Christ will get you to heaven and that is it, no other way but through Christ.

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I know it's probably an inconvenience for you to actually read the Bible that you allegedly believe so much in, so I will fill you religitards in on a little secret.

No human goes to heaven. Ever. None ever have, and none ever will. When the preacher tells you at funerals that such and such is in a better place now he is, much like every other time he opens his mouth, full of shit. The Bible says that in the end the dead shall be judged first.

That very line right there means a couple things...

1) there is no one currently in either heaven nor hell since they haven't been judged yet.

2) there will be no rapture. A Rapture event would render the above mentioned statement false since to have Rapture would seem to indicate some kind of pre judgement, and of course, there is the whole thing about rapture never ever ever being even hinted at in the Bible. EVER.

3) The whole concept of heaven and hell and how one goes to either place is completely dictated by a terrestrial perception of morality and virtue. I don't know if you have looked around lately, but we are not exactly the pinnacle of virtue, least of all amongst you Christian types.

Last Edited by LuckyPyrate on 04/19/2014 05:09 PM

So this means that the Christians and Muslims go to heaven, and everyone else gets left behind, including the Jews who we side with against the Muslims?

So if we continue to kills followers of Christ do we parish in the flames as well?

well Joshua killed everybody in Jericho,
men, women and children

let that be your guide,
it seems to have worked out
for the Hebrews since they
got their own state out of it

lol

So then Lao Tzu, the enlightened master who preceded the birth of Christ, did not go to heaven, or had to wait a few thousand years in purgatory?

Seriously?

You did not answer one question I had but you did do what I expected. You only came back with "because the bible says so". Again you cannot ignore, nor use the "MEN MAKE VOID THE WORD" when it comes to these facts. The great deluge was written well before Noah and The Ark and so was Adam and Eve. Riddle me this, why is it in Sumerian culture do they write about The Annunaki coming to create man in Eden, ( my spelling of how they did it is a little off but sounds the same)? This was where what we now call Iraq. This is written and do not come back with the BS of this is a lie yada yada truth. Dont delude yourself and understand this, "wise men still seek him". So research before coming back with a void answer.

Jesus Christ is my personal savior. Someone else could have a different personal savior, God the Father for example. Ramana Maharshi had a sacred mountain as his personal savior.

and i would suggest that you reread your original post op. also reread your subsequent posts including this latest.

talk about behavior control, you are a pharisee. everyone who does not accept your beliefs, your dogma is wrong and wasting their time.

you say these things,and then have the temerity to act hurt that multitudes don't follow your lead.

Opinions not facts guy.

wrong

I do not believe a heaven exists so i do not need a savior...i do fine saving myself.

Ahoy there spacecake, if the only way to Heaven is through Christ (assuming that be Jesus) then what happened to all the folks born before him?

On that note, what about all the cavemen/women and their descendants prior to Jesus, were they sent to Hell simply because they didn't know Jesus?

And what of people of other religions who lead a good life but had never heard of Jesus, are they also doomed?

You need to cop yourself on, and stop believing in a book that's a rehash of many older texts, Jesus is a parable on how to treat others with respect, just like Godzilla is a parable about the dangers of nuclear power.

Cool story yo.

Jesus died for everybody he did not say Christians only.


And that means me a holy Roman Catholic.

1. WE are ALL children of God. We were all created by Him. Therefore to say that there is only "one" son of God is silly. It's like saying that you and I are not sons of God, since there is ONLY one son. So what are the rest of us, chopped liver?? Can you accept that?

2. There is no "Hell", there are only different planes, or dimensions, of existence. If there is a "hell" it is within ourselves, where we experience pain, or where we feel remorse for having fallen short.

3. The true God of creation does not require worship or adoration. A true father does not require his son/s to "worship" him, only that the son find his way in life and find his true purpose.

2000 years from now, there will be a new religion and buildings all around that have an electric chair people stand in front of and shake their body violently to show their devotion to set religion and a new Jesus who knows probably someone on death row.

HUBRIS thread

waaaaaaay too many egos here.

You know, you cant follow the spirit when you are controlled by your ego

I'm tired of waiting so I'm building a tower, wanna bet I get there first?

Also, it is stupid to think that god send his son to earth to die for our sins. Never made sense to me. We have murders, pain, suffering, the Illuminati enslaving the rest of us, yet god supposedly sends his son here to die for our sins.

Whose sins? We're just as bad off as we were 2000 years ago.

If your god really loved us he wouldn't consign us to eternal hell for not "believing" in a "Jesus".

Rather petty of a god.

I agree, the egos being shown is terribly sad. I keep seeing it in that Israeli person's threads also

As if you know shit.

"1. WE are ALL children of God. We were all created by Him. Therefore to say that there is only "one" son of God is silly. It's like saying that you and I are not sons of God, since there is ONLY one son. So what are the rest of us, chopped liver?? Can you accept that?"

Yes, all 12B souls were created by God in the first earth age....however, Satan rebelled....in this 2nd earth age, satan tried to destory the seed of God's Adam...the 8th day creation; wherein God Almighty "blew in his nostrils the holy spirit, the breath of LIFE"....So Adam and Eve who was made from Adam's DNA....were targeted by Satan who was thrown out of Heaven in the first earth age and condemned to die...tried to destroy the seed of EVE by tempting her in the garden where Satan, the man, laid EVE and she conceived....later that same day, Eve laid with Adam and she conceived......it's called fraternal twins, two sacs of water, the same mother but different fathers....Eve bore first Cain, seedline of Satan, then Abel, seedline of Adam....Cain slew Abel.......the first liar, the first murder, which is what satan is, a liar and a murderer.....

Eve later bore Seth by Adam...whose seedline goes to Christ through Pherez, and his twin Zarah, which is the Scarlet thread, a/k/a the House of Israel....

So there is more than ONE SON, ....but there is ONLY ONE SON OF GOD ALMIGHTY---Christ

Satan's seedline are of Cain, whose seedline is VIPERS because Satan was cursed in the garden for laying with EVE to eat the dust and crawl on his belly.....so Cain's seed is the spiritual body of a viper...and this is the last generation, because satan's seeldine of vipers is becoming so prevelant, some being born are spiritally 1/2 vipers and 1/2 human....we call them reptialians....their pupils are elongated like vipers, and their tongues, flip out of their mouths at will.......this is why this has to be the last generation....for if it continues, vipers will become of babes being born from the seedling of cain....so Christ will return before that can happen and end this 2nd earth age.

Those that fight so against Christ, are the seedline of cain most likely, since cain/satan LOATHS Christ who has inherited everything the Father YHVY ever created....the envy, jealousy and hatred of satan losing to Christ is what drives him to destory those who believe in Christ.....that's why Christians are under attack by satan...however, Those who are CHOSEN by Christ; satan can't touch a hair on their head, for if he does, satan will have to face Christ, who holds all the power in the universe....so satan has to back away from true christians who have Christ in their minds/heart first and foremost....

Christ then becomes a secret weapon against all evil.....that is why you want Christ in first and foremost in your mind and invite Christ into your heart/life....the best weapon you can carry in your being! :)

How do you know? I believe in Christ though the supernatural experiences that I've experienced it in my life I know he exist and breathes and he is alive in me. Think about this "The Big Bang" What started it? Everyone agrees Yeah the big bang started our existence when they haven't even questioned what started it.

Science is preformed by the devil people possessed and he drops that hidden knowledge in them subconsciously. Ask the Lord to reveal himself to you with a pure heart and you will find him. Draw near to him and he will draw near to you.

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If there are all these other ways for people to go to heaven like you say then why did Jesus even have to die. I thought the bible said all men are born into sin? If that is so, good works cannot save people. Don't try to take this god and make him good. He obviously isn't good. Only a FEW get to heaven. Jesus says that. Do you honestly think this ogre god cares about mentally retarded people or tribesmen who never heard of Jesus. LOL...read your bible.

Heaven sounds boring anyhow. I'd much rather party with lucifer, snorting coke out of a hookers ass or something.

As for the whole pit if doom lakes of fire business that didn't come about until Dante wrote inferno. It's just a vivid image picked up by the church to frighten people into conformity.