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Christ will get you to heaven and that is it, no other way but through Christ.

 
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And the Romans used him as the basis for Paul of Tarsus and John of The Revelation as well/ Apollonius traveled all over and wrote letters to his followers, which were adapted to become Paul's. The hoax goes very very deep. Many books and libraries were burned to cover it up.
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I know some of you think you are so clever and above all us minions and you are so superior. Well I can tell you we were all born to live forever and you can't deny that. You are here on earth to establish where you will spend eternity in hell or Heaven, but even if you don't like it you will live for ever. I read some of your comments and I can feel you haven't lived very long, you are still into your own self and to heck with all the logic that actually could save your sole. You mock GOD and you put down people like myself that really do care about you, and you prefer to ridicule and bad mouth Christians to promote satan. There is only two ways to go period, yes it is a battle of good and evil and by your own comments you can see which side you are on . Well you better be right eternity is a long time. You rank down church I guess because you are so far above it, it sounds like you are all with oprah and new age, she says you all can become gods it is all inside you, I suggest you couldn't be farther from the truth and yes you can say all the bad stuff, and in your mind look good to all who agree with you, but GOD will take you out and that is a fact. So Happy Easter and see you on the other side soon. If you make it.
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Quite. I just don't get why so many christians seem to be so arrogant as to think that what they happen to believe is categorically true (leaving aside the nonsensical nature of their belief, the lack of evidence, and the character assassination of anyone who disagrees). I've met some real christians, and they can be genuinely good people, the same as most buddhists, jains, hindus and so on. But folks like this? They've got a long way to go.
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it's not even celebrated on the correct day.

Eashua was born Sept 23, 4 BC

Christmas in December is a pagan ritual
based upon the winter solstice
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Proof????

Or have you just read this from some sh1te researcher and damned it to be truth??
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the info came directly from the Vatican

however consider the source
may not be factual
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Hahahaha...How do you know the Vatican isn't corrupt??

It quite clearly states in the Bible that God's churches will become infested by Satan's minions, you should know this if you have read Scripture!
What if this is Satan's doing to make people think that Jesus's Birth date is in fact a farce and lie??

Sounds pretty devious to me! And you believe it lol
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Jesus Christ FLESH BODY was born on September 29; The Holy Spirit of CHRIST entered the Embryo of Mary upon CONCEPTION, December 25....that is the birth we celebrate...because this is when the HOLY SPIRIT walked on the earth....proof Read Luke Chapter 1 through Chapter 3 tells you all about the dates.

Things you must know....Zacharias, husband of Elizabeth who was the cousin of Mary, was told by GABRIEL, Elizabeth would conceive...Elizabeth was very old, way beyond the age of child barring and Zacharias doubted Gabriel, so Gabriel took his voice.....(until John was born)...Zacharias was of the tribe of Judah, a priest, they had 24 courses to attend every year, Zacharias had to attend the course of Abia...which was always in June 13-20th....June 20th Zacharias had to walk home...40-50 miles...a 2-3 day walk....which would be June 23 when he got home...It's believed Elizabeth conceived by June 24th....if you read further in LUKE...GABRIEL appeared to Mary the early A.M.hours of June 25th and told her God Almighty/Christ's spirit would come upon her and she would bare HIS child, and he would be called Emmanuel (God With US)....it happened, at daylight, Mary ran to Elizabeth WHO WAS 6 MONTHS PREGNANT...so we KNOW it was DECEMBER 25, when the Holy Spirit began to walk the earth...because the Holy Spirit touched Elizabeth and the babe in her womb LEPT...when the Holy Spirit filled John the Baptist, the child Elizabeth would bare....

THAT IS WHY WE CELEBRATE DECEMBER 25TH....

AND IS THE REASON FOR THE CHRISTMAS TREE...A FIR TREE WHICH IS THE TREE OF LEBANON...Garden of Eden this tree presents God Almighty....We put LIGHTS on the Christmas Tree...which represents the LIGHT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT....

IF YOU HAVE READ THE BIBLE AND KNOW CHRIST...THEN YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT DECEMBER 25TH MEANS TO A CHRISTIAN...

THE GIFT GIVING IS THE SPIRIT OF GRACE....IT'S BETTER TO GIVE THAN RECEIVE.....GRACE!
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Scientific theories are "proven", at least partially, based on their predictive value. If a theory has high predictive value then it is more likely to be correct. In this spirit, I am going to place a "theory" in front of this group. Though this "theory" was proposed by "an energy essence personallity" named Seth who was "channeled" by a woman named Jane Roberts, I am only offering it as a theory to be tested by its predictive value. According to Seth's theory, Jesus did not get a stand in for the crucifixion but rather tried to dissuade a "volunteer". Here are Seth's words on this subject:
Here is a portion of what Seth had to say about Jesus:

-Now: For your edification:

Christ, the historical Christ, was not crucified. - You will have to give me time here. (Pause.)

He had no intention of dying in that manner; but others felt that to fulfill the prophecies in all ways, a crucifixion was a necessity. Christ did not take part in it (Pause.) There was a conspiracy in which Judas: played a role an attempt to make a martyr out of Christ.  The man chosen was drugged-hence the necessity of helping him carry the cross (see Luke:23) and he was told that he was the Christ. He believed that he was. He was one of deluded, but he also himself believed that he, not the historical Christ, was to fulfill the prophecies.

Mary came because she was, full of sorrow for the man who believed he was her son.  Out of compassion she was present. The group responsible wanted it to appear that one particular portion of the Jews had crucified Christ, and never dreamed that the whole Jewish people would be "blamed."

(Pause at 10.00.) This is difficult to explain even for me to unravel.  The tomb was empty  because the same group carted the body away. Mary Magdalene did see Christ, however, immediately after (see Matthew 28). (Long, pause.) Christ was a great psychic.  He caused the wounds to appear then upon His own body, and appeared both physically and in out-of-body states to His followers.  He tried however, to explain what had happened and His position but those who were not in on the conspiracy would not understand, and misread His statements.

Peter three times denied the Lord (Matthew 26), saying he did not know Him because he knew that that person was not Christ.

The plea, "Peter, why hast thou forsaken me?" came from the man who believed he was Christ-the drugged version.  Judas pointed out that man. He knew of the conspiracy, and feared that the real Christ would be captured. Therefore he handed over to the authorities a man known to be self-styled messiah--to save, not destroy, the life of the historical Christ.

(10..05. Jane's pace had speeded up considerably now.)

Symbolically, however, the crucifixion idea itself embodied deep dilemmas and meanings of the human psyche, and so the crucifixion per se became far greater reality then the actual physical events that occurred at the time.

Only the deluded are in danger of, or capable of, such self sacrifice, you see, or find it necessary.  Only those still bound up in ideas of crime and punishment would be attracted to that kind of religious drama, and find within it deep echoes of their own subjective, feelings.

Christ knew however, clairvoyantly, that these events in one way or another would occur, and the probable dramas that could result. The man involved could not be swerved from his subjective decision.  He would be sacrificed to make the old Jewish prophecies come true, and he could not be dissuaded.

(10:10.) In the Last Supper when Christ said, "This is my body, and this is my blood," He meant to show that the spirit was within all matter, interconnected, and yet apart--that His own spirit was independent of His body, and also in His own way to hint that He should no longer be identified with His body.  For He knew the dead body would not be His own.

This was all misunderstood. Christ then changed His mode of behavior, appearing quite often in out-of-body states to His followers. (See John 20, 21; Matthew 28, Luke 24.) Before, he had not done this to that degree.  He tried to tell them however that He was not dead, and they chose to take Him symbolically. (A one-minute pause.)  His physical presence was no longer necessary, and was an embarrassment under the circumstances. He simply willed Himself out of it. Now you may take your break.

("Thank you.  It's very interesting.") (10:17. "Wow," Jane said after she came out of trance, "nobody'll like that.

From "Seth Speaks"  (session 560 November, 23 1970)

        Your Christ figure represents, symbolically, your idea of God and his relationships. There were three separate individuals whose history blended, and they became known collectively as Christ - hence many discrepancies in your records. These were all males because at that time of your development, you would not have accepted a female counterpart.

        These individuals were part of one entity. You could not but imagine God as a father. It would never have occurred to you to imagine a god in any other than human terms. Earth components. These three figures worked out a drama, highly symbolic, propelled by concentrated energy of great force.

        (Long pause at 9:52.) The EVENTS  as they are recorded, however, did not occur in history. The crucifixion of Christ was a psychic, but not a physical event. Ideas of almost unimaginable magnitude were played out.

        (Pause at 9:55.) Judas, for example, was not a man in your terms. He was - like all the other Disciples - a blessed, created "fragment personality," formed by the Christ personality. He REPRESENTED the self-betrayer. He dramatized a portion of each individual's personality that focuses upon physical reality in a grasping manner, and denies the inner self out of  greed.

        Each of the twelve represented qualities of personality  that belong to one individual, and Christ as you know him represented the inner self. The twelve, therefore, plus Christ as you know him (the one figure composed of the three) represented an individual earthly personality - the inner self - and twelve main characteristics connected with the egotistical self. As Christ was surrounded by the Disciples, so the inner self is surrounded by these physically oriented characteristics, each drawn outward toward daily reality on the one hand, and yet orbiting the inner self.

        The Disciples, therefore, were given physical reality by the inner self, as all of your earthly characteristics come out of your inner nature. This was a living parable, made flesh among you - a cosmic play worked out for your behalf, couched in terms that you could understand.

        The lessons were made plain, as all the ideas behind them were personified. If you will forgive the term, this was like a local morality play, put on in your corner of the universe. This does not mean it was less real than you previously supposed. In fact, the implications of what is said here should clearly hint at the more powerful aspects of godhood.

        The three Christ personalities were born upon your planet, and indeed became flesh among you. None of these was crucified. The twelve Disciples were materializations from the energies of these three personalities - their combined energies. They were then fully endowed with individuality, however, but their main task was to clearly manifest within themselves certain abilities inherent within all men.

        The same kinds of dramas in different ways have been given, and while the drama is always different, it is always the same. This does not mean that a Christ has appeared within each system of reality. It means that the idea of Cod has manifested within each system in a way that is comprehensible to the inhabitants.

        This drama continues to exist. It does not belong, for example, to your past. Only you have placed it there. This does not mean that it always REOCCURS.  The drama, then was far from meaningless, and the spirit of Christ, in your terms, is legitimate. It is the probable God-drama that you choose to perceive. There were others that were perceived, but not by you, and there are other such dramas existing now.

        Now: Whether or not the Crucifixion occurred physically, it was a psychic event, and exist as do all the other events connected with the drama.

        Many were physical but some were not. The psychic event affected your world quite as much as the physical one, as is obvious, The whole drama occurred as a result of mankind's need. It was created as a result of that need, grew out of it, but it did not originate within your system of  reality.

        Other religions were based upon different dramas, in which ideas were acted out in a way that was comprehensible to various cultures. Unfortunately, the differences between the dramas often led to misunderstandings, and these were used as excuses for wars. These dramas are also privately worked out in the dream state. The God-personified figures first were introduced to man in the dream state, and the way then prepared.=20

        In visions and inspirations, men knew that the Christ drama would be enacted and hence recognized it for what it was when it occurred physically. Its power and strength then returned to the dream universe. It had increased its vigor and intensity through the physical materialization. In private dream, men then related to the main figures in the drama, and in the dream state they recognized its true import.

        Now: God is more than the sum of all the probable systems of reality He has created, and yet He is within each one of these, without exception. He is therefore within each man and woman. He is also within each spider, shadow, and frog, and this is what man does not  like to admit.

        God can only be experienced, and you experience Him whether or not you realize it, through your own existence. He is not male or female, however, and I use the term only for convenience's sake. In the most inescapable truth, He is not human in your terms at all, nor in your terms is He a personality. Your IDEAS  of personality are too limited to contain the multitudinous facets of His multidimensional existence.

        On the other hand, He is human, in that He is a portion of each individual; and within the vastness of His experience He holds an "IDEA-SHAPE" of Himself as human, to which you can relate. He literally was made flesh to dwell among you, for He forms your flesh in that He is responsible for the energy that gives vitality and validity to your private multidimensional self, which in turn forms your image in accordance with your own ideas.

        The private multidimensional self, or the soul, has then an eternal validity. It is upheld, supported, maintained by the energy, the inconceivable vitality, of All That Is.

        It cannot be destroyed then, this inner self of yours, nor can it be diminished. It shares in those abilities that are inherent within All That Is. It must, therefore, create as it is created, for this is the great giving that is behind all dimensions of existence, the spilling-over from the fountain of All That Is.

        Now we will end our session. __________________________________________

Reference to Paul is in Seth Speaks - Session 586

In that session, he talks of the three men whose lives became confused in history and merged and who became known as Christ.  He said the entity was born once as John the Baptist, one as the personality that most stories of Christ refer to and once as Paul. When Paul reemerges historically, he will carry within Him the characteristics of all three personalities.

You really need to read the whole session, as it is too long to print, but it's very interesting.  Seth said, " Paul was to implement the spiritual ideas  of Christ in physical terms, however he grew the seeds of an organization that would smother the ideas. He lingered after Christ, as John the Baptist came before. Together the three spanned some time period......John and the historical Christ each performed their roles and were satisfied that they had done so.  Paul alone was left at the end unsatisfied and so it is about his personality that the future Christ will form. .....the entity of which these personalities are part, that entity, which you may call the Christ entity, was aware of these issues. The earthly personalities were not aware of them, although in periods of trance and exaltation, much was made known to them..."

He went on to say that the third personality of Christ (Paul) will indeed be known as a great psychic, for it is He who will teach humanity to use those inner senses that alone make true spirituality possible.  Slayers and victims will change roles as reincarnational memories rise to the surface of consciousness.  Through the development of these abilities, the sacredness of all life will be intimately recognized and appreciated.

Seth said, "one man had already been born in India, in a small province near Calcutta, but his ministry will seem to remain comparatively local for his lifetime.

Another will be born in Africa,  a black man whose main work will be done in Indonesia. The expectations were set long ago in your terms, and will be fed by new prophets until the third personality of Christ does indeed emerge.   He will lead man behind the symbolism upon which religion has relied and will emphasize individual spiritual experience, the expansiveness of soul, and teach man to recognize the multitudinous aspects of his own reality
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maybe its a good thing that they scramble our brains like a denver omlette, when we croak , so we cant remember just how much funn its been slaving our meamingless lives away on this chunk of carbon
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There are three routes for us to establish a connection with the eternal divine:

Via our soul lent to us at birth by Sophia/Gaia.

Redemption via the mediation of the Christos spirit (Sophia's Aeon counterpart)


Personal initiative!
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Because..................our egomaniac bicameral smart monkey minds were created to process the Archon spectrum into redeemable condition, via the mediation of the Aeon Christos.

Other than that you need to be as 'little children' (still connected to your soul) ............or to be able to set aside the Archon matrix on your own via innate talent discipline inspiration grace etc...................it's what the whole of Taoism, Zen Buddhism aim at for example.
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Proof????

Or have you just read this from some sh1te researcher and damned it to be truth??
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the info came directly from the Vatican

however consider the source
may not be factual
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Hahahaha...How do you know the Vatican isn't corrupt??

It quite clearly states in the Bible that God's churches will become infested by Satan's minions, you should know this if you have read Scripture!
What if this is Satan's doing to make people think that Jesus's Birth date is in fact a farce and lie??

Sounds pretty devious to me! And you believe it lol
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Jesus Christ FLESH BODY was born on September 29; The Holy Spirit of CHRIST entered the Embryo of Mary upon CONCEPTION, December 25....that is the birth we celebrate...because this is when the HOLY SPIRIT walked on the earth....proof Read Luke Chapter 1 through Chapter 3 tells you all about the dates.

Things you must know....Zacharias, husband of Elizabeth who was the cousin of Mary, was told by GABRIEL, Elizabeth would conceive...Elizabeth was very old, way beyond the age of child barring and Zacharias doubted Gabriel, so Gabriel took his voice.....(until John was born)...Zacharias was of the tribe of Judah, a priest, they had 24 courses to attend every year, Zacharias had to attend the course of Abia...which was always in June 13-20th....June 20th Zacharias had to walk home...40-50 miles...a 2-3 day walk....which would be June 23 when he got home...It's believed Elizabeth conceived by June 24th....if you read further in LUKE...GABRIEL appeared to Mary the early A.M.hours of June 25th and told her God Almighty/Christ's spirit would come upon her and she would bare HIS child, and he would be called Emmanuel (God With US)....it happened, at daylight, Mary ran to Elizabeth WHO WAS 6 MONTHS PREGNANT...so we KNOW it was DECEMBER 25, when the Holy Spirit began to walk the earth...because the Holy Spirit touched Elizabeth and the babe in her womb LEPT...when the Holy Spirit filled John the Baptist, the child Elizabeth would bare....

THAT IS WHY WE CELEBRATE DECEMBER 25TH....

AND IS THE REASON FOR THE CHRISTMAS TREE...A FIR TREE WHICH IS THE TREE OF LEBANON...Garden of Eden this tree presents God Almighty....We put LIGHTS on the Christmas Tree...which represents the LIGHT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT....

IF YOU HAVE READ THE BIBLE AND KNOW CHRIST...THEN YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT DECEMBER 25TH MEANS TO A CHRISTIAN...

THE GIFT GIVING IS THE SPIRIT OF GRACE....IT'S BETTER TO GIVE THAN RECEIVE.....GRACE!
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correction "GABRIEL appeared to Mary the early A.M.hours of June 25th and told her God Almighty/Christ's spirit would come upon her and she would bare HIS child, and he would be called Emmanuel (God With US)"

OF COURSE THE DATE ISN'T JUNE 25TH.....IT'S DECEMBER 25TH WHEN ARCH ANGEL GABRIEL APPEARED TO MARY AFTER MIDNIGHT ON DECEMBER 24TH MAKING THE DATE SHE CONCEIVED DECEMBER 25TH
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I am Eman Emmanuel son of Zadakyel and I tell you , Jesus was tantric and if you are not tantric like Jesus no heaven for you !

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whatever demon is telling you this; making you believe this has got a pretty good hold on you.....i'd be worried if i were in your shoes.....there is only ONE TRUE GOD: Christ....if your demons tell you otherwise....just begin thinking saying JESUS CHRIST over and over and see if you don't have a change of heart....demons FEAR Christ.......they know of HIS POWER/Glory
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I have a question for you
and ALL Christians:

In what language did YHWH etch
the 10 Commandments in stone ???
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Hebrew
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whatever demon is telling you this; making you believe this has got a pretty good hold on you.....i'd be worried if i were in your shoes.....there is only ONE TRUE GOD: Christ....if your demons tell you otherwise....just begin thinking saying JESUS CHRIST over and over and see if you don't have a change of heart....demons FEAR Christ.......they know of HIS POWER/Glory
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I have a question for you
and ALL Christians:

In what language did YHWH etch
the 10 Commandments in stone ???
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YHVH, etched the 10 Commandments on the 2 tablets Moses hewned in HEBREW
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whatever demon is telling you this; making you believe this has got a pretty good hold on you.....i'd be worried if i were in your shoes.....there is only ONE TRUE GOD: Christ....if your demons tell you otherwise....just begin thinking saying JESUS CHRIST over and over and see if you don't have a change of heart....demons FEAR Christ.......they know of HIS POWER/Glory
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56898125


I have a question for you
and ALL Christians:

In what language did YHWH etch
the 10 Commandments in stone ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55115029


Hebrew
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incorrect !!!!

Moses lived from 1275 BC to 1165 BC

The Hebrew language was not created
til 1,000 BC

so how can YHWH write in a language
that didn't exist at the time ???
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YHVH, etched the 10 Commandments on the 2 tablets Moses hewned in HEBREW
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see, like most religtards
they don't do their homework

incorrect !!!!

Moses lived from 1275 BC to 1165 BC

The Hebrew language was not created
til 1,000 BC

so how can YHWH write in a language
that didn't exist at the time ???

bam

and the hammer drops
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whatever demon is telling you this; making you believe this has got a pretty good hold on you.....i'd be worried if i were in your shoes.....there is only ONE TRUE GOD: Christ....if your demons tell you otherwise....just begin thinking saying JESUS CHRIST over and over and see if you don't have a change of heart....demons FEAR Christ.......they know of HIS POWER/Glory
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56898125


I have a question for you
and ALL Christians:

In what language did YHWH etch
the 10 Commandments in stone ???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55115029


YHVH, etched the 10 Commandments on the 2 tablets Moses hewned in HEBREW
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YHVY, the finger of God Almighty/Christ our Lord, wrote in HEBREW the 10 Commandments on the 2 tablets Moses was told to hewn.

The frist two tablets God Almighty broke away from a stone and with HIS finger in HEBREW wrote the 10 Commandments on them, Moses broke, since Moses threw them at the Nation of Israel waiting the bottom of Mt. Sinai for they were worshiping a golden calf.
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YHVH, etched the 10 Commandments on the 2 tablets Moses hewned in HEBREW
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56898125


see, like most religtards
they don't do their homework

incorrect !!!!

Moses lived from 1275 BC to 1165 BC

The Hebrew language was not created
til 1,000 BC

so how can YHWH write in a language
that didn't exist at the time ???

bam

and the hammer drops
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55115029


God Almighty can do anything he wants to do at any moment......that's why he told Moses to call him:

I AM AS I AM
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YHVH, etched the 10 Commandments on the 2 tablets Moses hewned in HEBREW
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56898125


see, like most religtards
they don't do their homework

incorrect !!!!

Moses lived from 1275 BC to 1165 BC

The Hebrew language was not created
til 1,000 BC

so how can YHWH write in a language
that didn't exist at the time ???

bam

and the hammer drops
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God Almighty can do anything he wants to do at any moment......that's why he told Moses to call him:

I AM AS I AM
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The Nation of Israel's language at that time was HEBREW!
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Proof????

Or have you just read this from some sh1te researcher and damned it to be truth??
 Quoting: showgirls1980


the info came directly from the Vatican

however consider the source
may not be factual
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 55115029


Hahahaha...How do you know the Vatican isn't corrupt??

It quite clearly states in the Bible that God's churches will become infested by Satan's minions, you should know this if you have read Scripture!
What if this is Satan's doing to make people think that Jesus's Birth date is in fact a farce and lie??

Sounds pretty devious to me! And you believe it lol
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Jesus Christ FLESH BODY was born on September 29; The Holy Spirit of CHRIST entered the Embryo of Mary upon CONCEPTION, December 25....that is the birth we celebrate...because this is when the HOLY SPIRIT walked on the earth....proof Read Luke Chapter 1 through Chapter 3 tells you all about the dates.

Things you must know....Zacharias, husband of Elizabeth who was the cousin of Mary, was told by GABRIEL, Elizabeth would conceive...Elizabeth was very old, way beyond the age of child barring and Zacharias doubted Gabriel, so Gabriel took his voice.....(until John was born)...Zacharias was of the tribe of Judah, a priest, they had 24 courses to attend every year, Zacharias had to attend the course of Abia...which was always in June 13-20th....June 20th Zacharias had to walk home...40-50 miles...a 2-3 day walk....which would be June 23 when he got home...It's believed Elizabeth conceived by June 24th....if you read further in LUKE...GABRIEL appeared to Mary the early A.M.hours of June 25th and told her God Almighty/Christ's spirit would come upon her and she would bare HIS child, and he would be called Emmanuel (God With US)....it happened, at daylight, Mary ran to Elizabeth WHO WAS 6 MONTHS PREGNANT...so we KNOW it was DECEMBER 25, when the Holy Spirit began to walk the earth...because the Holy Spirit touched Elizabeth and the babe in her womb LEPT...when the Holy Spirit filled John the Baptist, the child Elizabeth would bare....

THAT IS WHY WE CELEBRATE DECEMBER 25TH....

AND IS THE REASON FOR THE CHRISTMAS TREE...A FIR TREE WHICH IS THE TREE OF LEBANON...Garden of Eden this tree presents God Almighty....We put LIGHTS on the Christmas Tree...which represents the LIGHT OF THE HOLY SPIRIT....

IF YOU HAVE READ THE BIBLE AND KNOW CHRIST...THEN YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT DECEMBER 25TH MEANS TO A CHRISTIAN...

THE GIFT GIVING IS THE SPIRIT OF GRACE....IT'S BETTER TO GIVE THAN RECEIVE.....GRACE!
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You really need to look into the history of the Christmas tree.
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YHVY, the finger of God Almighty/Christ our Lord, wrote in HEBREW the 10 Commandments on the 2 tablets Moses was told to hewn.

The frist two tablets God Almighty broke away from a stone and with HIS finger in HEBREW wrote the 10 Commandments on them, Moses broke, since Moses threw them at the Nation of Israel waiting the bottom of Mt. Sinai for they were worshiping a golden calf.
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more fallacy

Hebrew was not created til 1,000 BC

Moses died 165 yrs before the Hebrew
language was invented
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The Nation of Israel's language at that time was HEBREW!
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incorrect once again

damn you religitards are truly ignorant

the native tongue for Galilee during the
1st Century was Aramaic.
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Do you people not see that the Lord is trying to catch your attention by drawing you closer and making you think??

You all have a chance to read scripture for yourselves yet most of you unbelievers choose to ignore it??

The time for the Lord to return is close, believe me - Please open your eyes and pray to him, ask him to show himself to you ...Trust me, you will not be disapointed xxx
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i could just as easily tell you that the time is not close at all

for six decades i have been told the time is close- yet nothing

for each day of 2 thousand years some one has said the time is close, and has been wron, unequivocably wrong.

there is nothing special about this generation

i don't know the future , i don't pretend to

but niether do you, so stop acting like you do
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and so

if YHWH did not write the 10 Commandments
in Hebrew

how the hell could he call them the chosen
ones when they didn't even have their own
language at that time ?

So what language DID YHWH supposedly
write those 10 laws in ???
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Personally I would rather go with the eastern teachings of salvation from this material existence as it is actually practical and makes logical sense that relates to the reality of the situation.

Instead of believing in a man who is worshipped as God who merely asks you believe in him without any effort or self sacrifice on spiritual practice from the individual. People actually think going into a building which they label the house of God to listen to a man who is supposedly saintly once a week that they will be free from this realm of suffering. Makes fuck all sense.

Salvation is your job and nobody elses. The house of the living God is the human body which is your tool to ascend into heaven. The human body is made by God, Churchs are made by man. So it would make logical sense that one should dedicate time and practice on themselves to save their counsciousness. Rather than going somewhere outside of themselves to be saved. The irony of the matter just kills me, especially when the Christian holy book tells them exactly the kingdom of God is within themselves. Yet they look into the world of temporal motion for salvation which is all an illusion.

Sad, very sad times we live in. The blind leading the blind.
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I know some of you think you are so clever and above all us minions and you are so superior. Well I can tell you we were all born to live forever and you can't deny that. You are here on earth to establish where you will spend eternity in hell or Heaven, but even if you don't like it you will live for ever. I read some of your comments and I can feel you haven't lived very long, you are still into your own self and to heck with all the logic that actually could save your sole. You mock GOD and you put down people like myself that really do care about you, and you prefer to ridicule and bad mouth Christians to promote satan. There is only two ways to go period, yes it is a battle of good and evil and by your own comments you can see which side you are on . Well you better be right eternity is a long time. You rank down church I guess because you are so far above it, it sounds like you are all with oprah and new age, she says you all can become gods it is all inside you, I suggest you couldn't be farther from the truth and yes you can say all the bad stuff, and in your mind look good to all who agree with you, but GOD will take you out and that is a fact. So Happy Easter and see you on the other side soon. If you make it.
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Im going to have to disagree with you. I myself was raised Christian but as I got older I started having questions that no one seemed to be able to answer. So, maybe you can help me out here. I hope you can come back with a proper retort and not the,' Because the bible says so" kind of answer. Why is it that across multiple religions and cultures do the same exact, and I mean exact same stories, exist? Cultures much much older than Christianity and Jewdism, the names are different but some are the same names as well. The great deluge, Adam and Eve, I could go on and on about these stories that are written and can be researched. This doesnt make any sense to me. I have more but will start with that. Now when looking back at Christs time here on Earth there are a few sides. I can see the the majority rules here when it came to what was written, especially during the Council at Nicea. They kicked out the Nostics who wanted to come but they said, NO! Some of what they spoke of was different from the majority. Instead of Christ on the cross saying he was the son of God, they said he said we were all children of God. What I see going on is a way to control man and the populace with guilt and negativity spewed out by the Catholic church over the malenias. When in actuality Yeshua, (not Jesus, which was never his name nor should it ever be)was showing us what we are all capable of through loving each other and loving God. Not the, Im a piece of shit and deserve nothing life that Catholicism and Christianity basically teaches.
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and so

if YHWH did not write the 10 Commandments
in Hebrew

how the hell could he call them the chosen
ones when they didn't even have their own
language at that time ?

So what language DID YHWH supposedly
write those 10 laws in ???
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It's clear you have not read the bible...the nation of Israel was held captive by Egypt....the Nation of Israel were the HEBREWs, who spoke HEBREW.....you are uneducated it is clear.....i suggest you read the bible!
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I know some of you think you are so clever and above all us minions and you are so superior. Well I can tell you we were all born to live forever and you can't deny that. You are here on earth to establish where you will spend eternity in hell or Heaven, but even if you don't like it you will live for ever. I read some of your comments and I can feel you haven't lived very long, you are still into your own self and to heck with all the logic that actually could save your sole. You mock GOD and you put down people like myself that really do care about you, and you prefer to ridicule and bad mouth Christians to promote satan. There is only two ways to go period, yes it is a battle of good and evil and by your own comments you can see which side you are on . Well you better be right eternity is a long time. You rank down church I guess because you are so far above it, it sounds like you are all with oprah and new age, she says you all can become gods it is all inside you, I suggest you couldn't be farther from the truth and yes you can say all the bad stuff, and in your mind look good to all who agree with you, but GOD will take you out and that is a fact. So Happy Easter and see you on the other side soon. If you make it.
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Im going to have to disagree with you. I myself was raised Christian but as I got older I started having questions that no one seemed to be able to answer. So, maybe you can help me out here. I hope you can come back with a proper retort and not the,' Because the bible says so" kind of answer. Why is it that across multiple religions and cultures do the same exact, and I mean exact same stories, exist? Cultures much much older than Christianity and Jewdism, the names are different but some are the same names as well. The great deluge, Adam and Eve, I could go on and on about these stories that are written and can be researched. This doesnt make any sense to me. I have more but will start with that. Now when looking back at Christs time here on Earth there are a few sides. I can see the the majority rules here when it came to what was written, especially during the Council at Nicea. They kicked out the Nostics who wanted to come but they said, NO! Some of what they spoke of was different from the majority. Instead of Christ on the cross saying he was the son of God, they said he said we were all children of God. What I see going on is a way to control man and the populace with guilt and negativity spewed out by the Catholic church over the malenias. When in actuality Yeshua, (not Jesus, which was never his name nor should it ever be)was showing us what we are all capable of through loving each other and loving God. Not the, Im a piece of shit and deserve nothing life that Catholicism and Christianity basically teaches.
 Quoting: Mister Pink 1708446


It's because Traditions of Men, have devised their own god....there is only ONE TRUE GOD, the GOD OF THE NATION OF iSRAEL, God of Jacob....Isaiah 45....read the whole chapter!

TRADITIONS OF MEN MAKE VOID THE WORD. THE WORD IS TRUTH...THE WORD IS WRITTEN FOR YOU TO KNOW AND UNDERSTAND TRUTH.....DO NOT LISTEN TO "RELIGIONS"....READ THE WORD...IT'S THE ONLY TRUTH.
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Why is it that across multiple religions and cultures do the same exact, and I mean exact same stories, exist? Cultures much much older than Christianity and Jewdism, the names are different but some are the same names as well.
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that is easy to answer

since man has been in existence,
he has had a desire to enslave
others for his own agenda, greed,
power, wealth, etc ....

the best way to enslave is through
religious doctrine.

The Sumerians practiced this
and the Egyptians practiced this
long before Judaism was ever
invented.

The Hebrews just copied it out
of the playbook from other civilizations
before them and adopted their own
doctrines.

Then later Christianity and Islam
sprouted from Judaic principles.

But ALL of them were meant to
control populations.

and it still does today

just so happens that the Hebrew Psy-Op
outlasted all the others,
but still a Psy-Op none the less.
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You seem to think that being so perfect you will earn your way to heaven. Well or where ever it is you are trying to go you like to put down the people on this site you have been on here for 5 or 6 hours throwing crap even Jesus hated the Pharisees because they tried to control everybody to their way of acting and believing, to which you would make a great Pharisees in todays market. My first post was a statement to which Jesus testified that he was the only way to Heaven and yes all other religions that don't worship Jesus is just an exercise and will pay nothing in the end. I suggest you print your own bible and construct it the way you would like and leave Gods word alone . Read the last sentence in Revelation and then try to change things the way you think we should be , and Good Luck!
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when one star is still one star too many...
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Once I understood the gospel and what Jesus did for us on the cross!!.. it was like thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Why would anyone in their right mind want to reject that!!??
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It's clear you have not read the bible...the nation of Israel was held captive by Egypt....the Nation of Israel were the HEBREWs, who spoke HEBREW.....you are uneducated it is clear.....i suggest you read the bible!
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incorrect

the Egyptians enslaved the Habirus
(Habiru)
wondering nomads and small tribesmen
who were bandits against Egypt.

When the Habirus worked in Egypt
they spoke Aramaic, not Hebrew.

They did not get the name of Hebrews until
the Hebrew language was invented
around 1,000 BC

which also goes to prove the Torah was not
written by Moses as he would have
referred to his people by Habiru instead
of Hebrew.

and there was no single nation of Israel
in that period. Canaan was divided into
2 sections, North and South.
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you like to put down the people on this site you have been on here for 5 or 6 hours throwing crap
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there is not a single statement I made
that cannot be backed up with
historical evidence

you cannot say the same for your bible

so who is throwing crap ???
you are !!!