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WHY BUNDY IS HOLDING OUT

 
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WHY BUNDY IS HOLDING OUT
YOU YANKS NEED TO STAND BUY THIS MAN OR YOU ALL WILL LOSE ALL YOU HAVE

Love the quotes at the end


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Mike Combs By SHIREE BUNDY COX:

I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the servival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money's against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they're own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren't doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn't work, they used the indangered species card. You've already heard about the desert tortis. Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now their desperate. It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America. Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" Well, I'll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it's Utah's turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.
Then there's the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn't paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even exsisted. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad's signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are?
Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks
[/quote

Good summation here^^ Thanks.
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Amen
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Bundy is a giant baby whiner.
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whatever
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YOU YANKS NEED TO STAND BUY THIS MAN OR YOU ALL WILL LOSE ALL YOU HAVE

Love the quotes at the end


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Mike Combs By SHIREE BUNDY COX:

I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight. Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to it, but here it s in a nut shell. My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the servival of their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use to pay the BLM wages and to help with repaires and improvements of the ranches. My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using these money's against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the ranchers in the area out with they're own grazing fees. When they offered to buy my dad out for a penence he said no thanks and then fired them because they weren't doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn't work, they used the indangered species card. You've already heard about the desert tortis. Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now their desperate. It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of America. Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" Well, I'll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it's Utah's turn. Mark my words, Utah is next.
Then there's the issue of the cattle that are at this moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn't paid them, those cattle do belong to him. Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even exsisted. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad's signature on it. They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Aucion and sell them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax dollars. See how slick they are?
Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks
[/quote

Good summation here^^ Thanks.
Real Eyes, Realize, Real Lies
~U.R.~

Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.
~H. L. Mencken~

We can easily forgive a child who is afraid of the dark; the real tragedy of life is when men are afraid of the light.
~Plato~

When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations,
the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic.
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thanks for posting

all i was hearing was that it was the feds land and it was fed/state issue but it's the 'slickness' nudging out issue.

if they've been maintaining the roads and using the land all of this time i don't see how they can go back before 1877 or whenever it was to make a point.
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When greed, corruption and selfishness over-rides the world, we are close to the only thing all religions agree on....the "endtimes" are near.

It will takes the people to get together and uphold The 2nd amendment to have the power over this corporation.
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Tried to pin but too many green karma pins right now. Hopefully a MOD will super pin this.
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about time someone posted something i can actually read
instead of another youtube video.

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No idea.
Free ranging is long dead with the advent of private property.
The law....spanning back to the 1800's is not in his side.

This movie was about that.

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No idea.
Free ranging is long dead with the advent of private property.
The law....spanning back to the 1800's is not in his side.

This movie was about that.


 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


He was not 'free-ranging'
The land was 3rd generation owned
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No idea.
Free ranging is long dead with the advent of private property.
The law....spanning back to the 1800's is not in his side.

This movie was about that.


 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


No. It's not a matter of free grazing on privately owned property.

The land is public land. The family has been grazing that land for over a century.

The Feds have no claim to public property. It all comes down to States rights and the heavyhandedness of the Feds.
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Together there is strength
The people MUST join. they will always try to divide and conquer
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WHY BUNDY IS HOLDING OUT
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17395006


No idea.
Free ranging is long dead with the advent of private property.
The law....spanning back to the 1800's is not in his side.

This movie was about that.


 Quoting: Useless Cookie Eater


He was not 'free-ranging'
The land was 3rd generation owned
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17395006


Nope...it was free ranging from everything I have heard and seen.
He could have paid to keep ranging but refused.

It's not his privately deeded land.
If you have proof otherwise...post it.

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Together there is strength
The people MUST join. they will always try to divide and conquer
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lol you make me laugh.

fat yanks won't do anything except each moar cheeseburgers.
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Finally a coherent explanation of at least one side of this. Thanks for giving me an idea what this is all about. 5*
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What do you do when the BLM refuses your lease payment?
And it is not like leasing a house, it is like a 99 yr. lease it is transferable, inheritable, deeded, and the way the gov. has leased land for a long time. They are not supposed to be able to refuse your payments because all of a sudden they want the rights that they deeded away back.
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Just saw this on Twitter...

President Obama says its alright to pick on a 60 yr old rancher" in Nevada but don't pick on illegal immigrants" they have more rights"
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Bundy is a giant baby whiner.
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And your French.....nobody in the entire world gives two shits about the French.....pussy's every one
"If we [FBI] recommend [idicting], we literally hand over documentation implying the entire government is involved in treason at the highest levels and everyone is about to duck and cover, as well as some sensitive details of SAPs which would obliterate national security."


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Bundy is a giant baby whiner.
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You've already handed your country over to radical muslim immigrants. And your economy is teetering on collapse.

You mad?
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Bundy is a giant baby whiner.
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You're a Frenchman. Go eat some Freedom Fires with mayonnaise and eat some cheese with your whine.
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Bundy is a giant baby whiner.
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wave the WHITE FLAG & gather the bread, the FRENCH COWARD has spoken
lmao
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Another post from her:

Attention all people friends and family and Facebook world....
The Bundy Family has requested help from militia groups including Operation Mutual Aid, 3 Percenters club, freedom fighters and other like operations to come and stand with us and regain our rights and freedoms.

The Bundy Family is greatfull and overwhelmed with the support of millions of people from around the country. Thank you. We would like to remind all of you that we want our stand for liberty and freedom to remain peaceful. We requested and asked, for people to come and stand by us. Let America know that we the people are standing up for their rights.
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Another post from her:

Attention all people friends and family and Facebook world....
The Bundy Family has requested help from militia groups including Operation Mutual Aid, 3 Percenters club, freedom fighters and other like operations to come and stand with us and regain our rights and freedoms.

The Bundy Family is greatfull and overwhelmed with the support of millions of people from around the country. Thank you. We would like to remind all of you that we want our stand for liberty and freedom to remain peaceful. We requested and asked, for people to come and stand by us. Let America know that we the people are standing up for their rights.

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Hell yeah, this is the REAL Government, The PEOPLE who choose to govern themselves.

Stand up, make it right!

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