New dwarf planet in the Oort cloud changes picture of solar system. . .

New dwarf planet found sneaking through the inner Oort Cloud

[link to arstechnica.com]

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Cool Discovery: Another Incredibly Distant Member of the Solar System

[link to www.slate.com]

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Dwarf planet discovery hints at a hidden Super Earth in solar system

[link to www.theguardian.com]

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Newfound pink world lurks at solar system fringes

[link to bostonherald.com]

Nibiru.

Dwarf planet stretches Solar System's edge

[link to www.nature.com]

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Dwarf planet discovered at solar system's edge

[link to www.cnn.com]

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Dwarf Planets in the Extreme Outer Solar System (Infographic)

"Anomalies in the orbits of Sedna and 2012 VP113 tantalizingly suggest that one or more giant planets 10 times the mass of Earth could orbit in the dark, frozen outer fringe of our solar system, 250 A.U.s or more from the sun."

[link to www.space.com]

So what?

That's pretty cool but it seems kinda...doomless.

!!! PIN THIS SHIT !!!

it's the first step to PX

the orbit of the new planet & the orbit of sedna
show clearly, that PLANET X EXISTS !!!

why is'nt this pinned????????????

Dwarf planet discovery hints at another planet

"Scientists say they've found a pink dwarf planet that travels farther from the sun than anything ever seen. Its discovery has led to tantalizing hints that a separate, unknown planet bigger than the Earth lurks at the fringes of the solar system, exerting a stealthy control over its neighbors."

[link to www.usatoday.com]

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Dwarf Planet Discovery Hints at Hidden World Orbiting Solar System

"Discovery of an icy "dwarf" world beyond Pluto hints that a much bigger planet may hide even farther out in the dim reaches of the solar system, astronomers suggested on Wednesday."

[link to news.nationalgeographic.com]

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New Dwarf Planet Found At The Solar System's Outer Limits

"In fact, here's something more that Sheppard says was mind-blowing: Biden, Sedna and some other bodies at the edge of the Kuiper belt have a strange similarity in their orbits — one that suggests they're all being influenced by the presence of something big, perhaps an unseen planet that could be up to 10 times the size of Earth."

[link to www.npr.org]

New Object Offers Hint of "Planet X"

[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]

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Does our solar system have a SUPER EARTH? Cluster of rock at its edge hints at existence of an enormous planet

"This suggests that a larger planet, dubbed a Super Earth because of its size, may be creating a shepherding effect pulling these objects around with it.

[link to www.dailymail.co.uk]

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Move over Pluto, there may be a real planet out there

[link to azstarnet.com]

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Astronomers Have Made An Incredible Discovery In The Outer Solar System

[link to www.businessinsider.in]

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Major new dwarf planet discovered

[link to www.astronomy.com]

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Astronomers Announce Huge Discovery About Objects In The Outer Solar System

[link to www.businessinsider.com]

Hey, at least its more interesting that a ring around an asteroid.

I think you posted before me... oops

Thread: PUBLISHED MARCH 26, 2014 New planet discovered in solar system!!

I gave you five stars for beating me and a pin request! Interesting we both have sigh in our monikers....

Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 03/26/2014 08:32 PM

@ Bridge of Sighs

Guess two sighs are better than one.

:-)

Last Edited by sigh on 03/26/2014 08:36 PM

Why yes they are :)
I linked your thread

Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 03/26/2014 08:38 PM

they are talking about something they have not discovered yet. its one theory to explain the orbits of vp113 and sedna but not the only theory. someone else just posted this same lame crap. one possible explanation among dozens of other more likely explanations doesnt equal a discovery of anything. you guys need more fresh air.

Will this new member affect astrology readings?

I beg to differ. Here are the authors:
Chadwick A. Trujillo
Scott S. Sheppard
Nature 507,471–474 (27 March 2014) doi:10.1038/nature13156
Received 11 October 2013
Accepted 10 February 2014
Published online 26 March 2014

Dan Vergano
National Geographic
Published March 26, 2014

Last Edited by Bridge of Sighs on 03/26/2014 08:41 PM

Nibs in the house ?

New Oort cloud discovery renews talk of Planet X

"What's more, their work indicates the potential presence of an enormous planet, perhaps up to 10 times the size of Earth, not yet seen, but possibly influencing the orbit of 2012 VP113, as well as other inner Oort cloud objects."

[link to www.astronomynow.com]

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New dwarf planet at solar system's edge hints at possible 'Planet X'

"Indeed, certain characteristics of the orbits of Sedna, 2012 VP113 and several of the most distant Kuiper Belt objects are consistent with the continued presence of a big and extremely faraway "perturber," researchers said. It's possible that a planet roughly 10 times more massive than Earth located hundreds of AU from the sun is shepherding these bodies into their current orbits."

[link to www.mnn.com]

Welcome to Planet Biden, Literally

“The newfound object’s official name is 2012 VP113, but the discovery team calls it VP for short, or just ‘Biden’ after U.S. Vice President Joe Biden,” according to Nature."

[link to abcnews.go.com]

"This orbital coincidence is what statistically suggests that a bigger planet tugged either long ago or continuously now at these smaller worlds' orbits to keep them clustered together. If the putative bigger planet is still there and is only a few times bigger than Earth, it would circle the sun about 250 times farther away than our planet does. A bigger one would circle even farther away."

Dan Vergano - National Geographic

Differ about what? Are you claiming that they HAVE discovered a 10 earth mass planet in the inner Oort cloud? That isn't what 2012 VP113 is, so you can't appeal to the authors' authority on that. I'm not saying that a super-earth couldn't exist in the Oort cloud, it could, but based on constraints calculated by GLP's favorite astronomer, Lorenzo Iorio (aka Moon eccentricity anomaly man), there are no planets larger than about 0.7 earth masses within about 250-450 AUs.
[link to arxiv.org]
This conflicts with the proposal that a 10 ME object exists at 250 AU, as mentioned here (actually within the paper itself they talk about testing between 2-15 ME, it appears they didn't even test to see if a .7 ME was sufficient and they show that at least 5 ME is sufficient):
[link to www.skyandtelescope.com]
But in the actual paper they emphasize that they are not making a definitive statement about the nature of a potential perturber that is causing the argument of perihelion (w) to cluster, rather they are simply testing whether such a mechanism could retain asymmetric clustering with w clustering around 0 degrees but not 180 degrees. As they state, a more distant perturber could also be the cause.

"We numerically simulated the effect of a super-Earth-mass body at 250 au and found that w for inner Oort cloud objects librated around 0 +/- 60 degrees for billions of years (see Extended Data Figs 2 and 3). This configuration is not unique and there are many possibilities for such an unseen perturber.
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We note that the planet configurations we tested are not unique and there are likely to be many possible orbital patterns for an unseen perturber that could produce a w constraint among the most distant bodies in the Solar System."
(much less than 50% copied from the original Nature paper here: [link to www.nature.com] )

It is a fascinating finding, and certainly supports Gomes hypothetical planet (who was cited today in one of the papers).
[link to adsabs.harvard.edu]

Nevertheless, unlike Iorio's paper, the study was not designed in such a way as to constrain the mass and distance of a putative planet, but rather simply to see if it works as a mechanism of constraining the arguments of perihelion of these objects to a cluster around 0 degrees, and it does.

Last Edited by Astromut on 03/26/2014 10:02 PM

@ Dr. Astro

So you agree that there is evidence of a giant planet, but that there isn't absolute proof. I'll buy that.

New Dwarf Planet Found at Solar System's Edge, Hints at Possible Faraway 'Planet X'

"Such supposition is far from proof that an undiscovered "Planet X" actually exists, Trujillo stressed. But he did say that the door is open, noting that an Earth-mass body at 250 AU from the sun would likely be undetectable at present."

[link to www.space.com]

I'll quote what I've said for years.





Last Edited by Astromut on 03/26/2014 09:57 PM

thanks for post, OP

awesome links, thanks.