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Facts that disprove conspiracy theory about Harry Reid, Cliven Bundy and solar power

 
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Facts that disprove conspiracy theory about Harry Reid, Cliven Bundy and solar power
[link to www.lasvegassun.com]

The timelines don’t line up: Bundy’s battle with the BLM started in 1993 when he stopped paying his grazing fees, 18 years before anyone talked about putting Chinese money into the Nevada desert for renewable energy. Talk about the Chinese solar project started in 2011 and ended in 2013. And the Bundy-BLM confrontation came this month, long after the solar project died.
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not to mention the sites ARE 180 or so miles APART

these idiots would follow Satan right into Hell if he said c'mon I'm gonna take on Obammy & the Feds

look people I understand your hatred of Obammy and the Government, I'm NOT in any way happy either.....

but Damn!, learn to "vet" the information you are receiving for yourselves....else you just end up looking like a fool


and FWIW, remember what trinity warned about the "fat man" awhile back, how he was trouble??.....guess who made up this "link" to the Solar deal-Bundy ranch thing....that's right THE FAT MAN....

look it up, it's all there
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cliven bundy is a freeloading parasite.
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The timelines don’t line up: Bundy’s battle with the BLM started in 1993 when he stopped paying his grazing fees, 18 years before anyone talked about putting Chinese money into the Nevada desert for renewable energy. Talk about the Chinese solar project started in 2011 and ended in 2013. And the Bundy-BLM confrontation came this month, long after the solar project died.
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The blm arbitrarily cut Bundy's grazing allotment from 900 cattle to 150. The blm continued to charge him for 900 cattle even though he could only graze 150.

this is a taking of property rights. Only a brain dead sheeple can't understand why this is wrong.

There are other issues here than grazing rights. Only a brain dead heavily propagandized statist sheep can't recognize that.

Last Edited by s. d. butler on 04/24/2014 05:57 AM
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The timelines don’t line up: Bundy’s battle with the BLM started in 1993 when he stopped paying his grazing fees, 18 years before anyone talked about putting Chinese money into the Nevada desert for renewable energy. Talk about the Chinese solar project started in 2011 and ended in 2013. And the Bundy-BLM confrontation came this month, long after the solar project died.
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The blm arbitrarily cut Bundy's grazing allotment from 900 cattle to 150. The blm continued to charge him for 900 cattle even though he could only graze 150.

this is a taking of property rights. Only a brain dead sheeple can't understand why this is wrong.

There are other issues here than grazing rights. Only a brain dead heavily propagandized statist sheep can't recognize that.
 Quoting: s. d. butler




let me ask, does Bundy OWN this disputed land ? And by that I mean does HE HOLD title to it ?
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The timelines don’t line up: Bundy’s battle with the BLM started in 1993 when he stopped paying his grazing fees, 18 years before anyone talked about putting Chinese money into the Nevada desert for renewable energy. Talk about the Chinese solar project started in 2011 and ended in 2013. And the Bundy-BLM confrontation came this month, long after the solar project died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57268489


The blm arbitrarily cut Bundy's grazing allotment from 900 cattle to 150. The blm continued to charge him for 900 cattle even though he could only graze 150.

this is a taking of property rights. Only a brain dead sheeple can't understand why this is wrong.

There are other issues here than grazing rights. Only a brain dead heavily propagandized statist sheep can't recognize that.
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let me ask, does Bundy OWN this disputed land ? And by that I mean does HE HOLD title to it ?
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no. he does NOT.
end of story.
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[link to www.lasvegassun.com]

The timelines don’t line up: Bundy’s battle with the BLM started in 1993 when he stopped paying his grazing fees, 18 years before anyone talked about putting Chinese money into the Nevada desert for renewable energy. Talk about the Chinese solar project started in 2011 and ended in 2013. And the Bundy-BLM confrontation came this month, long after the solar project died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57268489


The blm arbitrarily cut Bundy's grazing allotment from 900 cattle to 150. The blm continued to charge him for 900 cattle even though he could only graze 150.

this is a taking of property rights. Only a brain dead sheeple can't understand why this is wrong.

There are other issues here than grazing rights. Only a brain dead heavily propagandized statist sheep can't recognize that.
 Quoting: s. d. butler




let me ask, does Bundy OWN this disputed land ? And by that I mean does HE HOLD title to it ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375


HE HOLDS GRAZING AND WATERING RIGHTS THAT PREDATE THE BLM BY DECADES.
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The timelines ggdon’t line up: Bundy’s battle with the BLM started in 1993 when he stopped paying his grazing fees, 18 years before anyone talked about putting Chinese money into the Nevada desert for renewable energy. Talk about the Chinese solar project started in 2011 and ended in 2013. And the Bundy-BLM confrontation came this month, long after the solar project died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57268489


The blm arbitrarily cut Bundy's grazing allotment from 900 cattle to 150. The blm continued to charge him for 900 cattle even though he could only graze 150.

this is a taking of property rights. Only a brain dead sheeple can't understand why this is wrong.

There are other issues here than grazing rights. Only a brain dead heavily propagandized statist sheep can't recognize that.
 Quoting: s. d. butler




let me ask, does Bundy OWN this disputed land ? And by that I mean does HE HOLD title to it ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375




well I'd figured SDB would have come back screaming "He owns the rights to it"....

the land in question belongs to the People of the United States....not Bundy,

I'm sure there is some legal language in the original "Rights" agreement that allows changes to it.....I've NEVER seen a contract that doesn't
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Nearly everyone knows, the shills are the ones who constantly get bs pinned on here.
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[link to www.lasvegassun.com]

The timelines ggdon’t line up: Bundy’s battle with the BLM started in 1993 when he stopped paying his grazing fees, 18 years before anyone talked about putting Chinese money into the Nevada desert for renewable energy. Talk about the Chinese solar project started in 2011 and ended in 2013. And the Bundy-BLM confrontation came this month, long after the solar project died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57268489


The blm arbitrarily cut Bundy's grazing allotment from 900 cattle to 150. The blm continued to charge him for 900 cattle even though he could only graze 150.

this is a taking of property rights. Only a brain dead sheeple can't understand why this is wrong.

There are other issues here than grazing rights. Only a brain dead heavily propagandized statist sheep can't recognize that.
 Quoting: s. d. butler




let me ask, does Bundy OWN this disputed land ? And by that I mean does HE HOLD title to it ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375




well I'd figured SDB would have come back screaming "He owns the rights to it"....

the land in question belongs to the People of the United States....not Bundy,

I'm sure there is some legal language in the original "Rights" agreement that allows changes to it.....I've NEVER seen a contract that doesn't
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Grazing rights are a property right just like mineral rights.

Did you read the post? The blm charged him for 900 animal units and only allowed 150.


That constitutes a taking of property rights.

It has happened before to Wayne Hage and others.

If you support taking property from ranchers the government will eventually get around to you and take your property.

It isn't such a simple issue as the left makes it out to be.

[link to armstrongeconomics.com]


QUESTION: Is it true that nearly 80% of Nevada is still owned by the Federal Government who then pays no tax to the State of Nevada? This seems very strange if true as a backdrop to this entire Bundy affair.

You seem to be the only person to tell the truth without getting crazy.

Thank you so much

HF

REPLY: The truth behind Nevada is of course just a quagmire of politics. Nevada was a key pawn in getting Abraham Lincoln reelected in 1864 during the middle of the Civil War. Back on March 21st, 1864, the US Congress enacted the Nevada Statehood statute that authorized the residents of Nevada Territory to elect representatives to a convention for the purpose of having Nevada join the Union. This is where we find the origin of the fight going on in Nevada that the left-wing TV commenters (pretend-journalists) today call a right-wing uprising that should be put down at all costs. The current land conflict in Nevada extends back to this event in 1864 and how the territory of Nevada became a state in order to push through a political agenda to create a majority vote. I have said numerous times, if you want the truth, just follow the money.


Sorry, but to all the left-wing commentators who call Bundy a tax-cheat and an outlaw, be careful of what you speak for the Supreme Court has made it clear in 1845 that the Constitution forbids the federal rangers to be out there to begin with for the Feds could not retain ownership of the territory and simultaneously grant state sovereignty. At the very minimum, it became state land – not federal.

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[link to www.lasvegassun.com]

The timelines don’t line up: Bundy’s battle with the BLM started in 1993 when he stopped paying his grazing fees, 18 years before anyone talked about putting Chinese money into the Nevada desert for renewable energy. Talk about the Chinese solar project started in 2011 and ended in 2013. And the Bundy-BLM confrontation came this month, long after the solar project died.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57268489


The blm arbitrarily cut Bundy's grazing allotment from 900 cattle to 150. The blm continued to charge him for 900 cattle even though he could only graze 150.

this is a taking of property rights. Only a brain dead sheeple can't understand why this is wrong.

There are other issues here than grazing rights. Only a brain dead heavily propagandized statist sheep can't recognize that.
 Quoting: s. d. butler




let me ask, does Bundy OWN this disputed land ? And by that I mean does HE HOLD title to it ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57256375


HE HOLDS GRAZING AND WATERING RIGHTS THAT PREDATE THE BLM BY DECADES.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56678328


This is a good article about it all

ruthfullyyours.com/2014/04/20/edward-cline-cliven-bundys-just​ifiable-defiance-part-one/
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