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US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel

 
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US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
Who would of thunk it?

Seawater can now be converted into a hydrocarbon fuel. I would like to know the process behind it. For example does it require more energy to create a gallon of fuel than the gallon of fuel produced?

If so then there will be no mainstream adoption of it, like the oil companies would allow that anyway.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
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This is real folks. Seawater converted to a hydrocarbon.
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I bet beg oil shit pants
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I bet beg oil shit pants
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Nah otherwise this would be classified and we would never know. The are probably expending more energy to make it then is returned but it allows them to gain a tactical advantage and not have ships have to use fueling tankers constantly. The Navy would not care about the excess cost as the tactical advantage would outweigh the cost.

Besides they will never tell us how they are doing OR perhaps this is propaganda for the enemy to digest.
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
You put the lime in the coconut...

And boom! You have fuel.
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
Who would of thunk it?

Seawater can now be converted into a hydrocarbon fuel. I would like to know the process behind it. For example does it require more energy to create a gallon of fuel than the gallon of fuel produced?

If so then there will be no mainstream adoption of it, like the oil companies would allow that anyway.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Bear Drinker


If its a good electrolysis setup, then no it takes far less energy to unlock the hydrogen fuel from the seawater.

They have a range of free energy sources to draw from, wave power, wind power, solar.
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
They are using a nuke plant to generate electricity to then break down water into H and O2...

Great idea...

Now all we need is a mini nuke in our cars!

yawn
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
They are using a nuke plant to generate electricity to then break down water into H and O2...

Great idea...

Now all we need is a mini nuke in our cars!

yawn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


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OHhhhh...

The old CO2 and H from seawater and then chemically combined trick...

Yeah...

That will work...

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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
It appears to be more than just electrolysis. Either way it should eventually trickle down to civilian use which would be a huge kick in the balls for the oil corporations.

But i can't see the oil corps giving in that easily, so expect this technology to be shelved, or its scientist die in an unfortunate accident.
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Last Edited by Agent Smith 2014 on 04/07/2014 03:53 PM
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
Figures...this is released right after Google bought
the rights to all the seawater on the planet.
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Figures...this is released right after Google bought
the rights to all the seawater on the planet.
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it did?????????????
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Figures...this is released right after Google bought
the rights to all the seawater on the planet.
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:whatifwat:
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
They are using a nuke plant to generate electricity to then break down water into H and O2...

Great idea...

Now all we need is a mini nuke in our cars!

yawn
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Life is a dream and we are the imagination of ourselves.
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
They are using a nuke plant to generate electricity to then break down water into H and O2...

Great idea...

Now all we need is a mini nuke in our cars!

yawn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines



 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18708466


This was cool and nice to see Lazar.
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
article is misleading, doesn't tell you it takes more energy to make the fuel than it creates.
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wow seriously this is not new.... Ohio Class boomers been doing this for year....Fricken YEars
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
They are using a nuke plant to generate electricity to then break down water into H and O2...

Great idea...

Now all we need is a mini nuke in our cars!

yawn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


Exactly. Government research programs are allowed absolutely bizarre assumptions, to largely prove out existing tech and call it a break through. All paid for by the IRS pointing a 14th century technology (gun) in a persons face. Anytime somebody says there is free energy from common items and formulas that a 10th grader can understand, it ain't true folks.

If we did not already have crude oil, the gov would have an experiment like this:

Navy researchers have discovered that millions of years of pressure on trillions of tons of bio-mass can produce a molecules called "hydrocarbons" These advanced hydrocarbons could then be used in a combustion motor. Which would be a vast improvement over the systems we use now, which is a large captive whale breeding pool towed by the ship, which is pulled along by hot air baloons with sails, the burners powered on whale oil.
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
Who would of thunk it?

Seawater can now be converted into a hydrocarbon fuel. I would like to know the process behind it. For example does it require more energy to create a gallon of fuel than the gallon of fuel produced?

If so then there will be no mainstream adoption of it, like the oil companies would allow that anyway.

[link to news.yahoo.com]
 Quoting: Bear Drinker


nothing is new, this will only work on big Nuclear powered aircraft carries.


what do they is use the nuke power to split the water into HHO GAS, they cool the HHO gas and turn store it on mini LNG tanks.

this way, they claim it says Nuke Fuel 10% less fuel is used and wasted
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
article is misleading, doesn't tell you it takes more energy to make the fuel than it creates.
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In a war situation that is hardly meaningfull.
A warship powered by a nuke pile could make hydrogen from seawater, for helicopters and the like.
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[link to www.breitbart.com]

Saw this. Hmm... Interesting to see what exactly they have...
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
[link to www.nrl.navy.mil]

From Seawater to CO2 Scientists at the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory are developing a process to extract carbon dioxide (CO2) and produce hydrogen gas (H2) from seawater, subsequently catalytically converting the CO2 and H2 into jet fuel by a gas-to-liquids process.

"The potential payoff is the ability to produce JP-5 fuel stock at sea reducing the logistics tail on fuel delivery with no environmental burden and increasing the Navy's energy security and independence," says research chemist, Dr. Heather Willauer.

NRL has successfully developed and demonstrated technologies for the recovery of CO2 and the production of H2 from seawater using an electrochemical acidification cell, and the conversion of CO2 and H2 to hydrocarbons (organic compounds consisting of hydrogen and carbon) that can be used to produce jet fuel.

"The reduction and hydrogenation of CO2 to form hydrocarbons is accomplished using a catalyst that is similar to those used for Fischer-Tropsch reduction and hydrogenation of carbon monoxide," adds Willauer. "By modifying the surface composition of iron catalysts in fixed-bed reactors, NRL has successfully improved CO2 conversion efficiencies up to 60 percent." - See more at: [link to www.nrl.navy.mil]
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
ah the old browns gas trick, makes a good jewelers torch.
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
I bet beg oil shit pants
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36131128


Nah otherwise this would be classified and we would never know. The are probably expending more energy to make it then is returned but it allows them to gain a tactical advantage and not have ships have to use fueling tankers constantly. The Navy would not care about the excess cost as the tactical advantage would outweigh the cost.

Besides they will never tell us how they are doing OR perhaps this is propaganda for the enemy to digest.
 Quoting: Bear Drinker



About 8 years ago, there were vids and articles on the 'net about a guy running a speed boat with salt water. Detailed videos of the process were online showing how one could repeat the experiment.
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
I'm sure it works with pacific ocean water cause of all the nuclear waste in it is combustible
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
They are using a nuke plant to generate electricity to then break down water into H and O2...

Great idea...

Now all we need is a mini nuke in our cars!

yawn
 Quoting: SnakeAirlines


No, we don't need a nuke plant to break down the water molecules. The purpose of the nukes is to produce nuclear water for warheads.
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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
What's new in this???

Look here...

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Re: US Navy 'game-changer': converting seawater into fuel
Dr. Heather Willauer of the NRL describes her team's success at using nuclear heat to manufacture synthetic jet fuel from seawater. Amazing technology!


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warm and fuzzy
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