cool thread! thumbs

Thanks for the info.
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let me the first to say it (about the plastic.)


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On top of that, thermal and night vision are two different animals, you would know that if you had ever been around them or used either system.One sees where the other cant and vice versa.
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The Main Core- What the NSA hacking on America really means


When I worked for the NSA prior to 9/11, the NSA only looked outward, not inward. And I never thought the NSA ever would look inward and spy on the American people. I knew that if that ever happened the result would be catastrophic. After 9/11 I knew the NSA was looking inward to some degree, and had suspected they might be recording everything before Snowden blew the whistle, but I was not certain. Now we all can be. And I would like to go into a few things here to explain to people how grave this situation really is.

When an agency like the NSA looks outward into other countries, it cannot be a tool that is used by the governments of the countries being spied on to oppress the people in that country. When used to spy on foreigners the NSA and other similar agencies are not part of the policy making for that which they are observing. So the purpose for any spying by agencies such as the NSA will be limited to key elements of the observed nation, such as the government agencies and major companies that could present a problem to the whole of America in the future. The NSA will not pay attention to Joe the bar-b-q chef or Moe the mechanic, because on an individual level ordinary people in foreign countries are a waste of time to observe.


It is very different when such an intelligence agency looks inward at it's host population
With the NSA looking inward, especially with them recording every phone conversation and e-mail and not just the meta data, the people who understand what America really is supposed to be are now fully identified. These people, which are referred to as "the main core" represent what remains of the backbone of this once great nation, the core of which numbers 8 million with 30 or so million close enough to the main core for any psychopath to be able to justify taking out along with it. If America is to become the totally transformed Communist society that the Zionists want it to be, the main core has got to be ripped out, and the NSA has made this future event possible to accomplish with minimal effort and pin point precision.

There is no question that the elitist zionist faction wants every aspect of America it cannot control with ease wiped out, just like the elitist Zionists Bolsheviks did to the Ukranian people. And as America approaches this same reality, we have the same approximate numbers, 30 - 70 million slated for death and internment in America. With the DHS ordering well over a billion rounds of ammo, countless tens of thousands of cheap plastic coffins already purchased and sitting in storage yards, 2,700 giant heavily armed vehicles which are totally impenetrable to civilian weapons, vehicles perfectly capable of gutting American homes with high caliber gunfire right from the curb side, it is time for Americans to face a simple fact - All of the stories are more than just rumor. And because these stories are not just rumor, I would take the NSA spying on everyone VERY seriously.


It's too late
If you think Americans can change this situation with a 300 million eyed monster observing everyone's every move, you are off in fantasy land somewhere. It is GAME OVER. You cannot beat this monster with a cute little encryption trick performed on a compromised operating system with a compromised processor tapped into via a compromised internet. I see all of the new stupid pet trick type encryption fantasies some people are parading on the web now to "secure" themselves against the NSA as some sort of useless bubble gum fad, IF YOU WORKED FOR THEM AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS GOING ON, YOU WOULD REALIZE SUCH EFFORTS ARE AS LAUGHABLE AS TRYING TO FIX A SEMI WITH A PLASTIC BARBIE TOOL SET. And if you are even able to HAVE that barbie tool set and try to use it, you are already flagged for elimination anyway. You should be focusing your efforts on other subjects like GETTING THE HELL OUT.

And they know who you are. They know you know. They know if you have guns. They know you are not pleased with Obama, Bush, and false flag terror. They know you probably know the truth about the "holocaust", the truth about vaccines, GMO, and any other number of your particular pet topics that make them itch. They know where you are going to bug out to, and they know what you bought for it. If your car is 2005 or newer, they will watch you go to your bug out place and nail you there. Ditto if you are stupid enough to bring your cell, or bring anyone elses for that matter.

Your only option is to get to Iceland, Venezuela, Ecuador or any other country that proved itself with Snowden before the axe falls. Unlike the illegal immigrant "problem" America has, a large scale influx of Americans into nations such as Ecuador would intellectually launch any country that accepted them 30 years into the future because it won't be the idiots fleeing America, it will be the cream of the crop - those smart enough to see the asteroid coming. And if for any of the 500 reasons America now revokes passports from complete non criminals you are one of the 50 million that does not have one, GO INTO THE FOREIGN EMBASSIES AND START REQUESTING ASYLUM NOW.


When the axe falls
When the axe falls, you WON'T be running to Mexico because the border fence was for YOU, and unlike the B.S. you were told, it is totally impassable if you can even get to it. The border is so well surveilled now that you can't even get close to that fence which is impossible to get across even if you do. I know this because I spent four days in the back country border zone observing what is going on. Believe me, the security is real, and it is for stopping Americans, NOT Mexicans. And if you think Canada will save you, WAKE UP.

When the axe falls, the Zionist Bolsheviks who run the U.S. government will be on the diplomatic channels to all nations saying it is fair and balanced and everyone will get a fair trial, so anyone who is complaining here and asking for asylum is some sort of lunatic. They will have PR campaigns of epic proportions coming out of Hollywood and paid for advertisements in all prospective refuge nations, calling you a criminal or a nut case or a deadbeat to hinder your asylum bid. They will have the CIA working overtime, and the zionist factions within the not totally infiltrated prospective asylum nations working overtime in secret to flip public opinion against you. If you were part of America's main core, they have ONE objective for you - to burn you to ashes or bury you in a pit somewhere, and that objective does not involve allowing you to escape to bring the seeds of America out of the country to sprout a whole new "problem" for them elsewhere.
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I am going to seek asylum pretty soon. I don't know where to began, but I guess that is what google is for.

To the people who are bs this thread, it is you who are full of shit. You probably didn't read the wall of text anyway, but this time you should have.
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Hiding your IR signature of your cooking/Heating fire

Just ideas.

Use a Underground lair, with a csay/straw mass to pull most of the heat out of your exhaust before it exits above ground.
Have a air intake that is above the Snow line outside, but hidden from direct overhead view so when it is not used heat escaping will not be seen.

Put a large non burnable tarp at least 2-3 feet above your exhaust pipe/stack with good airflow mixing with the gases to cool them to air temperature before they exit the edges of your Tarp. The first tarp should be covered with a second to hide any warm spots, it should be 1-2 feet above the first with good airflow again to cool the whole tarp. Trees or Other Natural Cover should hide your tarps from NON IR Cameras.

Using water pump cooled heat exchangers using air/pump raised water and a gravity drain system for the whole setup is ideal, but a little hard for most people to do without materials and simple engineering experience.
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Clay/Straw Mass (sometimes called Cob
besides using water/Stone/Cob as a heat sink to draw off heat before it exits your flu, also use as little wood/fuel as needed by using things like a rocket stove/ or downdraft Wood Gas stove so you are only making as much heat as you need, when you need it.

by making the fuel feeder gravity fed, where the air enters the stove you can sett it up to burn at a near constant rate if you cut your wood right, and set up the burn chamber correctly, If you are heating under ground you do not need much heat anyway since you only have to heat 15-25F year round anyway. In the Summer you can have a second flu that bypasses all your heat sink to only use the fire to distil water or cook.
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Interesting, I had always wondered if solar emergency blankets would do this also but polyethelene would be easier to get in larger sizes.
Also wanna get some stealth wear [link to ahprojects.com] but its kinda expensive.
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use the poly sheeting with the mylar blankets taped to them just to be sure.
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other considerations

things that can give away your location.
using radio transmitters, Flashlights, cooking, making a outhouse/using it, smoking your food to preserve it, walking in the snow, when there is no drifting/snowing to cover it up..

You need a Animal proof place to keep your food.
bear bags work but are visible, bag and rope.
To keep food safely in your living dwelling it needs to be kept in Air tight containers, or dried completely and kept away from moisture. Be prepared to Kill any hungry animals that come looking for your dinner

Having a way to store waste food/and human waste and dispose of it is a key. Keep in mind compost piles will give off heat year round, and decomposing human waste not done in the "earth closet" manner of instant composting of human waste will both have a smell and give off heat as it breaks down.

Keeping enough liquid water distilled or filtered year round underground to keep it cool, but liquid is important when you have a base camp, have a second and third camps within walking distance, even in BAD weather in case your primary is discovered or has safety issues.
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I've said it before about the border patrol, they are NOT there to keep the illegals out. When the time comes, they are there to keep Americans from getting out.
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OP, you're goofy.
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Make sure you have multiple sources of Air coming into your shelter if you live underground, especially if you heat with combustion, and make sure the outside openings are shielded from snow/ice so they do not get covered in storms or you will suffocate.
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Don't even think about lighting a fire without extreme caution, satellites are watching!
The Fed thought of this years ago. In fact, they thought of this DECADES ago. Under the disguise of catching forest fires early on before they got out of control, the Fed launched satellites to look at the back country and detect when a fire starts. This was stated as having been done to give a first warning of a fire that needs attention. But since forest fires get out of control all the time, it's obvious the satellites are there for other reasons. And I can guess what reasons.

Such a system, which looks for temperatures over "x", can be used to look for stoves, camp fires, hot exhaust systems, you name it, and alert the other satellites that there could be something interesting to look at. Yep, it's BUBBA with his dixie flagged 4x4, out in the woods cooking a squirrel. GO NAIL HIM. Careful, he has guns. I meant "nail him" with a drone.

One thing that is going to be unique about the people who do bug out is that a lot of them are going to be idiots who still believe Arabs did 9/11. But they will know the Gov is after their guns. Such people are going to be practically useless simply because of their stupidity, and will make easy drone fodder. And the drones will not be flown by Americans, because Americans won't be reliable enough. Count on it all happening over the internet, where Zhou Fangzhou is logged on in Peking, shooting up Americans with a system American tax dollars paid for, getting even with Americans because Americans laughed while pulling shit like this: AAPACHE HIT



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The situation is so much worse than anyone realizes. People, the Fed has authorized the launch of over 70,000 drones over American soil. WHY? Think about that. It's obvious. It is so that they can contract out the killing of dissenters to foreign nations, and totally bypass all reservations American soldiers might have over killing their own people. The death of the patriot movement will come from the sky via the desks, couches and TV rooms of nations like China, Russia, Pakistan, and any other nation that rightfully hates our guts after how America behaved. I'd bet they will even hire Arabs to do it.

Concealment of fire is going to be a key determiner of who survives in the back country and who does not. All fires should be as small as possible and under cover. When you use fire, and it does not matter if it's a stove or an open pit, make good and sure you are under cover that totally blocks the sky. Satellites have an angle of view, so getting down into a tight ravine or crevice and lighting the fire there is very likely to obstruct a satellite's view of it but it would be best to keep the fire totally concealed from all direct view of the open sky. And clouds are not cover for this, when it comes to heat a satellite can look right through the clouds.
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Ahh, clever boy, you are so very correct, tech may not have started out intending to target inconvenient mericans, but it has been redirected for that purpose.
Yes the signs along the border are directed towards those already in the country, in english, to stay away from border regions.
Just as with thermal and body heat, any sheild between heat source and imaging tech would be necessary and as the very air mass can become hot on its own with enough BTUs, any output of heat will need to be diffused before it accumulates.
But yeah, anyone can fly a drone from anywhere in the world if they have the access to the system.
Guess who claims they lead the world in surveillance tech and computer access and utilization tech?
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let me the first to say it (about the plastic.)


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On top of that, thermal and night vision are two different animals, you would know that if you had ever been around them or used either system.One sees where the other cant and vice versa.
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fact is that most all weapons systems imaging have both thermal and light amplification systems because theyre they are complementary.
The problem is that while thermal can be managed relatively easily with a shield, light amplification is much harder to game and movement is more readily seen.

In the end, its not as easy as it seems since you cant build a dome over yourself and sit motionless for ever.

Nobody wins on defense when they are outmanned, outsupplied and out of options
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IR plus starlight
you have seen those videos from Apaches. they see by light so dim - starlight.

Honestly, once they are in the air stay invisible.
Government is a body largely ungoverned.
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let me the first to say it (about the plastic.)


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On top of that, thermal and night vision are two different animals, you would know that if you had ever been around them or used either system.One sees where the other cant and vice versa.
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fact is that most all weapons systems imaging have both thermal and light amplification systems because theyre they are complementary.
The problem is that while thermal can be managed relatively easily with a shield, light amplification is much harder to game and movement is more readily seen.

In the end, its not as easy as it seems since you cant build a dome over yourself and sit motionless for ever.

Nobody wins on defense when they are outmanned, outsupplied and out of options
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As they say, do the math. Only way a non technical group can level the playing field with a technical group is remove the power. Thats why we have a Navy. No one can sneak aboard your airport and turn it off. If they can't launch these critters off carrier decks they inherit another set of problems.

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Sounds like good advice.
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I saw the FEMA Coffins for the first time this past Friday bring moved around the north metro of MSP.
Looked as if they were coming from somewhere north and being brought down into the metro area.

I have also seen a few MRAP DHS armored vehicles being delivered to MSP and suburban cities.

They have big plans, like you said, for MSP/Wis area.





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