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THE UNDERSTANDING I AND THE FATHER ARE ONE

 
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Strange they don't get it!

However, no one knows the day or hour when these things will happen, not even the angels in heaven or the Son himself. Only the Father knows.


When Christ who is not God comes again, the spirit of God the Father will enter in all righteous believers that they will all be like Christ when resurrected and even those who are alive at his coming.

This will complete the network of the oneness spoken of in the bible when Christ said I and my father are one and the same. He prayed also for the disciples in john chapter 17 that they will be one with him and the father as he is one with the father


CHECK THIS OUT BELOW

Romans 8:11

And if the Spirit of Him who raised Jesus from the dead lives in you, then He who raised Christ from the dead will also bring your mortal bodies to life through His Spirit who lives in you.

Were the apostles GOD? are true believers God? was Jesus GOD? NO!


THE BOOK OF JOHN CHAPTER 17

16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.

19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.

20 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word;

21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.


israel111

WHEN DID THEY RECEIVE THE SPIRIT OF THE FATHER AS JESUS PROMISED AND PRAYED FOR THEM


THE BOOK OF ACTS CHAPTER1

8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.

THE BOOK OF ACTS CHAPTER2
1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

yjghf

The same spirit that was in Christ is the same spirit that was given to the apostles...WERE THEY GOD?

No but to whom the knowledge of God/The elohim were given to he called gods/elohims. Peter paul john Moses were called elohims in their time..Jesus was an elohim/god small g not the Elohim

The word god is greek theos deity and when they translated made such a mess and this is why people argue back and forth on this issue.Nobody sits down and take time to ponder and search the scriptures all they want to do is challenge you for debate.



GREATER THINGS THAN CHRIST? ARE THEY BECOME GOD?

Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father





MNEEE


JESUS said
John 5:19 Then answered Jesus and said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, The Son can do nothing of himself, but what he seeth the Father do: for what things soever he doeth, these also doeth the Son likewise.

John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

John 8:28 Then said Jesus unto them, When ye have lifted up the Son of man, then shall ye know that I am he, and that I do nothing of myself; but as my Father hath taught me, I speak these things.

29 And he that sent me is with me: the Father hath not left me alone; for I do always those things that please him.



THE BOOK OF ROMANS CHAPTER 8

But you are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ{THE SPIRIT OF THE WORD}, he is none of his.


NOW I WILL SHOW YOU HOW IT ALL WORKS THE ONENESS.AFTER THE DISCIPLES RECEIVED THE SPIRIT OF GOD THEY HAD POWER TO SPEAK THE WORD OF GOD.THEY PREACHED JESUS "THE WORD" AND ALL HE TAUGHT THEM...THE FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT ALL HAVE THEIR DIFFERENT ROLES IN TRUE BELIEVERS AND ARE SEPARATE UNDER THE RULE OF ONE GOD THE FATHER.THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT AND CHRIST IS NOW THE KING OVER US AND PRINCE IN THE PARADISE TO COME BUT SUBJECT TO THE FATHER.

M,JJK,J

THE BOOK OF ACTS


And when they had prayed, the place was shaken where they were assembled together; and they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and they spake {"THE WORD OF GOD" which was commissioned to Christ also} with boldness.

I leave you now in peace and those who understand the message was for you and I encourage you in the name of the Most High Eh'Yeh Asher Eh'Yeh and his son our King Ya'shah

Let every man be persuaded in his own heart

Last Edited by Neim-Ya'shar on 04/07/2014 09:35 AM
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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JESUS EXPLAINS TO THIS GENTILE WOMAN WHO HE WORSHIPS AND REBUKES HER BECAUSE THEY WERE CALLING ON ANOTHER GOD


Christ said we know what we worship he included himself with his apostles as being subject to God the father.Read on please, for he said as like saying to you today "you know not what you worship"

You who twist the truth be careful!.This is what Christ said salvation is of the Jews, in other words he rebuked the Samaritan woman because he knew that they were not Israelites living in Samaria at that time and were serving a god of no laws.This woman had seven husbands yet saying she was a believer!The inhabitiants of Samaria were gentiles who replaced the children of Israel.Yet Chrsit in his mercy taught the true gospel to the gentile nation.

BOOK OF KINGS CHAPTER 17.

4 And the king of Assyria brought men from Babylon, and from Cuthah, and from Ava, and from Hamath, and from Sepharvaim, and placed them in the cities of Samaria instead of the children of Israel: and they possessed Samaria, and dwelt in the cities thereof.
25 And so it was at the beginning of their dwelling there,


The same thing he is saying it to gentile nations today who swing the truth and call on your own image of God. Christ said "He who worships the father are the true worshippers"




JOHN CHAPTER 4

1 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.

22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.

23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.

YOU KEEP DENYING THE HEAVENLY FATHER AND NOT GIVING HIM THE HONOR DUE TO HIM! YOU WILL ALL BE ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE THE WORD WAS SHOWN TO YOU.CHRIST IS THE WORD OF GOD AND YET YOU FIGHT AGAINST THE WORDS HE SPOKE

moses

Emanuel!... "like God be with us"..God manifested himself through christ--How? Read the scripture Revealed to Moses
Deut chp 18

I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Acts 3:22

19And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

Acts 3:23

You all think this is funny or some monkey business. I warn you stiffnecked for the last time. look again at the scriptures.YOU DO NOT LIKE ME FINE BUT LOOK AT THE WORD..TEST ALL THAT WAS WRITTEN

M,JJK,J

Manifest in the Flesh God manifested himself in all the prophets Ezekiel Isaiah all spoke at times in the first person. Paul the apostle confirms this that God manifested himself and in them and it was by his power they did miracles


2 Peter 1:21

21 For no prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

THE SAME SPIRIT THAT WAS IN CHRIST AND AT TIMES HE SPOKE IN THE FIRST PERSON

I HAVE MORE!

Hebrews 1:1

The Supremacy of God’s Son
1 Long ago, at many times and ain many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets,

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Peace to you and blessings brother Neim-Ya'shar
I wish to post the passage I was reding right before I saw your thread.

Colossians
Chapter 3

1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
5 ¶Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
18 ¶Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
 Quoting: Colossians
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Many of you see the scriptures and your hearts are so twisted you reject it for your traditions.I warn you before you argue read and study
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Peace to you and blessings brother Neim-Ya'shar
I wish to post the passage I was reding right before I saw your thread.

Colossians
Chapter 3

1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
5 ¶Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
18 ¶Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
 Quoting: Colossians

 Quoting: Marco Israel


I thank you for that and it was timely because there are things I am dealing with a certain sin and I see it right in there..thank you
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Jesus christ is God in the flesh, God has three parts Father(creator), Son(Jesus Christ) and Holy Spirit(spirit of them both)

1 John 3:9 KJV
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
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Peace to you and blessings brother Neim-Ya'shar
I wish to post the passage I was reding right before I saw your thread.

Colossians
Chapter 3

1 If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God.
2 Set your affection on things above, not on things on the earth.
3 For ye are dead, and your life is hid with Christ in God.
4 When Christ, who is our life, shall appear, then shall ye also appear with him in glory.
5 ¶Mortify therefore your members which are upon the earth; fornication, uncleanness, inordinate affection, evil concupiscence, and covetousness, which is idolatry:
6 For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:
7 In the which ye also walked some time, when ye lived in them.
8 But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.
9 Lie not one to another, seeing that ye have put off the old man with his deeds;
10 And have put on the new man, which is renewed in knowledge after the image of him that created him:
11 Where there is neither Greek nor Jew, circumcision nor uncircumcision, Barbarian, Scythian, bond nor free: but Christ is all, and in all.
12 Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering;
13 Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye.
14 And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness.
15 And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.
16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.
17 And whatsoever ye do in word or deed, do all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God and the Father by him.
18 ¶Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
19 Husbands, love your wives, and be not bitter against them.
20 Children, obey your parents in all things: for this is well pleasing unto the Lord.
21 Fathers, provoke not your children to anger, lest they be discouraged.
22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh; not with eyeservice, as menpleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for ye serve the Lord Christ.
25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
 Quoting: Colossians

 Quoting: Marco Israel


I thank you for that and it was timely because there are things I am dealing with a certain sin and I see it right in there..thank you
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


Thank you also your posts always have me reading scriptures :),
we are to be tried as in a furnace.


1 Peter 4:12
¶Beloved, think it not strange concerning the fiery trial which is to try you, as though some strange thing happened unto you:

Zechariah
Chapter 13

And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.
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And The Word BECAME Flesh....

Meaning it was not flesh before this event.

The word was in Genesis : "And God SAID "Let there be light".

And the word came unto Jeremiah...

We see The word in the NT also when it said to Peter "rise and eat"...


The word is not the bible...They are different.

The bible is the words of God.


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Jesus christ is God in the flesh, God has three parts Father(creator), Son(Jesus Christ) and Holy Spirit(spirit of them both)

1 John 3:9 KJV
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1544280


John 1:1 KJV
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jesus is the Word of God
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And The Word BECAME Flesh....

Meaning it was not flesh before this event.
 Quoting: rod777


exactly but a spirit
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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I am not against the scriptures....I Love them, I am just drawing the same distinction the bible makes...



And The Word BECAME Flesh....

Meaning it was not flesh before this event.

The word was in Genesis : "And God SAID "Let there be light".

And the word came unto Jeremiah...

We see The word in the NT also when it said to Peter "rise and eat"...


The word is not the bible...They are different.

The bible is the words of God.

 Quoting: rod777
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Jesus christ is God in the flesh, God has three parts Father(creator), Son(Jesus Christ) and Holy Spirit(spirit of them both)

1 John 3:9 KJV
[9] Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1544280


John 1:1 KJV
[1] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Jesus is the Word of God
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1544280


exactly and then the word was made flesh abd lived amongst man. He came to preach and teach and to bear witness of his father
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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"A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

Psalm 110:1
Genesis-Acts,Hebrews-Revelation to, you know who
Romans-Philemon to the Church
Mid-Acts Pauline Dispensational Right Division
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And The Word BECAME Flesh....

Meaning it was not flesh before this event.

The word was in Genesis : "And God SAID "Let there be light".

And the word came unto Jeremiah...

We see The word in the NT also when it said to Peter "rise and eat"...


The word is not the bible...They are different.

The bible is the words of God.

 Quoting: rod777


the bible is a complilation of some of the holy writings and others are taken out for what ever reason.The word is the message from the holy father which includes the bible and all other documents holy which were hidden from us
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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"A Psalm of David. The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool."

Psalm 110:1
 Quoting: javierruizleon


who is sitting at the right hand of the father in heaven?

who is interceeding to the father for our sin in the heavens?

who is the only mediator between GOD AND MAN?

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You know the reason why the Lord thy God handed Moses the ten commandment and said I am the Lord your God and you shall have no other? So that people like you didnt get it confused in the future but since you deny Gods first and most important commandment and Jesus himself is the only Lord of Lords Every point you make is invalid
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You know the reason why the Lord thy God handed Moses the ten commandment and said I am the Lord your God and you shall have no other? So that people like you didnt get it confused in the future but since you deny Gods first and most important commandment and Jesus himself is the only Lord of Lords Every point you make is invalid
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Ok bye that was refreshing
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Titus 2:13 - Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Colossians 1:16 - For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Revelation 1:8 - I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
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One means one not two....I guess you never passed kindergarten math
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1 Timothy 3:16 - And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

Titus 2:13 - Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;

Colossians 1:16 - For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

Revelation 1:8 - I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54594978


manifest in the fleah God manifested himself in all the prophets Ezekiel Isaiah all spoke at times in the first person. Paul the apostle confirms this that God manifested himself and in them and it was by his power they did miracles

Rom 3:22

But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;


Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for ther
e is no difference:



2 Peter 1:21

21 For kno prophecy was ever produced by the will of man, but men spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.

THE SAME SPIRIT THAT WAS IN CHRIST AND AT TIMES HE SPOKE IN THE FIRST PERSON

I HAVE MORE!




Hebrews 1:1

The Supremacy of God’s Son

1 Long ago, at many times and ain many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets,

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You know the reason why the Lord thy God handed Moses the ten commandment and said I am the Lord your God and you shall have no other? So that people like you didnt get it confused in the future but since you deny Gods first and most important commandment and Jesus himself is the only Lord of Lords Every point you make is invalid
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56515087


Ok bye that was refreshing
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Why do to you always block people who make a valid point ? ?
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NO I BLOCK IDOTS TROLLING
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior."

Acts 4:12 - “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Zech 12:10
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications:

and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced,

and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
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Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior."

Acts 4:12 - “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Zech 12:10
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications:

and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced,

and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
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Agreed but you do not understand it so I will explain it with the same scriptures I showed in the thread.

God the father is saying he will pour out his spirit on all men ...same as pentecost because christ prayed the father that they will be one with him and the father as he is one.


2 THERE IS NO OTHER SAVIOR GOD THE FATHER IS OUR SAVIOR HE WAS THE ONE WHO DECIDED TO TO SEND THE WORD IN THE FLESH IN ORRER TO SAVE ISRAEL...GO TO LUKE CHAPTER ONE THE ANGEL GABRIEL BROUGHT THE TIDINGS TO MARY..


THERE IS NO OTHER NAME THAT MAN WILL BE SAVED IS THE DAY WILL COME WHEN THE TRU NAME OF THE FATHER WILL BE REVEALED AGAIN TO THE CHILDREN OF isRAEL AND THEY WILL CALL UPON HIM

Let me get that scripture for you also..I am not yelling by the way typing fast to keep up saps was on
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Neim, the scriptures speak for themselves. Both the Old Testament and the New Testament. It doesn't need rationalization or "help"

Use this opportunity to accept edification from your friends. Iron sharpens irons type of thing, you know?
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Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior."

Acts 4:12 - “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Zech 12:10
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications:

and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced,

and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54594978


Agreed but you do not understand it so I will explain it with the same scriptures I showed in the thread.

God the father is saying he will pour out his spirit on all men ...same as pentecost because christ prayed the father that they will be one with him and the father as he is one.

1 Men will look upon the one they pieced jesus because he is coming for war and if you go back to tje thread I expalined the process



2 THERE IS NO OTHER SAVIOR GOD THE FATHER IS OUR SAVIOR HE WAS THE ONE WHO DECIDED TO TO SEND THE WORD IN THE FLESH IN ORRER TO SAVE ISRAEL...GO TO LUKE CHAPTER ONE THE ANGEL GABRIEL BROUGHT THE TIDINGS TO MARY..


THERE IS NO OTHER NAME THAT MAN WILL BE SAVED IS THE DAY WILL COME WHEN THE TRU NAME OF THE FATHER WILL BE REVEALED AGAIN TO THE CHILDREN OF isRAEL AND THEY WILL CALL UPON HIM

Let me get that scripture for you also..I am not yelling by the way typing fast to keep up saps was on
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



JOEL 2:32
And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the LORD has said, even among the survivors whom the LORD calls.

That is where paul quoted from..people keep forgeting that these men used the old testament for teaching the israelites who were lost..This is referring to the Father NOT Jesus

Now the question is did the old testament make a distintion between father and son? yes it did

proverbs 30 verse 4

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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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Isaiah 43:10,11 - “You are My witnesses,” says the Lord, “And My servant whom I have chosen, That you may know and believe Me, and understand that I am He. Before Me there was no God formed, Nor shall there be after Me. I, even I, am the Lord, and besides Me there is no Savior."

Acts 4:12 - “Nor is there salvation in any other, for there is no other name under heaven given among men by which we must be saved.”

Zech 12:10
And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications:

and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced,

and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 54594978


Agreed but you do not understand it so I will explain it with the same scriptures I showed in the thread.

God the father is saying he will pour out his spirit on all men ...same as pentecost because christ prayed the father that they will be one with him and the father as he is one.

1 Men will look upon the one they pieced jesus because he is coming for war and if you go back to tje thread I expalined the process



2 THERE IS NO OTHER SAVIOR GOD THE FATHER IS OUR SAVIOR HE WAS THE ONE WHO DECIDED TO TO SEND THE WORD IN THE FLESH IN ORRER TO SAVE ISRAEL...GO TO LUKE CHAPTER ONE THE ANGEL GABRIEL BROUGHT THE TIDINGS TO MARY..


THERE IS NO OTHER NAME THAT MAN WILL BE SAVED IS THE DAY WILL COME WHEN THE TRU NAME OF THE FATHER WILL BE REVEALED AGAIN TO THE CHILDREN OF isRAEL AND THEY WILL CALL UPON HIM

Let me get that scripture for you also..I am not yelling by the way typing fast to keep up saps was on
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar



JOEL 2:32
And everyone who calls on the name of the LORD will be saved; for on Mount Zion and in Jerusalem there will be deliverance, as the LORD has said, even among the survivors whom the LORD calls.

That is where paul quoted from..people keep forgeting that these men used the old testament for teaching the israelites who were lost..This is referring to the Father NOT Jesus

Now the question is did the old testament make a distintion between father and son? yes it did

proverbs 30 verse 4
 Quoting: Neim-Ya'shar


In that day the believers will no longer call on LORD which in reality is master for baal gotten from babylon,We use it in the translations because it was falsely written

hosea
And it shall be at that day, says the LORD, that you shall call me Ishi; and shall call me no more Baali.
1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
:knoup:
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Farewell American Samoa, the "last stop of today and just a stones throw from tomorrow"and with that said and done I stood up, standing at the end of the day and walked boldly onward into tomorrow and to the given day of rest.
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Paul says sin or the behaviors we call sin are in the flesh, that is why Jesus had to come in flesh and was nailed to a tree.

Sin doesn't work in the new mode of transportation that God uses which is the born again spirit.

Romans explains this in great detail.

Paul's experience of going through Romans 6, 7, and 8 revealed this to him.

God worked with the flesh (man) for 4,000 yrs and then said enough.

the first Adam sinned in the flesh, Jesus the second Adam died in the flesh, and God moved onto the new creation.


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Paul says sin or the behaviors we call sin are in the flesh, that is why Jesus had to come in flesh and was nailed to a tree.

Sin doesn't work in the new mode of transportation that God uses which is the born again spirit.

Romans explains this in great detail.

Paul's experience of going through Romans 6, 7, and 8 revealed this to him.

God worked with the flesh (man) for 4,000 yrs and then said enough.

the first Adam sinned in the flesh, Jesus the second Adam died in the flesh, and God moved onto the new creation.

 Quoting: rod777


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1 But these took this counsel among themselves, that they would leave the multitude of the heathen, and go forth into a further country, where never mankind dwelt,
42 That they might there keep their statutes, which they never kept in their own land.
43 And they entered into Euphrates by the narrow places of the river.
44 For the most High then shewed signs for them, and held still the flood, till they were passed over.
45 For through that country there was a great way to go, namely, of a year and a half: and the same region is called Arsareth.
46 Then dwelt they there until the latter time; and now when they shall begin to come,
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You said it. You are out in the open. And know that you have denied the deity of Christ. You and the traditional Christian church are not of the same path or "way". JW and Christianity are not worshiping the same God.

We believe Yeshua is God in the flesh. You believe He is a created being (angel).

The cards are on the table and it will be a sad day for both of us when we stand before Christ since those that do no believe he is I Am will die in their sins as He said.

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Govt (CIA/Army/Navy/KGB) docs in “Government Documents Admit Flat Earth” [link to youtu.be (secure)]

Globbers look up in trying to prove the world is a globe. They should be looking down at the Earth they stand on.

How stars work in the FE model: [link to www.bitchute.com (secure)]
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You know the reason why the Lord thy God handed Moses the ten commandment and said I am the Lord your God and you shall have no other? So that people like you didnt get it confused in the future but since you deny Gods first and most important commandment and Jesus himself is the only Lord of Lords Every point you make is invalid
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Ok bye that was refreshing
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If Jesus is Lord of Lords, is he then also Lord of God?

God is the Most High, nothing is above Him, and there is only one God.

If Jesus was God made flesh, and Jesus died, who raised him from the dead then three days later? It clearly states God did? God raised Jesus from the dead, like with anybody.

O precious God still mysterious to myself, deliver me your spirit.





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