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I'm calling bullshit.

Now they have to suspend the search due to bad weather for a couple more weeks and the black boxes will never be found.

Also. Boeing - Inmarsat connection? ---->

[link to www.4-traders.com]

UPDATE from Inmarsat:

"Search parties now know where the plane went down to within a few hundred kilometers."

"Unfortunately this is a 1990s satellite over the Indian Ocean that is not GPS-equipped. All we believe we can do is to say that we believe it is in this general location, but we cannot give you the final few feet and inches where it landed," Inmarsat's external affairs head Chris McLaughlin told Sky News."

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Re: UPDATE! "MH370 FOUND" (original post) Inmarsat Tried Out BRAND NEW Technology
They came to a conclusion on some pings
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They pinged it

It has to be crashed

BecUse each aircraft puts out a unique ping

Bulllshit
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They pinged it

It has to be crashed

BecUse each aircraft puts out a unique ping

Bulllshit
 Quoting: Astral Goat


ONE satellite picked up the "ping"? What's the point of a "ping" if only one satellite can manage to pick it up?
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Some mainstream newspapers in Malaysia had the headline, "RIP MH370" even though no piece of the debris, wreckage, black box or bodies are recovered yet >>> [link to www.themalaysianinsider.com]

WTF man!! Who the hell they're thinking they're trying to lie to? 3-year old kids? If they want to lie or put up a cover story, at least wait until the supposed "debris" (planted or not) have been recovered, for fuck's sake.
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Some mainstream newspapers in Malaysia had the headline, "RIP MH370" even though no piece of the debris, wreckage, black box or bodies are recovered yet >>> [link to www.themalaysianinsider.com]

WTF man!! Who the hell they're thinking they're trying to lie to? 3-year old kids? If they want to lie or put up a cover story, at least wait until the supposed "debris" (planted or not) have been recovered, for fuck's sake.
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SPOT ON!
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They have no idea where it went really

They got pings but it could have been from anything

Aircraft do. Not send pings to satellites

They just want to get back to. Business


Hell, they may lose another
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I just don't understand how that ONE satellite could pick up the "pings".

1 ping every hour
7 pings - 7 hours

A satellite orbits the Earth at a pretty damn fast rate. (on average every 90 minutes)

So if a "ping" is so damn hard to pick up - how did a single satellite manage to pick up all 7?
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I just don't understand how that ONE satellite could pick up the "pings".

1 ping every hour
7 pings - 7 hours

A satellite orbits the Earth at a pretty damn fast rate. (on average every 90 minutes)

So if a "ping" is so damn hard to pick up - how did a single satellite manage to pick up all 7?
 Quoting: Jayceon


That and using your numbers, the math is off for the duration of the transponder disabled flight time.

7 / 1.5 hours

Not 7 pings.
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I just don't understand how that ONE satellite could pick up the "pings".

1 ping every hour
7 pings - 7 hours

A satellite orbits the Earth at a pretty damn fast rate. (on average every 90 minutes)

So if a "ping" is so damn hard to pick up - how did a single satellite manage to pick up all 7?
 Quoting: Jayceon


That and using your numbers, the math is off for the duration of the transponder disabled flight time.

7 / 1.5 hours

Not 7 pings.
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I really don't know the orbital speed of the Inmarsat satellite. But I'm guessing it would be between 7 and 10 km/s (to stay in orbit).

That would be a equatorial orbit time of 90-120 minutes.
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The pinging from the aircraft had been turned off so they are making shit up. Listen to the words. It's like they are talking to children. They use buzz words like "with confidence" "ruled out" "new procedure" "painstaking detail". It's all a load of crap. And people who think of themselves as intelligent will stand around the coffee machine at work and confidently repeat the BS to their co-workers who say, "I don't get it." Like the collapse of the twin towers, this will be a tour de force for the asshole know-it-alls in your midst. They know not what they do.
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Assuming any of this is true, the satellite technique used relied on data and not video so how do they know the plane crashed. They were careful with the use of language also…something like the plane last reported location. And then they went on to say that the plane crashed.

The funny thing is that their data bent them towards the south. How many times have calculations been wrong……especially one used for the first time? If this result showed a positive, the plane would in fact have ended where it did, but only northwards and in the Pakistan area. I think thus the plane will come back from the head and used in a FF event just like 9/11. That way, everyone finally gets the proof they've all been waiting for that this was an extremist act and an act of terror.

It is also irresponsible for authorities to declare the passengers as dead when no no one can confirm the plane crashed, did a controlled descent or a piece of debris is available to be shown as proof, assuming this story actually happened as they say. So it is either that this story didn't happen and they already knew the outcome and what they are going to tell people or that this story actually happened and they killed these people themselves. Or in fact something else will happen on the backsides of this which is why I keep on saying that the plane will come from the North and used in a FF event and the passengers will be dead either way.

I think NSA will be brought into this picture soon to solve this mystery after a FF event and their spying is justified once and for all. Extremists have potentially used a technique that evaded all available modern tech and they could blame Snowden for this..for exposing modern means of tracking to terrorists which they now exploited.

NSA is due for an overhaul this Friday the 28th. Could we see a FF by the end of this week?

Also this [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]

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I'm calling bullshit.

Now they have to suspend the search due to bad weather for a couple more weeks and the black boxes will never be found.

Also. Boeing - Inmarsat connection? ---->

[link to www.4-traders.com]
 Quoting: Jayceon


How convenient plane is presumed to be in area of great depth.
HOW CONVENIENT! Throw out some debris - Presto - Chango -
POOF! ALL GONE. BYE-BYE.

yea - right. Right up there with Boston - Sandy Hook -& 9-11.

How Convenient...... Who's behind the curtain.........
Is it N-A-T-A-S,.....................
churchlady
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Assuming any of this is true, the satellite technique used relied on data and not video. They was careful with the use of language also…something like the plane last reported location. And then they went on to say that the plane crashed.

The funny thing is that their data bent them towards the south. How many times have calculations been wrong……especially one used for the first time? If this result showed a positive, the plane would in fact have ended in where it did, but only northwards and in the Pakistan area. I think thus plane will come back from the head.

It is also irresponsible for authorities to declare the passengers as dead, assuming this story actually happened as it did. So it is either that this story didn't happen and they already knew the outcome and what they are going to tell people or that this storey actually happened and they killed these people themselves.

I think NSA will be brought into this picture soon to solve this mystery after a FF event and their spying is justified once and for all. Extremists have potentially used a technique that evaded all available modern tech and they could blame Snowden for this.

Also this [link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
 Quoting: Ohwell


Good read.

It's like they finally just said "OK, enough with the bullshit: The plane went down - they're all dead. Period. No more questions."

This is a fabricated event - and we don't know for what reasons yet....
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I'm calling bullshit.

Now they have to suspend the search due to bad weather for a couple more weeks and the black boxes will never be found.

Also. Boeing - Inmarsat connection? ---->

[link to www.4-traders.com]
 Quoting: Jayceon


How convenient plane is presumed to be in area of great depth.
HOW CONVENIENT! Throw out some debris - Presto - Chango -
POOF! ALL GONE. BYE-BYE.

yea - right. Right up there with Boston - Sandy Hook -& 9-11.

How Convenient...... Who's behind the curtain.........
Is it N-A-T-A-S,.....................
churchlady
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Move on - move on.... nothing to see here.
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Have you noticed how the aircraft maker, which I think is Boeing, their CEO has not said a word? How unusual to be so quite. Basically, most of the information seems to be coming from people in the positions of authority from what we may consider 3rd world countries.
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Have you noticed how the aircraft maker, which I think is Boeing, their CEO has not said a word? How unusual to be so quite. Basically, most of the information seems to be coming from people in the positions of authority from what we may consider 3rd world countries.
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And 3rd parties not the people who are stakeholders. Dont worry, this was all staged and they are herding us in the direction that this was an act of terrorism. I think the plane will come back from the dead.

NSA will feature in this picture soon after a FF event. I have long since warned of this moment. And its here. NSA and the spying is about to be justified.
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And third world countries are vassal states of the US or China. Malaysia is a Chinese vassal state. And the US has stayed out of this -- from all appearances. Read between the lines. Beware the church mouse .
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All your comms, all your transport, all your banking are belong to US.
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Here's why I don't believe the new conclusions are watertight.

The new approach relied on comparing the ping signals received with the signals received from a large number of airlines at known locations. These signals would presumably have differed in strength due to atmospheric attenuation, with those from the south passing through the atmosphere at a lower angle, and therefore being slightly weaker (or affected in some other way by the prolonged atmospheric exposure).

That's all fine. EXCEPT: the evidence we have suggests that MH370 was flying low. This means that the signal was passing through more of the atmosphere (and the denser parts of it). Without knowing the details of their analysis, it's hard to be sure, but I'm willing to bet that the signal from a low-flying plane on the northern route could resemble that from a cruise altitude plane on the southern route.

Until there's debris identified, I'll remain unconvinced. It still makes no rational sense for the plane to have ended up in this area.
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Here's why I don't believe the new conclusions are watertight.

The new approach relied on comparing the ping signals received with the signals received from a large number of airlines at known locations. These signals would presumably have differed in strength due to atmospheric attenuation, with those from the south passing through the atmosphere at a lower angle, and therefore being slightly weaker (or affected in some other way by the prolonged atmospheric exposure).

That's all fine. EXCEPT: the evidence we have suggests that MH370 was flying low. This means that the signal was passing through more of the atmosphere (and the denser parts of it). Without knowing the details of their analysis, it's hard to be sure, but I'm willing to bet that the signal from a low-flying plane on the northern route could resemble that from a cruise altitude plane on the southern route.

Until there's debris identified, I'll remain unconvinced. It still makes no rational sense for the plane to have ended up in this area.
 Quoting: Wurzel


Please keep in mind here that this is all made up info the MSM want to sell us.

Your point is precisely why the MSM, if you have noticed, are leaving our minds open to the North. That the plane could have indeed flown inland toward Pakistan. And that indeed the plane could come back from the dead to be used in a FF event. Its all lies and dis-info they fed us but Im glad Ive just been an observer in all this.
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Here's why I don't believe the new conclusions are watertight.

The new approach relied on comparing the ping signals received with the signals received from a large number of airlines at known locations. These signals would presumably have differed in strength due to atmospheric attenuation, with those from the south passing through the atmosphere at a lower angle, and therefore being slightly weaker (or affected in some other way by the prolonged atmospheric exposure).

That's all fine. EXCEPT: the evidence we have suggests that MH370 was flying low. This means that the signal was passing through more of the atmosphere (and the denser parts of it). Without knowing the details of their analysis, it's hard to be sure, but I'm willing to bet that the signal from a low-flying plane on the northern route could resemble that from a cruise altitude plane on the southern route.

Until there's debris identified, I'll remain unconvinced. It still makes no rational sense for the plane to have ended up in this area.
 Quoting: Wurzel


Good analysis. I agree. I would want to see the actual method they used. Not just a couple of lines on a map. "The plane didn't go north... so it went south."
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I'm calling BS on the UK team. The debris travel one nautical mile per hour, or one knot in these waters.

What they saying means IT JUST PLUNGED into the water.. So if they did find something ... ITS NOT MH370 What ever is in the water there had to have travled 14days x 24 knots and guess where that puts the debris.....

NO WHERE NEAR THEIR PINING

Last picture showed seewead!
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I'm calling BS on the UK team. The debris travel one nautical mile per hour, or one knot in these waters.

What they saying means IT JUST PLUNGED into the water.. So if they did find something ... ITS NOT MH370 What ever is in the water there had to have travled 14days x 24 knots and guess where that puts the debris.....

NO WHERE NEAR THEIR PINING

Last picture showed seewead!
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They released a picture taken from a Chinese search plane. Broad daylight - two clouds in the picture and a white spot in the water. Why the FUCK didn't they fly in for a closer look?
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I'm calling BS on the UK team. The debris travel one nautical mile per hour, or one knot in these waters.

What they saying means IT JUST PLUNGED into the water.. So if they did find something ... ITS NOT MH370 What ever is in the water there had to have travled 14days x 24 knots and guess where that puts the debris.....

NO WHERE NEAR THEIR PINING

Last picture showed seewead!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54481360


They released a picture taken from a Chinese search plane. Broad daylight - two clouds in the picture and a white spot in the water. Why the FUCK didn't they fly in for a closer look?
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I have seen this picture too. The same thing ran in my head. Get a closer shot, maybe survivors... (Natural response)

But it just confirms our suspicions. They have NOTHING! They must have gone in closer and noticed it was a dead whale on his back. But still released the image to proof their point.

What they feed us.
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Please keep in mind here that this is all made up info the MSM want to sell us.

Your point is precisely why the MSM, if you have noticed, are leaving our minds open to the North. That the plane could have indeed flown inland toward Pakistan. And that indeed the plane could come back from the dead to be used in a FF event. Its all lies and dis-info they fed us but Im glad Ive just been an observer in all this.
 Quoting: Ohwell


In this case, my feeling is that the MSM are as confused as everyone else. I have no doubt there is a lot more known by at least some governments, and some MSM outlets are influenced by them, but my impression is that most journalists simply smell a rat - like the rest of us.

I'm really not some bandwagon-jumping conspiracy nut, but in some cases the official version just doesn't make much sense. If there was enough of a problem to knock out the pilots and passengers (no-one made family contact by phone while over Malaysia), how could the plane keep flying on autopilot for another six hours? And why would the transponder have been switched off before the final communication? and if it was deliberate destruction, why on earth would they keep flying southwest until they ran out of fuel in the middle of nowhere?
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Here's why I don't believe the new conclusions are watertight.

The new approach relied on comparing the ping signals received with the signals received from a large number of airlines at known locations. These signals would presumably have differed in strength due to atmospheric attenuation, with those from the south passing through the atmosphere at a lower angle, and therefore being slightly weaker (or affected in some other way by the prolonged atmospheric exposure).

That's all fine. EXCEPT: the evidence we have suggests that MH370 was flying low. This means that the signal was passing through more of the atmosphere (and the denser parts of it). Without knowing the details of their analysis, it's hard to be sure, but I'm willing to bet that the signal from a low-flying plane on the northern route could resemble that from a cruise altitude plane on the southern route.

Until there's debris identified, I'll remain unconvinced. It still makes no rational sense for the plane to have ended up in this area.
 Quoting: Wurzel


Good analysis. I agree. I would want to see the actual method they used. Not just a couple of lines on a map. "The plane didn't go north... so it went south."
 Quoting: Jayceon


Thanks. Good to know I'm not the only one seeing how flimsy this is...
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They pinged it

It has to be crashed

BecUse each aircraft puts out a unique ping

Bulllshit
 Quoting: Astral Goat


I agree. A unique ping? Does the FAA or some other entity have these unique "ping" signatures on some sort of file, and are able to discern that the ping they have identified is really MH370's ? I dunno... Seems like a smoke screen to me.abomb
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Looks like we'll "know" soon enough:
[link to uk.news.yahoo.com]
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...sure wish George Carlin was still here with us, he'd have some great fucking material from this shit....

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Please keep in mind here that this is all made up info the MSM want to sell us.

Your point is precisely why the MSM, if you have noticed, are leaving our minds open to the North. That the plane could have indeed flown inland toward Pakistan. And that indeed the plane could come back from the dead to be used in a FF event. Its all lies and dis-info they fed us but Im glad Ive just been an observer in all this.
 Quoting: Ohwell


In this case, my feeling is that the MSM are as confused as everyone else. I have no doubt there is a lot more known by at least some governments, and some MSM outlets are influenced by them, but my impression is that most journalists simply smell a rat - like the rest of us.

I'm really not some bandwagon-jumping conspiracy nut, but in some cases the official version just doesn't make much sense. If there was enough of a problem to knock out the pilots and passengers (no-one made family contact by phone while over Malaysia), how could the plane keep flying on autopilot for another six hours? And why would the transponder have been switched off before the final communication? and if it was deliberate destruction, why on earth would they keep flying southwest until they ran out of fuel in the middle of nowhere?
 Quoting: Wurzel


There is just TOO much bullshit to be believable. Just like 9/11 - I can believe when a few things go wrong, like a plane being hijacked. But when 1 000 "coincidences" happen at the same day my sense of logic kicks in and my bullshitometer goes red.





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