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Nuclear Hotseat: Killer Points on Fukushima's Coverup - UPDATE PAGE 8

 
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 Quoting: Chugiakian


So, Lets come back to this video…….

This is profound. The 'hot particle' they found in the vacuum cleaner bag tested @ 40,000,000,000,000,000,000 bq/kg!
 Quoting: Chugiakian


But there is no One Kg inside of "this Vacuum Cleaner,
also not in 10, 100, 1000, or even one hundred Thousand!

We have ca. 75.000.000 Vacuum Cleaner in Japan.

"Everything is Poison" and you use your Pseudo-Interpretation to create Fear!
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@ Op,
i quoted "North Slope" the whole Time,
but thank you that you look for it, finally Flower
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805333


Anon Coward… Number 333???

Another Change????

well, listen.
I read the North Slope news piece, before I posted, this is a one off from the first video I posted.

I take no sympathy for you.
I pray that you will decide for yourself, to change your ways.

Quit Shillin, and Quit pokin at the news articles as propaganda, when the only one putting out propaganda are the Government and the Shills.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


BTW, your hanging on to the article, as you did, points out your agenda. Trying to dis-credit the article…..Where you were pointing to one part as if it was saying that Radiation was harmless.
QUIT DEFENDING TEPCO!
Chugiakian
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Just what GLP needs, another Fukushima fukwit.
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@ Op,
i quoted "North Slope" the whole Time,
but thank you that you look for it, finally Flower
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57805333


Anon Coward… Number 333???

Another Change????

well, listen.
I read the North Slope news piece, before I posted, this is a one off from the first video I posted.

I take no sympathy for you.
I pray that you will decide for yourself, to change your ways.

Quit Shillin, and Quit pokin at the news articles as propaganda, when the only one putting out propaganda are the Government and the Shills.
 Quoting: Chugiakian


I quoted North Slope even before created this Thread,
just look inside of your linked Postings.

You must be very strange,
but someone who believe that Israel created the Tsunami must be strange lol
Citizenperth

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Just what GLP needs, another Fukushima fukwit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57830847


like you?

nah.....

whose pancreas are you squeezing next?

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Just what GLP needs, another Fukushima fukwit.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57830847


like you?

nah.....

whose pancreas are you squeezing next?
 Quoting: Citizenperth


This Posting was not made by me but i would
squezze your Pancreas too Rofl


Anyway, you are not the Topic here!
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Just for consideration and the purpose of Information:

Ever since the Fukushima accident resulted in traces of Plutonium isotopes found outside the site’s property boundary at F. Daiichi, Arnie Gundersen has been spouting that hot particles were expunged and could be found far, far away. In October of 2011, a civil engineer from Massachusetts, Marco Kaltofen, posted the claim that he had found Fukushima hot particles in American soils and in various dust filters from Japan. (3) Kaltofen has been trying to use his findings to get a PhD, but has not been successful. Regardless, Gundersen has recently posted a new Fairewinds video featuring Kaltofen called “The Hottest Particle”, (4) and makes two preposterous claims. First during the introduction, Gundersen says if it was produced in Japan “the State Secrets Law would likely prevent us from issuing this video.” Second at the end of the video, Gundersen says “Fairewinds has long said that there will be significant increases in cancer in Japan as a result of the Fukushima Daiichi accident, and this video describing just one hot particle confirms our worst fears.”

In the first case, Japan’s new secrecy law would not prevent the video from being disseminated.

There are a myriad of antinuclear websites in Japan (not to mention the majority of the popular Press) that have gone further over the edge that this convoluted video. Perhaps the most bizarre claim was made by a Tokyo professor who claimed the aftershocks at F. Daiichi in 2011 were not aftershocks at all.

He claimed they were really hydro-volcanic explosions deep in the earth caused by molten Fukushima cores burning their way into underground aquifers, and Tokyo was covering it up. There have been a number of other such preposterous claims released to the Japanese internet since then, all of which are at least as provocative as Gundersen’s hot particle fantasy, and none of them were stopped by Tokyo!

Besides, the only aspect of nuclear power plants which seems applicable to the secrecy law would be plant security measures to stop terrorists and such.

Gundersen is actually making a veiled appeal to common conspiracy theory, and does no more than cement this observer’s view that he is nothing less than a street corner prophet.

The second claim of verification of a future cancer epidemic in Japan deserves a deeper look.

To begin, Gundersen’s “expert”, Marco Kaltofen, changes the definition of hot particle to fit his agenda. He defines them as highly radioactive dust particles from a nuclear accident.

He adds that if they are carried by the air, they must be included in internal exposure estimates, even if they are not ingested. The “hottest particle” he focusses on is not a fragment caused by an explosion of any kind.

He found a clump of dust inside a vacuum cleaner bag sent to him from a home about 460 kilometers southwest of F. Daiichi. Kaltofen says this one glob is so radioactive that the full bag registered 300 Becquerels of activity. By using a crude partitioning methodology and an Exacto-knife, he found the dust clump which he says measured so highly that if there were a kilogram of it, the activity would be 40 million-trillion Becquerels. He says the dust clump by itself has a 70% chance of killing a person ingesting it.


Read it as a whole: [link to www.hiroshimasyndrome.com]
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Atom-Boy by User number: ignore:

ps: not a quote.. a suggestion, dipshit

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Utter Baloney.

Pure Cs137 only has 3.2 TeraBQ/gm, or 3.2X10^15 Bq/Kg.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

The magical substance in the vacuum cleaner would have to be 10,000 times more radioactive than pure Cs 137.

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Utter Baloney.

Pure Cs137 only has 3.2 TeraBQ/gm, or 3.2X10^15 Bq/Kg.
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Jackson49


Let’s face it, the dust clump was probably squeezed together by numerous vacuuming operations over a period of weeks and concentrated by the process itself. For all we know, the clump was compacted by Kaltofen’s makeshift Exacto-knife procedure. In addition, the huge activity number cited by Kaltofen (4X1019 Becquerels) is an enormous extrapolation.

There would have to be an entire kilogram of the stuff to reach that huge activity level, however it is but one tiny glob. What the dust clump itself has for specific activity is not stated. Clearly, Kaltofen uses the all-too-routine posting of a huge, (in this case) concocted number to make it seem extremely significant.

No wonder he has not been granted a PhD in the last three years! This is a clear case of pseudo-science.

[link to www.hiroshimasyndrome.com]

So Desu!
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This thread is entertaining in the throes of doom. Even a Japanese shill is on stage! I love this post :)
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This thread is entertaining in the throes of doom. Even a Japanese shill is on stage! I love this post :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28053131


lovethispost


Chugiakian has earned a new TEPCO friend.. I LOVE IT! Kinda like a badge really... the more that know, the more that know.... Not sure they want rampant death though.. maybe they still pissed after WWII.. killing their own?... they did love the Kamikazes.....

citz_TEPCO1

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This thread is entertaining in the throes of doom. Even a Japanese shill is on stage! I love this post :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28053131


People like you need us, the same like you need People under your Feet
because you are a poor minded Person, like that Blubberploerp
who is reporting "a Banana" as abusive (what a true Troll)
but try to call other People out in every single Thread!

Rofl We should buy Glp and clean this Site from Stupidity, Fashism,
Tolitarism and A..hole! Rofl
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This thread is entertaining in the throes of doom. Even a Japanese shill is on stage! I love this post :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28053131


People like you need us, the same like you need People under your Feet
because you are a poor minded Person, like that Blubberploerp
who is reporting "a Banana" as abusive (what a true Troll)
but try to call other People out in every single Thread!

Rofl We should buy Glp and clean this Site from Stupidity, Fashism,
Tolitarism and A..hole! Rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


yer just pissed cause you were caught, I called you out, and you got caught again.... I do it without blinking when you make threats.... recorded and reported elsewhere.. you know where... you should know that by now.....


what is a Blubberploerp?

a_cream

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This thread is entertaining in the throes of doom. Even a Japanese shill is on stage! I love this post :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28053131


People like you need us, the same like you need People under your Feet
because you are a poor minded Person, like that Blubberploerp
who is reporting "a Banana" as abusive (what a true Troll)
but try to call other People out in every single Thread!

Rofl We should buy Glp and clean this Site from Stupidity, Fashism,
Tolitarism and A..hole! Rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


yer just pissed cause you were caught, I called you out, and you got caught again.... I do it without blinking when you make threats.... recorded and reported elsewhere.. you know where... you should know that by now.....


what is a Blubberploerp?

:a_cream:
 Quoting: Citizenperth


lol you are such a Clown and your Methods reminds of the old Days
of the Soviet Time!

But you cant win, Som of a dancing Banana!
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This thread is entertaining in the throes of doom. Even a Japanese shill is on stage! I love this post :)
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 28053131


People like you need us, the same like you need People under your Feet
because you are a poor minded Person, like that Blubberploerp
who is reporting "a Banana" as abusive (what a true Troll)
but try to call other People out in every single Thread!

Rofl We should buy Glp and clean this Site from Stupidity, Fashism,
Tolitarism and A..hole! Rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


yer just pissed cause you were caught, I called you out, and you got caught again.... I do it without blinking when you make threats.... recorded and reported elsewhere.. you know where... you should know that by now.....


what is a Blubberploerp?

a_cream
 Quoting: Citizenperth


lol you are such a Clown and your Methods reminds of the old Days
of the Soviet Time!

But you cant win, Som of a dancing Banana!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


but did the BUTTHurt cream help?

... really important when you are entirely irradiated ;)

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Also so typical, since Months i don't write anything in Blubberploerps Threads and he know it, so he is coming here and continued with his Stalking!

What a true A..hole and Mf!

So, he said he is calling other People out and when they answer
he report it to make his Anus shine, what a poor minded and abusive Ah.!
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dead How this is "Abusive"?
Regarding to the Words he use?
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I love Arnie Gunderson. He's bad ass!

fairewinds
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I love Arnie Gunderson. He's bad ass!

fairewinds
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not as hard as he could be, but he and Margie are cool, I get to talk with her a little more as she doesn't travel so often
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Also so typical, since Months i don't write anything in Blubberploerps Threads and he know it, so he is coming here and continued with his Stalking!

What a true A..hole and Mf!

So, he said he is calling other People out and when they answer
he report it to make his Anus shine, what a poor minded and abusive Ah.!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


who is this "Blubberploerp" you speak of? really.. he probably needs more Karma ;)

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I love Arnie Gunderson. He's bad ass!

:fairewinds:
 Quoting: Bambi2U


You lost your Father when you was a Child?

He is playing the Role he was designed for very well.

Flower
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I love Arnie Gunderson. He's bad ass!

:fairewinds:
 Quoting: Bambi2U


You lost your Father when you was a Child?

He is playing the Role he was designed for very well.

Flower
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


Arnie Gundersen, Fraudulent Fabricator of Fukushima Radiation Hysteria

[link to educate-yourself.org]
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I love Arnie Gunderson. He's bad ass!

fairewinds
 Quoting: Bambi2U


You lost your Father when you was a Child?

He is playing the Role he was designed for very well.

Flower
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


Arnie Gundersen, Fraudulent Fabricator of Fukushima Radiation Hysteria

[link to educate-yourself.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


BAHAHAHAH!!!!!! I won't bother with the whole Bullshit link... but Americium? It was found, as was Pu.... I know this, you know this .... so the liar calling out a liar is a liar.... to fast for you numb nut?

think so..... get back to me and I'll debunk all of your shit.....
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Actually he wrote:
The Fukushima fallout is notable for what it doesn’t contain. Some very nasty contaminants like strontium-90, americium-241, and various plutonium isotopes are all absent in any significant quantity because the concrete vessels around the reactors appear to be largely intact. In Chernobyl, the explosion and subsequent fire spewed these extremely dangerous isotopes far and wide.
[link to educate-yourself.org]

But we know already that you can't read Rofl
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lively discussion tonight…

Guess we should all embrace Nuclear as being clean and safe then.
Lets all get a couple of barrels of this waste, and store it in our own house, if it is that safe.


Go ahead Anon Cowards…… please, help yourself, you set a good example and store some…. Then PM us, with pictures of when you have it there.
I dare you to…. I double Dare you… I double Dog Dare you to!
Bet you won't.


I CALL BS!
you Hypocrites!


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@ Op.,
exactly your Arguments are the real Shillism
and Reason Nr. One why we lost the discussion about Nuclear Power
after chernobyl!
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@ Op.,
exactly your Arguments are the real Shillism
and Reason Nr. One why we lost the discussion about Nuclear Power
after chernobyl!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


lolatuloosa

citz_bat_tepco

citz_tepcofag
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Actually he wrote:
The Fukushima fallout is notable for what it doesn’t contain. Some very nasty contaminants like strontium-90, americium-241, and various plutonium isotopes are all absent in any significant quantity because the concrete vessels around the reactors appear to be largely intact. In Chernobyl, the explosion and subsequent fire spewed these extremely dangerous isotopes far and wide.
[link to educate-yourself.org]

But we know already that you can't read Rofl
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


@ Op.,
exactly your Arguments are the real Shillism
and Reason Nr. One why we lost the discussion about Nuclear Power
after chernobyl!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


lolatu
 Quoting: Citizenperth


Rofl

you soooooo stupid piece of "Streetdirt"!
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@ Op.,
exactly your Arguments are the real Shillism
and Reason Nr. One why we lost the discussion about Nuclear Power
after chernobyl!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 57835061


lolatuloosa

citz_bat_tepco

citz_tepcofag
 Quoting: Citizenperth


laugh
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