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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 47656070 ![]() 04/07/2014 03:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nah otherwise this would be classified and we would never know. The are probably expending more energy to make it then is returned but it allows them to gain a tactical advantage and not have ships have to use fueling tankers constantly. The Navy would not care about the excess cost as the tactical advantage would outweigh the cost. Besides they will never tell us how they are doing OR perhaps this is propaganda for the enemy to digest. |
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ThesonofhendriX User ID: 45455788 ![]() 04/07/2014 03:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who would of thunk it? Quoting: Bear Drinker Seawater can now be converted into a hydrocarbon fuel. I would like to know the process behind it. For example does it require more energy to create a gallon of fuel than the gallon of fuel produced? If so then there will be no mainstream adoption of it, like the oil companies would allow that anyway. [link to news.yahoo.com] If its a good electrolysis setup, then no it takes far less energy to unlock the hydrogen fuel from the seawater. They have a range of free energy sources to draw from, wave power, wind power, solar. Life is a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. |
SnakeAirlines User ID: 56538971 ![]() 04/07/2014 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are using a nuke plant to generate electricity to then break down water into H and O2... Great idea... Now all we need is a mini nuke in our cars! ![]() "Hold my cat while I bring in my tomato plant. That chemtrail looks like an earthquake chemtrail" deanoZXT-07/20/2014 07:48 PM |
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ThesonofhendriX User ID: 45455788 ![]() 04/07/2014 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It appears to be more than just electrolysis. Either way it should eventually trickle down to civilian use which would be a huge kick in the balls for the oil corporations. But i can't see the oil corps giving in that easily, so expect this technology to be shelved, or its scientist die in an unfortunate accident. Life is a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 54054988 ![]() 04/07/2014 04:40 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are using a nuke plant to generate electricity to then break down water into H and O2... Quoting: SnakeAirlines Great idea... Now all we need is a mini nuke in our cars! ![]() Exactly. Government research programs are allowed absolutely bizarre assumptions, to largely prove out existing tech and call it a break through. All paid for by the IRS pointing a 14th century technology (gun) in a persons face. Anytime somebody says there is free energy from common items and formulas that a 10th grader can understand, it ain't true folks. If we did not already have crude oil, the gov would have an experiment like this: Navy researchers have discovered that millions of years of pressure on trillions of tons of bio-mass can produce a molecules called "hydrocarbons" These advanced hydrocarbons could then be used in a combustion motor. Which would be a vast improvement over the systems we use now, which is a large captive whale breeding pool towed by the ship, which is pulled along by hot air baloons with sails, the burners powered on whale oil. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 56541038 ![]() 04/07/2014 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who would of thunk it? Quoting: Bear Drinker Seawater can now be converted into a hydrocarbon fuel. I would like to know the process behind it. For example does it require more energy to create a gallon of fuel than the gallon of fuel produced? If so then there will be no mainstream adoption of it, like the oil companies would allow that anyway. [link to news.yahoo.com] nothing is new, this will only work on big Nuclear powered aircraft carries. what do they is use the nuke power to split the water into HHO GAS, they cool the HHO gas and turn store it on mini LNG tanks. this way, they claim it says Nuke Fuel 10% less fuel is used and wasted |
bvndy User ID: 27237800 ![]() 04/07/2014 04:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | article is misleading, doesn't tell you it takes more energy to make the fuel than it creates. Quoting: lux 26548753 In a war situation that is hardly meaningfull. A warship powered by a nuke pile could make hydrogen from seawater, for helicopters and the like. Jerry Pournell said it well, "ONCE YOU HAVE ENOUGH POWER, YOU CAN LIVE ON DIRT" You can ignore the consequences of your actions, but you cannot ignore the RESULTS of the consequences of your actions Ayn Rand |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 32069520 ![]() 04/07/2014 04:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.nrl.navy.mil] From Seawater to CO2 Scientists at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory are developing a process to extract carbon dioxide (CO2) and produce hydrogen gas (H2) from seawater, subsequently catalytically converting the CO2 and H2 into jet fuel by a gas-to-liquids process. "The potential payoff is the ability to produce JP-5 fuel stock at sea reducing the logistics tail on fuel delivery with no environmental burden and increasing the Navy's energy security and independence," says research chemist, Dr. Heather Willauer. NRL has successfully developed and demonstrated technologies for the recovery of CO2 and the production of H2 from seawater using an electrochemical acidification cell, and the conversion of CO2 and H2 to hydrocarbons (organic compounds consisting of hydrogen and carbon) that can be used to produce jet fuel. "The reduction and hydrogenation of CO2 to form hydrocarbons is accomplished using a catalyst that is similar to those used for Fischer-Tropsch reduction and hydrogenation of carbon monoxide," adds Willauer. "By modifying the surface composition of iron catalysts in fixed-bed reactors, NRL has successfully improved CO2 conversion efficiencies up to 60 percent." - See more at: [link to www.nrl.navy.mil] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30334082 ![]() 04/07/2014 05:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nah otherwise this would be classified and we would never know. The are probably expending more energy to make it then is returned but it allows them to gain a tactical advantage and not have ships have to use fueling tankers constantly. The Navy would not care about the excess cost as the tactical advantage would outweigh the cost. Besides they will never tell us how they are doing OR perhaps this is propaganda for the enemy to digest. About 8 years ago, there were vids and articles on the 'net about a guy running a speed boat with salt water. Detailed videos of the process were online showing how one could repeat the experiment. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 30334082 ![]() 04/07/2014 05:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They are using a nuke plant to generate electricity to then break down water into H and O2... Quoting: SnakeAirlines Great idea... Now all we need is a mini nuke in our cars! ![]() No, we don't need a nuke plant to break down the water molecules. The purpose of the nukes is to produce nuclear water for warheads. |
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