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Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition

 
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(USA Today) – The Pentagon plans to destroy more than $1 billion worth of ammunition although some of those bullets and missiles could still be used by troops, according to the Pentagon and congressional sources.

It’s impossible to know what portion of the arsenal slated for destruction — valued at $1.2 billion by the Pentagon — remains viable because the Defense Department’s inventory systems can’t share data effectively, according to a Government Accountability Office report obtained by USA TODAY.

The result: potential waste of unknown value.

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“There is a huge opportunity to save millions, if not billions of dollars if the (Pentagon) can make some common-sense improvements to how it manages ammunition,” said Sen. Tom Carper, D-Del., and chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. “Despite years of effort, the Army, Navy and Air Force still don’t have an efficient process for doing something as basic as sharing excess bullets. This Government Accountability Office (GAO) report clearly shows that our military’s antiquated systems lead to millions of dollars in wasteful ammunition purchases.”

The Army and Pentagon, in a statement, acknowledged “the need to automate the process” and will make it a priority in future budgets. In all, the Pentagon manages a stockpile of conventional ammunition worth $70 billion.

The effect of inaccurate accounting of ammunition for troops at war was outside the scope of the study. However, there were limited supplies at times of .50-caliber machine gun and 9mm handgun ammunition at the height of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a senior military officer who spoke on condition of anonymity to talk about the issue.
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 Quoting: Prizefighter Inferno


Meanwhile... DHS purchases 2.6 billion rounds of ammunition.

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE??
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
Can't they use it up in training or something wtf?
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Can't you see the obvious? Report the ammo destroyed then there are no strings attached to it when it is supplied to some group to actually use it.

The wars, right now, are based on deception. Well, actually they always have been, but especially now.....nobody is going to destroy ammunition.
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04/28/2014 10:12 AM
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why is this important?
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And now we know why bulgaria is such a mess.
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and usa is the heaven on earth lmao
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04/28/2014 10:19 AM
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
There is a 0% chance that this ammo is actually going to be destroyed.
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04/28/2014 10:53 AM
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There is a 0% chance that this ammo is actually going to be destroyed.
 Quoting: pfft 49938055


Going to re-supply the brotherhood, I see.
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04/28/2014 10:58 AM
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It will show up later in some other country being used against our own troops!

That's doom!
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.
... like fast and furious of which holder knows nothing about ...
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04/28/2014 11:09 AM
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Destroy $1 of ammunition its a waste, destroy a billion dollars of ammunition its a statistic! (statistical data that can't be shared effectively)wtf
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04/28/2014 11:36 AM
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What do you want to bet that is all the ammo the government purchased off the consumer markets to create the ammo shortages we saw?? To cripple private gun owners. I will bet you $100 it is.

Would love to get a listing of this ammo.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 56652446


Exactly.

The BIGGEST REASONS for destroying ammo is to keep it from us.

Also so the bastards get paid to make more.

Same Bullshit, different day. Any that isn't destroyed will be sold to our enemies or held by DHS to shoot us.

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04/28/2014 11:56 AM
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WTF?
give it to israel why throw ?
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04/28/2014 12:00 PM
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What if C.A.T really spelled Dog?
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04/28/2014 12:09 PM
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holder
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04/28/2014 12:17 PM
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In 2005 Obama was one of the senators that helped disarm the Ukraine.

If you couple it with the hundreds of military brass they have sacked, the effective and proven weapons programs they are shutting down (A-10, Cruise missiles, hellfire missiles, etc) it seems a little too familiar.

You've read the same stories I have ~ his history is hidden, some believe he's a foreign agent ~ is this another step in the plan to collapse and invade the US?


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 Quoting: Rufus Juice 47300304


He is an Arab. He's NOT BLACK! His mother was a white commie & his father was Arabic. The sheeple still believe he's black because the MSM says so.sheeplebah "Tell a lie long enough & it becomes the truth". Wake up sheep! He's an Arab & his job is to destroy the USA from within. sheep
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04/28/2014 12:22 PM
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Here's a novel idea....
Put the ammo on the surplus market and actually make some of OUR money back. If it absolutely needs to be destroyed, some independent oversite needs to be in place so Barry's Buddies don't get their paws on it. This should cost a good half billion to "destroy" a billion in ammo, good management on their part.
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04/28/2014 12:24 PM
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My husband worked on a military base for many years and they often would "destroy" surplus items that they no longer wanted to store... but what REALLY happened was the guys would take most of the stuff home. Why should they destroy a bunch of batteries and blank CDs that are perfectly fine to use? It is a waste of taxpayer money either way, but it happens all the time.
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WTF?
give it to israel why throw ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 10209760


You get enough from us to buy shiny new ammo. Quit begging.
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04/28/2014 12:26 PM
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
There is a 0% chance that this ammo is actually going to be destroyed.
 Quoting: pfft 49938055


Going to re-supply the brotherhood, I see.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28512445


With a CYA story to boot.
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04/28/2014 01:07 PM
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
There is a 0% chance that this ammo is actually going to be destroyed.
 Quoting: pfft 49938055


It will end up with our most super, super allies who will only charge the going rate for hazardous waste disposal.
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04/28/2014 01:15 PM
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
After 12 years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is no way this ammunition is obsolete. It's either going to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt or to the Ukraine.
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
Can't they use it up in training or something wtf?
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Can't you see the obvious? Report the ammo destroyed then there are no strings attached to it when it is supplied to some group to actually use it.

The wars, right now, are based on deception. Well, actually they always have been, but especially now.....nobody is going to destroy ammunition.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 33777773


So we will be eating $1B in lead? Maybe the New Black Panthers will serve it to us in the FEMA CAMP chow line.
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04/28/2014 02:19 PM
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Hey, Inferno! Long time no see!
Good thread :)
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04/28/2014 02:30 PM
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After 12 years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is no way this ammunition is obsolete. It's either going to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt or to the Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57454094


You're missing another option. Domestic is just as likely. BLM might needs something heavier.
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
After 12 years of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, there is no way this ammunition is obsolete. It's either going to the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt or to the Ukraine.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57454094


You're missing another option. Domestic is just as likely. BLM might needs something heavier.
 Quoting: asd 49938055


And immediately available.
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04/28/2014 02:32 PM
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
BS.

They're shipping it to Oklahoma where gold and silver is legal tender.

Then they bargain with the foreigners.

Coming to a war theatre near you... US-looking ammunition.
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
(USA Today) – The Pentagon plans to destroy more than $1 billion worth of ammunition although some of those bullets and missiles could still be used by troops, according to the Pentagon and congressional sources.

It’s impossible to know what portion of the arsenal slated for destruction — valued at $1.2 billion by the Pentagon — remains viable because the Defense Department’s inventory systems can’t share data effectively, according to a Government Accountability Office report obtained by USA TODAY.

The result: potential waste of unknown value.

FAX BLAST SPECIAL: Take Action! Shock the Washington establishment by participating in the “No More Red Ink” campaign. Fax Blast all 535 members of Congress demanding they vote “NO!” on increasing taxes and out of control spending.

“There is a huge opportunity to save millions, if not billions of dollars if the (Pentagon) can make some common-sense improvements to how it manages ammunition,” said Sen. Tom Carper, D-Del., and chairman of the Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee. “Despite years of effort, the Army, Navy and Air Force still don’t have an efficient process for doing something as basic as sharing excess bullets. This Government Accountability Office (GAO) report clearly shows that our military’s antiquated systems lead to millions of dollars in wasteful ammunition purchases.”

The Army and Pentagon, in a statement, acknowledged “the need to automate the process” and will make it a priority in future budgets. In all, the Pentagon manages a stockpile of conventional ammunition worth $70 billion.

The effect of inaccurate accounting of ammunition for troops at war was outside the scope of the study. However, there were limited supplies at times of .50-caliber machine gun and 9mm handgun ammunition at the height of the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a senior military officer who spoke on condition of anonymity to talk about the issue.
- See more at: [link to www.teaparty.org]
 Quoting: Prizefighter Inferno


Since all this is purchased with taxpayer money, maybe the US taxpayer should have a say in the matter. As a taxpayer, I want a portion of this unused ammo to be delivered to me so that I can use it as I see fit...
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04/28/2014 03:31 PM
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It is no wonder the US is 17 trillion dollars in debt. The amount of waste is incredible.
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
lol

got some ocean front property
to sell ya if you buy this

this is exactly how the US Gov writes
terrorist supplies off it's books
when they don't want to be linked
to terrorism in the media
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
In other words, someone found a pallet of ammunition from WWII 5 years ago. They finally got around to slating it for destruction and estimated the value based on the old "street value" x 10,000 method. (Which handily covers the recent billion+ dollars transferred to a slush fund for "black operations".)

New day, same game.
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Re: Pentagon to destroy $1billion in ammunition
In other words, someone found a pallet of ammunition from WWII 5 years ago. They finally got around to slating it for destruction and estimated the value based on the old "street value" x 10,000 method. (Which handily covers the recent billion+ dollars transferred to a slush fund for "black operations".)

New day, same game.
 Quoting: Rabid Wolf


sorry to inform
but 90% of leftover ammo from WW2
was used in Korea
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Drop em on Ukraine I'm sure they need the help, unless they hit someone on the head that is.
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They're not destroying it. They're shipping it to the ghetto for safe keeping.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57443824


if you are caught red handed selling ammunition to your coup, then just find some free ammo from your your troops, tell everyone we are shipping them to be destroyed. end up in ukraine to arm paid trolls who then start ww3

sub Uk for syria - same result





GLP