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Florida Makes Off-Grid Living Illegal – Mandates All Homes Must Be Connected To An Electricity Grid

 
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i'm so glad i'm not a shtf guy or someone thats into self sufficiency in Florida.

It’s no secret that an opposition to sustainable living exists. Earlier this year, Texas state brought several SWAT teams to a sustainable community and threatened to shut it down. Each one of the community members were initially handcuffed at gunpoint. It was called “The Garden of Eden Community,” and was totally self sustainable. You can read more about that here.

This time, it’s Robin Speronis that’s come under fire. She lives off the grid in Florida, completely independent of the city’s water and electric system. A few weeks ago, officials ruled her off-grid home illegal. Officials cited the International Property Maintenance Code, which mandates that homes be connected to an electricity grid and a running water source. That’s just like saying our dependency on corporations isn’t even a choice. The battle to live without most utilities has been ongoing for Robin, the self-sufficient woman has lived for more than a year and a half using solar energy, a propane camping stove and rain water.

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I think you might be wrong. The owner of this forum says he is off grid and I believe he lives in Florida. I could be wrong but I think that is what he said.

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just because your hooked to the grid does not mean you have to use it excess energy is pumped back in the the grid and they have to pay you for it
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Easy solution - have a meter hooked up and to run a 25 watt light bulb 24/7.
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I think you might be wrong. The owner of this forum says he is off grid and I believe he lives in Florida. I could be wrong but I think that is what he said.

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just because he lives off the gris doesn't mean he is allowed. just means they have not got around to him yet or they dont know about him.
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just because your hooked to the grid does not mean you have to use it excess energy is pumped back in the the grid and they have to pay you for it
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thats bad! gives you a sence of false sense of security. if there is a blackout your power goes to. its a "safety thing". also its 240v and not 12v with is what you want fpr off the grid. there are reasons why people want to be off the grid. shtf scenario to name just one.
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this is an illegal piece of legislation.
you cannot mandate people use
electricity, goes against the Bill
of Rights.
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This couldn't be true
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just because your hooked to the grid does not mean you have to use it excess energy is pumped back in the the grid and they have to pay you for it
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If you have an off grid solar array that powers everything, why would you need to even have the cable running in?
I would get my cable removed the next day if I had a full off grid solar set up with batteries and inverters.
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this is an illegal piece of legislation.
you cannot mandate people use
electricity, goes against the Bill
of Rights.
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But is it the first time they did something illegal?
Of course not.
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no more tent cities in FL

that is probably the reason for this.
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no more tent cities in FL

that is probably the reason for this.
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What about people with full off grid solar setups?
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What about people with full off grid solar setups?
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the last congress person to stand up
for solar energy was Gabby Giffords

we saw what happened to her in Phoenix

Solar is not popular with energy conglomerates
these days

George Soros spent millions pushing through
the Progress Energy and Duke Power merger
which became the largest energy conglomerate
in the US.

since they spent so much in making it happen,
they are not going to let you out of not
paying them their profits.

we use to have such a thing as anti-monopoly
laws, guess those don't exist anymore since
the energy companies own the politicians
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What about people with full off grid solar setups?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57313683


the last congress person to stand up
for solar energy was Gabby Giffords

we saw what happened to her in Phoenix

Solar is not popular with energy conglomerates
these days

George Soros spent millions pushing through
the Progress Energy and Duke Power merger
which became the largest energy conglomerate
in the US.

since they spent so much in making it happen,
they are not going to let you out of not
paying them their profits.

we use to have such a thing as anti-monopoly
laws, guess those don't exist anymore since
the energy companies own the politicians
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Ever hear of "Ma Bell"? This is what AT&T used to be, "The Bell Telephone Company", and it was a true monopoly for decades, enforced by the US gov. No other company could be in the phone business. It was against the LAW.

This is during the time of your "anti-monopoly" laws.
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wow!!

pin!
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What about people with full off grid solar setups?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57313683


the last congress person to stand up
for solar energy was Gabby Giffords

we saw what happened to her in Phoenix

Solar is not popular with energy conglomerates
these days

George Soros spent millions pushing through
the Progress Energy and Duke Power merger
which became the largest energy conglomerate
in the US.

since they spent so much in making it happen,
they are not going to let you out of not
paying them their profits.

we use to have such a thing as anti-monopoly
laws, guess those don't exist anymore since
the energy companies own the politicians
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57456437


bump
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How much more before people accept that the Right Wing Conservative agenda is a Fascist Police State agenda with Neighbors monitoring and snitching on each other.
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fuck florida
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just because your hooked to the grid does not mean you have to use it excess energy is pumped back in the the grid and they have to pay you for it
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thats bad! gives you a sence of false sense of security. if there is a blackout your power goes to. its a "safety thing". also its 240v and not 12v with is what you want fpr off the grid. there are reasons why people want to be off the grid. shtf scenario to name just one.
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Actually, any serious person wanting to live off the grid, want a 24v or even a 48v DC grid. Anything else is inadequate for anything but lighting in the long run.

I'm no prepper, but I do have a cabin without electricity, and I want to be able to stay there for long periods of time, even in the wintertime.

Belive me when I say that 12v preppers are amateurs...
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The building code Nazi's have been around for a while - not really breaking news. This is going on everywhere not just Florida. There are very few counties left with no building codes for those who are serious about going off-grid. I think Texas and Colorado have a few of those counties.
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How much more before people accept that the Right Wing Conservative agenda is a Fascist Police State agenda with Neighbors monitoring and snitching on each other.
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Um, we already have that under the current "system"...

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That would not go over well in Ohio and Pennsylvania. Anyway, it's silly to require an electricity connection.
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Easy solution - have a meter hooked up and to run a 25 watt light bulb 24/7.
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That's a pretty good idea, actually...

Why the hell does the State thinks it needs to dictate the living standards of free people? If I wanted to live in a teepee or tent on my property and am not bothering anyone, why is this their problem? This is insanity.

rant
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bump
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The whole point is, when the Gov' decides to go all out NWO. Decides on martial law. Decides it's time to begin rounding up people for internment, torture and death camps, it wants capacity to shout down everything, to everyone. If you think that's a joke, go have a look at some of the laws your Gov' is making.
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The whole point is, when the Gov' decides to go all out NWO. Decides on martial law. Decides it's time to begin rounding up people for internment, torture and death camps, it wants capacity to shout down everything, to everyone. If you think that's a joke, go have a look at some of the laws your Gov' is making.
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hf yup
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Yeah, cauz if you don't have an address how they gonna round you up?
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lol

we are free citizens and will not be bullied

Tell them no people------
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You build underground.

You build in the bush.

It is hard to do without someone noticing it's construction because they will hear any power equipment you use.

There is a reason it says in the bible that people hid themselves under the ground.

Because they will be fleeing the societal collapse that is going to occur in the next 12-15 months.

Remember from the collapse will come two groups.

PREDATOR GANGS, and DEFENSE COLLECTIVES.

Lone Wolf stockpilers will be nothing more than grocery stores for the predator gangs when 50 of them rush your house - their gonna TAKE YOUR SHIT.

So now is your window.

If you have a hidden underground anything in the bush 5 clicks it's pretty hard for anyone to take it because thye cannot find it
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Use this website to pick a location

[link to www.flashearth.com]

It has like 8 different map sources so you can get very high resolution maps of very remote regions.

Remember this is HARD. Your with the bugs and the alligators etc.

But if you can pull it off you will be safe
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What they gonna do about stilts vile?





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